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Old 04-05-2009, 08:54 AM   #1
 
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Default L'Oreal Everpure removes cones....

I put some serum in my hair yesterday and still had some left on my hands. I figured I'd try a little experiment and used my VO5 kiwi lime condish to wash my hands - to see if it would remove the cones. Of course, it did not.

So, I grabbed my Everpure 'poo and used that. Completely removed the cones from my hands. Yay! I used Biolage Smoothing serum - which has:

Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Caprylic/Capric Triglycerides, Dimethiconol, Perfume (Fragrance), Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil, Hexyl Cinnamal, Coumarin, Linalool, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Hydroxycitronellal, Amyl Cinnamal, Geraniol, Alpha Isomethyl Ionone, Isoeugenol, Benzyl Benzoate, Cinnamyl Alcohol, Citral, Citronellol

So, in case you were thinking you'd HAVE to use a sulfate shampoo to remove 'cones, the sulfate free Everpure did a good job of removing it from my hands. If it works on your hands, it should work in your hair, right?
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Can you post the ingredients for the Everpure Poo???

Cyclopentasiloxane


this will need a sulphate to remove it will build up on your hair over time it's one of the WORST. Dimethicone will need a Low Poo to remove

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlre...p-on-silicones
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Everpure - smoothing shampoo - this is the one I used. Here are the ingredients from drustore.com

Aqua/Water/Eau, Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate, Sodium Lauryl Sulfoacetate, Disodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Glycol Distearate, Divinyldimethicone/Dimethicone Copolymer, Glycereth 26, Decyl Glucoside, Parfum/Fragrance, Polyquaternium 7, PPG 5 Ceteth 20, Amodimethicone, Polyquaternium 10, Methylparaben, PEG 55 Propylene Glycol Oceate, Propylene Glycol, Carbomer, C11 15 Pareth 7, Benzophenone 3, Benzyl Salicylate, Hexyl Cinnamal, Glycerin Trideceth 12, Laureth 9, C12 13 Pareth 23, Linalool, Tocopherol, C12 13 Pareth 3, Limonene, Benzyl Alcohol, Juniperus Communis Fruit Oil, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Rosmarinus Officinalis Oil (Rosemary), Methylisothiazolinone, Sodium Hydroxide, Citric Acid
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Can you post the ingredients for the Everpure Poo???

Cyclopentasiloxane

this will need a sulphate to remove it will build up on your hair over time it's one of the WORST.

Dimethicone will need a Low Poo to remove

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlre...p-on-silicones
See my signature line. You don't need a sulfate to remove such.
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Old 04-05-2009, 01:32 PM   #5
 
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See my signature line. You don't need a sulfate to remove such.
Sorry to guano but...

What do you use instead of a sulfate? Like, a low poo, or a baking soda rinse? Just wondering, because I like to use silicones, but I'm not a fan of sulfates.
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See my signature line. You don't need a sulfate to remove such.
Sorry to guano but...

What do you use instead of a sulfate? Like, a low poo, or a baking soda rinse? Just wondering, because I like to use silicones, but I'm not a fan of sulfates.
Gentle surfactants in shampoos:

Apricotamidopropyl Betaine
Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine
Sodium C14-16 Sarcosinate
Cocamidopropylamine Oxide
Cocamidopropyl Betaineamide MEA Chloride
Ammonium Cocoyl Isethionate
Sodium cocoyl sarcosinate
Sodium lauryl sulfoacetate
Sodium xylenesulfonate
Sodium methyl cocoyl taurate
Disodium laureth sulfosuccinate
Cocamidopropyl betaine
Coco betaine
Cocoamphoacetate
Cocoamphodipropionate
Disodium cocoamphodiacetate
Disodium cocoamphodipropionate
Lauroamphoacetate
Sodium cocoyl isethionate
Decyl glucoside

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See my signature line. You don't need a sulfate to remove such.
Sorry to guano but...

What do you use instead of a sulfate? Like, a low poo, or a baking soda rinse? Just wondering, because I like to use silicones, but I'm not a fan of sulfates.
Gentle surfactants in shampoos:

Apricotamidopropyl Betaine
Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine
Sodium C14-16 Sarcosinate
Cocamidopropylamine Oxide
Cocamidopropyl Betaineamide MEA Chloride
Ammonium Cocoyl Isethionate
Sodium cocoyl sarcosinate
Sodium lauryl sulfoacetate
Sodium xylenesulfonate
Sodium methyl cocoyl taurate
Disodium laureth sulfosuccinate
Cocamidopropyl betaine
Coco betaine
Cocoamphoacetate
Cocoamphodipropionate
Disodium cocoamphodiacetate
Disodium cocoamphodipropionate
Lauroamphoacetate
Sodium cocoyl isethionate
Decyl glucoside

This explains why the Everpure will remove silicones! Thanks! Does anyone know of any conditioners that will remove sulfates?
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Exclamation Cyclomethicone IS cyclopentasiloxane???????????

LazyLoops your siggie is the same article that I linked for tinah This thread Cyclomethicone Post #10 by SwirlyCurlyChemist

Cyclomethicone IS cyclopentasiloxane, and also cyclotetrasiloxane (just a smaller molecule). It's just another name for the same thing! Neither will build up on your hair, although they are not water soluble. The reason for this is that they evaporate. They do not remain on your hair. You need nothing to remove them because they do not remain on your hair. I know I have addressed this in an article, but it is still a huge point of confusion for folks.

The reason some find it makes their hair feel bad is that when it evaporates it can make your hair a tad dry and maybe mess with your cuticle layer a bit, just like alcohols that evaporate.

Also, according to all the research I have seen, all of the silicones can be removed just as efficiently by products containing cocamidopropyl betaine or coco betaine as by SLS or SLES.


I know so many of us have thought the the XANE is EVIL, this is brand new to me!
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Between this and the other thread that got revived, I've learned a lot today! Thanks!
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Between this and the other thread that got revived, I've learned a lot today! Thanks!
YOU AND ME BOTH!!!!! Whenever I saw XANE I would FREAK! It's good to know it won't kill me in my sleep or anything
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Between this and the other thread that got revived, I've learned a lot today! Thanks!
YOU AND ME BOTH!!!!! Whenever I saw XANE I would FREAK! It's good to know it won't kill me in my sleep or anything
Make that 3 of us. I may not use the Xane cones but I might start using my Hoity Toity condish with Dimethicone a little more frequently!
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