What is the best...

Protein intensive (and I mean intensive) conditioner/leave-in/styler, etc.? I'm desperated to get my hair back tino a semi-normal state after bleaching the hell out of it and coloring it twice. Here's what I've got in my little hoard.

Joico KPak
Structur Fort (it's kind of a DT, but normalizes the hair. I can only use once a week.
Redken CAT reconstructor
Redken Anti-snap

I am following up with moisture, promise.

Anyone have any ideas?
2B...ish
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Products
This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
If you want to go hard core, check out the Aphogee treatment - the long one, not the two minute one. There is a long thread about it on the 4a board.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.

Last edited by redcelticcurls; 05-24-2009 at 12:51 PM. Reason: added link
I haven't tried this but the Cherrylola treatment got rave reviews. I know it's another DT not a styler or condish but it could help.

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...d.php?p=917188
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If you want to go hard core, check out the Aphogee treatment - the long one, not the two minute one. There is a long thread about it on the 4a board.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
And where might one find the aphogee? Please tell me sally's. I need to run down there for some Joico knockoff and some Biolage knockoff.
2B...ish
http://public.fotki.com/SunshineGrrl/ pw: drama
Products
This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
Have had good luck with the keratin-based CHI Protein Leave-in Spray. I use it a couple of times a week, no more or I get a little "crunchy".
3b, superfine, natural colour
Complete CG from May 2007 - Mod CG starting June 2008 - no sulfates, no cones

There was a little girl, with a little curl
Right in the middle of her forehead
When she was good
She was very, very good
But when she was bad she was horrid!

- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
If you want to go hard core, check out the Aphogee treatment - the long one, not the two minute one. There is a long thread about it on the 4a board.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
And where might one find the aphogee? Please tell me sally's. I need to run down there for some Joico knockoff and some Biolage knockoff.
Originally Posted by SunshineGrrl
Well, you are in luck, it's at Sally's!
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
I haven't tried this but the Cherrylola treatment got rave reviews. I know it's another DT not a styler or condish but it could help.

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...d.php?p=917188
Originally Posted by Jess the Mess
I've done this tweaked a bit from kathymack's recipe (on page 2 of the thread). It worked fabulously.

Not a styling product but great for a bi-weekly treatment. I have yogurt in house anyway, but I had to buy the Bragg's. In Canada, it's marketed as soy sauce so I can use it for my hair or cooking.
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Curl Fix and Daily Fix are my HGs


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wavy/curly fine texture/medium porosity/medium-low density

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Have had good luck with the keratin-based CHI Protein Leave-in Spray. I use it a couple of times a week, no more or I get a little "crunchy".
Originally Posted by curlylex
I looked at that at the beauty supply store, but couldn't justify the price with the stuff I'd already purchased. Do they have a knockoff at Sally's?

If you want to go hard core, check out the Aphogee treatment - the long one, not the two minute one. There is a long thread about it on the 4a board.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
And where might one find the aphogee? Please tell me sally's. I need to run down there for some Joico knockoff and some Biolage knockoff.
Originally Posted by SunshineGrrl
Well, you are in luck, it's at Sally's!
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Yessssss! Is this more hardcore than Joico KPak? I've tried KPak a couple of times and I'm still getting about 5" worth of stretch.
2B...ish
http://public.fotki.com/SunshineGrrl/ pw: drama
Products
This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
I feel that the Aphogee is *the* hardcore treatment. Do read the thread though. It isn't just a simple DT; it's a long process, lol.

ETA: I like the Kpak and use it myself, which makes me think it isn't all that hard core, more medium. Hard core is too much for me, lol.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
Sorry - no Sally's here - don't know if you can find a knock-off...
3b, superfine, natural colour
Complete CG from May 2007 - Mod CG starting June 2008 - no sulfates, no cones

There was a little girl, with a little curl
Right in the middle of her forehead
When she was good
She was very, very good
But when she was bad she was horrid!

- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Sorry - no Sally's here - don't know if you can find a knock-off...
Originally Posted by curlylex
Curse. I was at Sally's and saw a CHI knockoff and it said silk infusion with a blurb underneath that says Enrich hair with pure silk wheat & soy protein. So I bought it thinking this was what you were talking about. Oh, well. I'll keep it or hand it off to my sister.

I did the Aphogee treatment and it seems to have improved the hair. Awesome! I even asked at Sally's if they have the Nexxus Emergencee and they said no.

Thanks everybody for the suggestions!
2B...ish
http://public.fotki.com/SunshineGrrl/ pw: drama
Products
This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
I was wondering how it would work for you. It is pretty hard core, and it is funny to imagine it hardening on a head.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
I was wondering how it would work for you. It is pretty hard core, and it is funny to imagine it hardening on a head.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Yeah, it's quite an interesting product and a challenge to rinse it all out. It takes literally 5+ minutes of rinsing just to get the crunchiness factor out of it. Then I mixed a little shampoo with conditioner and shampood and followed up with the moisture treatment it came with. My hair feels almost normal except it feels a bit dry. Probably too much protein and not enough moisture. I'm SMRT and have only been using a protein leave-in. Obviously need to used moisture, too.

When they say this stuff dries hard...They mean it. I used my soft bonnet dryer while surfing the net and could barely get the bonnet off. I picked up a piece and swear it would have broken off if I had tried to fold it. But it worked! Mikey likes it!
2B...ish
http://public.fotki.com/SunshineGrrl/ pw: drama
Products
This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
Wow.

I always find it interesting when someone uses it. And, with your schooling, your POC becomes even more interesting. I will have to see if you blog about it, lol

I'm glad that it seemed to help though!
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
Wow.

I always find it interesting when someone uses it. And, with your schooling, your POC becomes even more interesting. I will have to see if you blog about it, lol

I'm glad that it seemed to help though!
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Never thought about blogging about it. I'll do it! Just give me a couple days.
2B...ish
http://public.fotki.com/SunshineGrrl/ pw: drama
Products
This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.

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