Still don't quite get SOTC

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I have an image in my head of crunchy crispy hair between my fingers and it leaving hair frizzy or out of shape.

I've started separating my curls with my fingers and then just shaking my head (almost like a dog) from side to side and it helps to fluffy it up without breaking up the curls. I do this after a few hours of having washed or cowashed.
I SOTC with a curl creme a la boots, DM, etc. Light application to palms, emulsify, scrunch curls upside down and shake it out lightly.
2b/3a.
I don't quite understand SOTC with a curl creme. I have never tried it but it seems strange to me. Maybe I will have to try! Either way, I SOTC with Jane Carter's Nourish & Shine. It's like a butter and works okay. I am looking for something better, but this you don't have to use your bare hands.
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See, how bizarre is that, I've tried JC's N&S a few times to SOTC and get the greasiest curls, I've even bought it twice! Boots definitely works best for me, tho only in cooler weather
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i usually just light scrunch with some FOTE AVG. my only issue is the tope of my head! I usually try to smooth it out like if i was doing a pony tail, but it doesnt really seem to work
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What exactly does boots do? Besides getting rid of crunch, does it make it curlier? I have only used it on wet hair.

Yes, the top of my head is problematic too, however, I usually just crunch out each strand with my fingers started at the roots. It works pretty well.
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I wash my hair at night and apply all of my products. I'll sleep with a scarf or bonnet always because my hair is still wet. When I wake up it is still wet. Once my hair is fully dry, sometime in the middle of the day it tends to be crunchy. I usually wear it that way for the first full day. Then the next night, I'll sleep with a bonnet and some of the crunch will be gone but there will still be some crunch.

If, on the second night I sleep with my hair out, that will get all of the crunch out without me actually having to re-wet or apply any other products. My hair seems to last longer and I will get the volume that I like.

Is SOTC just because you don't like the crunchy feel or does it help with volume? Does it do anything else for your style?
Is SOTC just because you don't like the crunchy feel or does it help with volume? Does it do anything else for your style?
Originally Posted by monkeygirl
For me, when my hair is crunchy, it doesn't just feel crunchy - it looks it, too. When I SOTC, my crunchy bits of hair go from looking kinda wet and stiff to soft and bouncy.
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I wash my hair at night and apply all of my products. I'll sleep with a scarf or bonnet always because my hair is still wet. When I wake up it is still wet. Once my hair is fully dry, sometime in the middle of the day it tends to be crunchy. I usually wear it that way for the first full day. Then the next night, I'll sleep with a bonnet and some of the crunch will be gone but there will still be some crunch.

If, on the second night I sleep with my hair out, that will get all of the crunch out without me actually having to re-wet or apply any other products. My hair seems to last longer and I will get the volume that I like.

Is SOTC just because you don't like the crunchy feel or does it help with volume? Does it do anything else for your style?
Originally Posted by monkeygirl


Both ---- I hate crunch, and the curls seem to swell and puff a bit once I get rid of the hard stuff.

I tried sleeping without SOTC and got....disaster.
[/quote]For me, when my hair is crunchy, it doesn't just feel crunchy - it looks it, too. When I SOTC, my crunchy bits of hair go from looking kinda wet and stiff to soft and bouncy.[/quote]

So if you SOTC would you get more volume earlier?
Is SOTC just because you don't like the crunchy feel or does it help with volume? Does it do anything else for your style?
Originally Posted by monkeygirl
For me, when my hair is crunchy, it doesn't just feel crunchy - it looks it, too. When I SOTC, my crunchy bits of hair go from looking kinda wet and stiff to soft and bouncy.
Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
This is the same for me, my hair can be totally dry and still look as wet as when I got out of the shower - the only difference is the length as it does shrink up when dry. If I don't SOTC (I do it with the diffuser pointing at it and bare hands) my hair is very thin and stringy looking with no volume whatsoever.
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You won't fully understand scrunching out the crunch until you actually do it. Any product with hold will give you the chance. It is also a key point in the longevity of a do. Too early, or on time makes a vital difference. I love scrunching in the shower, but I also love my hair when I get a chance to scrunch out the crunch.
For me, when my hair is crunchy, it doesn't just feel crunchy - it looks it, too. When I SOTC, my crunchy bits of hair go from looking kinda wet and stiff to soft and bouncy.[/quote]

