what is low protein/cone?

Hi everyone,
i'm trying to determine what exaxtly it is in a conditioner that will keep my hair feeling moisturised for longest.
i would like to find out if my hair dislikes cones or proteins or both, or if low doses of either keep them happy.
so my question is: what is a low protein product?

I have a conditioner where proteins are 11th and 18th on a list of about 30 is this a low protein?

also for cones, is it the same concept as for protein or does the type of cone make it low eg. water soluble?

alot of questions i know lol but any help would be much appreciated
Henna and shea butter. Next to try are shampoos bars (still <3 baking soda)
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I use GDLI and it has protein in it, but it is half way down the list. I was told that there is not much protein in it.
As far as cones....my experience anyways, my hair can tolerate them if they are way down on the list (I use yes to carrots (has cones in it), occasionally -- i was using it all the time and i believe i was getting build-up, but if i use it once a week or so, I'm fine). and worst case scenerio , you get build up, wash um out and move on to the next product.
Really it is trial and error. I've spent so much money on figuring out what my hair needs and wants. I'm getting there, but i've also invested lots o' money in it! hope i've sort of helped you???
Hi everyone,
i'm trying to determine what exaxtly it is in a conditioner that will keep my hair feeling moisturised for longest.
i would like to find out if my hair dislikes cones or proteins or both, or if low doses of either keep them happy.
so my question is: what is a low protein product?

I have a conditioner where proteins are 11th and 18th on a list of about 30 is this a low protein?

also for cones, is it the same concept as for protein or does the type of cone make it low eg. water soluble?

alot of questions i know lol but any help would be much appreciated
Originally Posted by Sapphire_Chic
The Loreal Vive Pro Nutri Gloss conditioner for Wavy/Curly hair lists protein as the last ingredient and it's also cone-free. Some people find it really moisturizing as well. Many people find they are protein-sensitive if their hair feels dry or brittle or "flash-dries" after using protein.

As for the most moisturzing conditioner I've used, it has to be Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose. I usually can only use this once a week. Oh, and it's also cone free. Right now my hair is suffering from being colored, so I've been using AOHR on my hair for long periods of time to try to bring back some moisture.

The problem with cones is that many of them are not water-soluble. This means that after a period of use the cones will build up in your hair and the only way to remove them is with a sulfate shampoo, which robs your hair of much needed moisture. There are some cones that can be removed by co-washing or with a low-poo and these usually have PEG in front of them. This website has a list of the "bad" and "ok" cones: http://healthycurls.awardspace.com/cones.html
I don't know of any conditioners that list silicone as a last ingredient- many companys that use silicone for conditioner use it as one of their primary moisturizing agents.

The first step may be to give up the sulfate-poo, if you haven't already. This will allow you to keep the moisture in your hair.
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From my understanding, certain silicones will be hard to remove regardless of where they are in ranking on the ingredients list.

Here`s an article on how to remove certain ones

Silicones

Hoping someone else will pipe up about protein as I don`t remember seeing the question posed in this way before. I`ve always assumed that they would not only show up fairly high in the ranking but also there would be more types of protein in ones that were more protein rich.
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thanks for the responses ladies

wavy curly: yea i think it will be mainly trial and error i just dont want to spend too much money in the process lol i hope to get to the point where i'm pretty sure my hair like/dislike protiens..how much cones i can handle, thanks for the tip

winnie no poo: ooo thank you i was finding it abit hard to find a resonably priced low/no protein and no cones i'll defo give this a try. thanks for the list of good and bad cones..i'll have to take it along with me to the shops...eta: or just check online lol

whatsercurl: i heard baking soda/bicarb removes silicones, i dont know how true this is because i dont use shampoo but everytime i wash with baking soda My hair feels almost squeaky clean, thanks for the list.
Henna and shea butter. Next to try are shampoos bars (still <3 baking soda)
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winnie no poo: ooo thank you i was finding it abit hard to find a resonably priced low/no protein and no cones i'll defo give this a try. thanks for the list of good and bad cones..i'll have to take it along with me to the shops...eta: or just check online lol
Originally Posted by Sapphire_Chic
If you do decide to pick up LVPNG, make sure you get this one: http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...ELAID=84867398

I believe the other Vive Pro conditioners have cones.

Good luck!
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LVPNG, AOHR
Fave products: KCCC, KCKT, CK, Re:Coil, Joico, Aloe, BRHG
I've found that my hair is picky about the TYPE of protien.... If it's dairy (milk, cream, goat milk, etc.), I'm good. If it's silk, I get dry frizzy straw. So keep that in mind as well. Your hair my tolerate or even thrive on one protien and not another. Same goes for the 'cones. I know some of the gals around here can tolerate certain ones but not others. It's all very confusing and htere is no pat answer. None of us are genetically identical with identical activites and lifestyles. All of those things play a factor in what your hair will need to be truly its best.
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Morrignu

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thanks for the update winnie thats not the one i see around. i'll have to be careful to get the right one.

morrighu: that was in the back of my mind lol i just didn't want to think of it but its a really important point. i'm sure it wont be too hard to figure which proteins i can handle because i could tell after my first try with eggs my hair didn't like it
Henna and shea butter. Next to try are shampoos bars (still <3 baking soda)
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