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OperaCurls 05-24-2009 05:24 PM

Less product = more volume (duh moment!)
 
Oh good grief.... I've been on these boards for nearly a year, and one of my curly goals all along has been volume for my very fine 3B hair. I've plopped, clipped, diffused, pineappled (thought after a certain length it's more like weeping-willowed), tried countless product combinations.... all with limited success.

Innyhoo, felt lazy yesterday so instead of my usual routine of cowash+rinse-out+leave-in+gel+plop+clip roots+diffuse, I detangled and rinsed my hair completely of condish, then plopped my product-free hair for five minutes while dressing, then let it air dry and forgot about it while I made dinner. Imagine my shock, then, when I looked in a mirror two hours later to see airy but fairly defined curls with almost too much volume! All I did at that point was smooth a minimal amount of Aloe Fix and water over the canopy and underside, which tamed frizzies and made the curls *pop*!!!

Okay, seriously?!?!?! All along, this was all I had to do?! Tried again today, the only thing I did differently was leave in some KBB Nectar and clip the roots to encourage root curl, and I'm pretty sure this is the best my hair has ever looked and felt at this length!

Moral of the story: Sometimes, simplicity really is best!

CurlyHairedFarmer 05-24-2009 05:27 PM

I have been doing this at night when I shower. I work in a barn so I don't care what I look like in the morning.

I have been getting some awesome volume in my 3a curls, plus I just ordered AF.

CurlyinColorado 05-24-2009 05:28 PM

That is NOT fair.

But, I'm very happy for you :)

DEL2C 05-24-2009 05:51 PM

:lol: so now it's confirmed why More Product=Less Volume if I did what you did opera I would be a gigantic poof ball! Glad you had a light bulb moment, it could also be the warmer weather and humidity giving you a boost in addition to your new less is more approach.

whatsercurl 05-24-2009 06:02 PM

I have found the same thing to be true opera. Everytime a I would try a new product, I would join the application wagon everyone else was on. A few weeks' ago I hopped off the KCCC application wagon and to my delight I finally liked KCCC. I used half or less what others use. I, too, had more volume and it dried so much faster.

I find less product but the right ones give me more volume but not more pouf. :)

saricurl 05-24-2009 07:06 PM

I'm finding the same thing. I changed up my routine (leave in, curl cream, scrunch with towel, gel) to eliminate the curl cream and instead I do leave-in + 2 drops of agave nectar, gel, and then scrunch with the towel. This has made my hair much lighter and airier but still very defined, and the curls have a much better shape. Sometimes less is more!!

jillipoo 05-24-2009 08:01 PM

That's great, opera_curls! I'm on that bandwagon, too -- less is usually more in my case. So much so that even if I'm using small amounts of things, I tend to stick with two products or less.

I don't know if I could be successful smoothing just Aloe Fix gel and water on my dried hair, but what the heck -- tomorrow is a holiday and I just may give it a try!

I wonder if the weather plays a role?

OperaCurls 05-24-2009 08:47 PM

The weather/humidity probably affects the outcome. I live in a fairly temperate area, last summer I remember the humidity being between 40% and 65% most days and between 80-100 degrees F. I'm trying to figure out the whole dew point thing... I do know that this pared-down routine would NOT have been successful during winter - too much rain and wind.

Jillipoo and CurlyHairedFarmer, previous to my accidental discovery, I had been using the Aloe Fix on wet hair over a leave in, applying it as mysteryflavored did KCCC in her video last year. I'll probably still do that some days because I like the definition and clumps I get (no crunch, either). Applying it to dry hair smoothes frizz and actually tightened my curls to 3C springlets. My hair reacts this way to AVG too, but the Aloe Fix doesn't make it feel crunchy or coarse in dry weather.

OperaCurls 05-24-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whatsercurl (Post 975167)
I have found the same thing to be true opera. Everytime a I would try a new product, I would join the application wagon everyone else was on. A few weeks' ago I hopped off the KCCC application wagon and to my delight I finally liked KCCC. I used half or less what others use. I, too, had more volume and it dried so much faster.

I find less product but the right ones give me more volume but not more pouf. :)

Same here! Last winter I started scrunching in KCCC after I plopped, which got rid of excess water and cut down on drying time, and I had relatively good volume.

Forgot to add about the Aloe Fix: It's really thick, but emulsifies easily and I can smooth it on my frizz-prone crown without getting weighted down or greasy looking. You have to try to over-apply this stuff.

curlygirl18 05-25-2009 10:47 AM

That is so interesting because I woke up this morning and was going to start a post like that too! I have just been layering the products on in gobs...it looked good and I had no problems, but two days in a row I purposely put lots less on and I had tons of volume and still great curls. Imagine my surprise!

OperaCurls 05-25-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by curlygirl18 (Post 975722)
That is so interesting because I woke up this morning and was going to start a post like that too! I have just been layering the products on in gobs...it looked good and I had no problems, but two days in a row I purposely put lots less on and I had tons of volume and still great curls. Imagine my surprise!

No kidding. I guess part of my surprise with all of this is due to the fact that I have not gone without a lot of product since way before going CG. The thought of letting my hair dry with no product took me back to the days of middle school; hair pulled back into a limp, frizzy ponytail or bun every day because my mom couldn't afford "hair gunk."

kathymack 05-26-2009 06:06 AM

opera_curls, I don't remember--are you low porosity? I know I use minute amounts of product--but I have a lot less hair then you do, too. Since the product isn't absorbed by the hair as easily, less is usually more then enough, LOL!

FunkyCurlGurl 05-26-2009 11:58 AM

You know...I've been having some issues lately with my hair turning out horribly...and I do mean horribly after my normal shower/style routine. Reading this thread has me thinking that product overload might be the culprit. I'm gonna try a curl lotion mixed with a small amount of gel and be done with it tonight and see how it goes. I miss my hair's volume :crybaby:

OperaCurls 05-26-2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kathymack (Post 976491)
opera_curls, I don't remember--are you low porosity? I know I use minute amounts of product--but I have a lot less hair then you do, too. Since the product isn't absorbed by the hair as easily, less is usually more then enough, LOL!

Kathymack, I've honestly never really payed attention to my hair's porosity. I'm assuming it's fairly low, because I've never had issues with my hair sucking up tons of moisture and still feeling dry, but I also don't get overconditioned very often at all. :dontknow:

kazza186 05-26-2009 01:09 PM

Hmm, needing a day off from seeing ppl before I try this one I think! But it does make sense. I've been using more and more product lately (just cos its all so much fun!), and I have been getting some pretty awful hair days :(


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