So if you SOTC would you get more volume earlier?[/quote]

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Is SOTC just because you don't like the crunchy feel or does it help with volume? Does it do anything else for your style?
Originally Posted by monkeygirl
For me, when my hair is crunchy, it doesn't just feel crunchy - it looks it, too. When I SOTC, my crunchy bits of hair go from looking kinda wet and stiff to soft and bouncy.
Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
Me too! Mine looks crunchy/wet and I have bare spots as well. By SOTC it gets fuller, soft and bouncy. I do it first upside down - I use my curlease towel. Then I run my hands right against my scalp - up the back, the sides and then the front...making sure I am really close to the scalp. Then I flip upright and do the ends with the curlease. I rarely use any product to SOTC - but when I tried Jane Carter N&S it was a diaster. I sometimes will use KBB hair butter.
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I NEVER got this; but I thought it was because I rarely get "crunch". AT least with the right products for my hair I dont; I avoid products that dry hard or crispy. But I DO use products that dry that way on others so..... I think the sheer weight of my very thick hair helps avoid that.

That having been said, when my hair is "right" (technique, product, cut etc), I actualy (dundunDUN!), run my fingers thru the whole head when its dry to separate the curls and make then flowy.

To each her own
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I NEVER got this; but I thought it was because I rarely get "crunch". AT least with the right products for my hair I dont; I avoid products that dry hard or crispy. But I DO use products that dry that way on others so..... I think the sheer weight of my very thick hair helps avoid that.

That having been said, when my hair is "right" (technique, product, cut etc), I actualy (dundunDUN!), run my fingers thru the whole head when its dry to separate the curls and make then flowy.

To each her own
Originally Posted by rudeechick
It could be because of the HESMU. I get significantly less crunch with than with any other gel I use.

Overall, mousse makes me the crispiest and I've had difficulities even scrunching it out. CK makes me have to scrunch but it's not crunchy when I do. I think some peoples' hair just absorbs more than others.

speckla - that method sounds interesting. I'll have to try that when I just use CK and I have very little crunch.
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Hmmmm... I wonder if porosity has something to do with crunch. I get crunch with most product. Interesting.
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What exactly does boots do?
Originally Posted by curlygirl18
I get volume and hold when I scrunch with boots, but like Johnboy said timing is everything, I have to have completely dry hair.
2b/3a.
I use KBB Hair Butter to SOTC and it works great.
I NEVER got this; but I thought it was because I rarely get "crunch". AT least with the right products for my hair I dont; I avoid products that dry hard or crispy. But I DO use products that dry that way on others so..... I think the sheer weight of my very thick hair helps avoid that.

That having been said, when my hair is "right" (technique, product, cut etc), I actualy (dundunDUN!), run my fingers thru the whole head when its dry to separate the curls and make then flowy.

To each her own
Originally Posted by rudeechick
You're so lucky! I wish I could find something that didn't give me such serious crunch. I get so much crunch from my KCCC and B5 that my hair won't move at all when it's dry and looks like it's still sopping wet until I SOTC. But if I don't have that crunch I don't get hold for more than a couple of hours. I turn all poofy and frizzy before the day is over.

But I do hate the extra work and time it takes to SOTC. lol
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I NEVER got this; but I thought it was because I rarely get "crunch". AT least with the right products for my hair I dont; I avoid products that dry hard or crispy. But I DO use products that dry that way on others so..... I think the sheer weight of my very thick hair helps avoid that.

That having been said, when my hair is "right" (technique, product, cut etc), I actualy (dundunDUN!), run my fingers thru the whole head when its dry to separate the curls and make then flowy.

To each her own
Originally Posted by rudeechick
It could be because of the HESMU. I get significantly less crunch with than with any other gel I use.

Overall, mousse makes me the crispiest and I've had difficulities even scrunching it out. CK makes me have to scrunch but it's not crunchy when I do. I think some peoples' hair just absorbs more than others.

speckla - that method sounds interesting. I'll have to try that when I just use CK and I have very little crunch.
Originally Posted by whatsercurl
Its not just the SMU, I never got crinchies - not even with BRHG or Joiwhip! My hairs weird that way.....The rare items that will make me crunchy are liquid gels (glazes), and even then, only if I overdo it.
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