Falling Curls

I have been doing CG since last October and am still figuring it out. My hair is 2C (ish) when styled and extremely fine.

My problem is that the curls fall out within hours. My hair is so fine that it doesn't hold the curls very well. Even a few hours after styling, the curls have gone much straighter there isn't much I can do other than starting over.

I have been styling with Knot Today, KCCC, BRHG, and then I scrunch on the Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel once dried until crunch is gone.

Does anyone have any advice on how to make the curls stay??
My hair is very fine, too. I stopped using gel when I went with more natural products last Sept--had to add it this winter because the cold, dry weather pulled them out. Since you're using products with a lot of hold, I'm thinking moisture??? I don't use KCKT because it's not moisturizing enough for me. You don't say what you do for cleansing. I found that natural soap bars, instead of cowash, tightened my curls and added volume.

The other thing is diffusing or the hard bonnet dryer that's being talked about to set the curls better?


Those are my ideas. I'll be interested in what advice you get.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
thanks! I would have never thought about moisture being an issue.

I know nothing about soap bars! I have been using a co-wash conditioner- right now it's been the Trader Joe's Tea Tree Jingle.

And diffusing.
Maybe omit the LA Natural gel? On me, putting wet gel on over it would undo the hold I got from BRHG. I scrunch it out dry usually, only using the tiniest smidge of KBB hair cream or JCNS - nothing wet - if I simply can't get it to scrunch out dry. If I've used a leave-in under BRHG, I usually don't need anything, though.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
thanks! I would have never thought about moisture being an issue.

I know nothing about soap bars! I have been using a co-wash conditioner- right now it's been the Trader Joe's Tea Tree Jingle.

And diffusing.
Originally Posted by emilyo
My hair is fine and low porosity. The Trader Joe's conditioners I used last year did nothing for me.

Here's a tread about the soap/shampoo bars.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
My curls tend to fall and lose definition if I've over-conditioned or have used super-moisturizing conditioners, treatments or styling products.
Just my two cents.
Hair Type: 3A/3B; natural color; mid-back length.
Shampoo: Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus (2 - 3 times/week)
Fave Rinse-Out Conditioners: HE Hello Hydration; Yes to Blueberries; GVP Conditioning Balm;
Styling Routine: Squish-scrunch product /conditioner into soaking wet, upside down hair; plop for 10 minutes, air dry. (Diffuser dry front section.)
Fave Styling Products: KCKT; Tigi Curl Amplifier Creme; Batia & Aleeza gel; Giovanni Sunset Styler; LA Looks Sport Gel.
I was doing that to ADD more hold and elminate a bit more frizz, but maybe it doesn't work?
Maybe omit the LA Natural gel? On me, putting wet gel on over it would undo the hold I got from BRHG. I scrunch it out dry usually, only using the tiniest smidge of KBB hair cream or JCNS - nothing wet - if I simply can't get it to scrunch out dry. If I've used a leave-in under BRHG, I usually don't need anything, though.
Originally Posted by auntnett
I was using the gel with the intention of elimiating a tad more frizz and bringing more hold in, but you think it doesn't do that?
No, not on dry hair, which I assumed yours was since you were using it to SOTC.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett

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