High Dew Point Product/Support Thread

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Oh this is good to know that you can do ACV once a week without issues! Makes me want to wash today to try another combo I'm not surprised that the Aussie isn't working, BRHG is barely strong enough for me. I wish there was another hard hold gel out there....If it wasn't for the Honey I don't think I'd get the hold I need in high dews.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
Del I ACV once a week too with no problems. Yesterday I added the Dr. Bronner's rinse directly to my condish like KM talked about in another thread and it really made a difference. Finally I found a way to use the darn stuff. I had MUCH less frizz than I've had lately and I didn't even use much in the way of a styler, just a few puddles of Gel-les'c (I was lazy). I also cold water rinse at the end of every wash and that has made an improvement. I'm trying to find other ways of getting rid of frizz instead of hard hold gels because they just weigh down my curls now that my hair is so long.

I actually haven't used the Aquage gel since I reviewed it last Del but I will today to see how it does in higher dews. Remember that I did get more volume from it than BRHG and so did cfry and laurabeth so I don't know if the Mega would be what you are looking for. Rudee tried the defining if I remember correctly. KM has samples of both still. Did you ever try the AG Hard Jel Extra-Firm Hold that laurabeth talks about in your Aquage thread?

RCC I'm def interested to see if the Keratin in the JoiGel starts to give you a problem.
Originally Posted by Jess the Mess
AG Hard Jel

water/aqua, pvp/dimethylaminoethylmethacrylate copolymer, pvp/va copolymer, glycerin, glyceryl polymethacrylate, peg-12 dimethicone, peg-8 dimethicone, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract, urtica diocica (nettle) extract, chamomilla recutita (matricaria) flower extract, humulus lupulus (hops) extract, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) leaf extract, melissa officinalis leaf extract, achillea mellefolium extract, prunus serotina (wild cherry) bark extract, cymbopogon schoenanthus extract, calendula officinalis flower extract, panthenol, carbomer, silk amino acids, hydrolyzed oats, triethanolamine, polysorbate 20, tetrasodium edta, ethylhexyl methoxycinnamate, parfum/fragrance, sodium hydroxymethylglycinate, blue 1.

Not wild about the ingredients. I don't mind maybe 1 soluble cone and the silk amino acids, but I don't want 2 cones and 2 kinds of proteins in my gel. Especially the Hydrolyzed kind. Frankly, BRHG is giving me volume right now too unless I use CK and Honey. Such is the nature of the beast in this kind of weather. Rudee did try the defining gel because it's marketed as a med hold gel.
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
It's 100 here today with a dewpoint of 84. I am so grateful for AC coz I HATE heat and humidity.

But my hair is looking pretty good!! I only used Living Proof today with nothing else, just to see what this stuff does. I had a little frizz when I was dry so I just ran some CJ Aloe Fix mixed with water over my hair and here it is, evening time and I have really really acceptable hair!! I even went shopping, tried on
clothes, and went to a party where I got several comments from my CG buddies on how good my hair was looking.

I am liking how Living Proof feels- very soft, no crunch, no poof, little frizz. I prefer it with KCCC and CJ Aloe Fix. I am relieved since I'm being video taped next week several times for hours and really didn't want bad hair days!!

Thank you DEL for mentioning Living Proof in a thread- that's what got me to try it.

I am also planning to try the Bronners rinse, as a porous head I expect that to help too.

I am amazed that I am now confident of making it through our ridiculous weather here. I am almost sad that I'll be wearing updos so much just to stay cool!! I wish I could find a product to help my body cope with the heat as well as my hair can now!!
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Oh this is good to know that you can do ACV once a week without issues! Makes me want to wash today to try another combo I'm not surprised that the Aussie isn't working, BRHG is barely strong enough for me. I wish there was another hard hold gel out there....If it wasn't for the Honey I don't think I'd get the hold I need in high dews.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
Del I ACV once a week too with no problems. Yesterday I added the Dr. Bronner's rinse directly to my condish like KM talked about in another thread and it really made a difference. Finally I found a way to use the darn stuff. I had MUCH less frizz than I've had lately and I didn't even use much in the way of a styler, just a few puddles of Gel-les'c (I was lazy). I also cold water rinse at the end of every wash and that has made an improvement. I'm trying to find other ways of getting rid of frizz instead of hard hold gels because they just weigh down my curls now that my hair is so long.

I actually haven't used the Aquage gel since I reviewed it last Del but I will today to see how it does in higher dews. Remember that I did get more volume from it than BRHG and so did cfry and laurabeth so I don't know if the Mega would be what you are looking for. Rudee tried the defining if I remember correctly. KM has samples of both still. Did you ever try the AG Hard Jel Extra-Firm Hold that laurabeth talks about in your Aquage thread?

RCC I'm def interested to see if the Keratin in the JoiGel starts to give you a problem.
Originally Posted by Jess the Mess
AG Hard Jel

water/aqua, pvp/dimethylaminoethylmethacrylate copolymer, pvp/va copolymer, glycerin, glyceryl polymethacrylate, peg-12 dimethicone, peg-8 dimethicone, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract, urtica diocica (nettle) extract, chamomilla recutita (matricaria) flower extract, humulus lupulus (hops) extract, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) leaf extract, melissa officinalis leaf extract, achillea mellefolium extract, prunus serotina (wild cherry) bark extract, cymbopogon schoenanthus extract, calendula officinalis flower extract, panthenol, carbomer, silk amino acids, hydrolyzed oats, triethanolamine, polysorbate 20, tetrasodium edta, ethylhexyl methoxycinnamate, parfum/fragrance, sodium hydroxymethylglycinate, blue 1.

Not wild about the ingredients. I don't mind maybe 1 soluble cone and the silk amino acids, but I don't want 2 cones and 2 kinds of proteins in my gel. Especially the Hydrolyzed kind. Frankly, BRHG is giving me volume right now too unless I use CK and Honey. Such is the nature of the beast in this kind of weather. Rudee did try the defining gel because it's marketed as a med hold gel.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
I didn't even look at the ingredients...I'd stay away from it too Hydrolyzed=straw for me. Yuck. I didn't end up doing my hair today, I did a 2nd day puff with a flower instead as some friends dropped by unexpectedly. I'll def use the gel again tomorrow though. I'm wondering if it works better in higher dews. I should have dews around 65 tomorrow so we'll see.
High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

I trying to get it. It's so sticky here, I hate it!

So I should use a strong gel, like BRHG? I usually use it over KCCC... still fine for the summer/high dew points? I ask because this usually works in the winter as well... maybe just need less gel then.

People also seem to have some luck with L.A. Looks sports gel, so I may try that.

I assume I should cut out leaving in Lustrasilk Olive Oil?

What about products like HESMU gel, HETT mousse and HEBE mousse?


"Stronger gels in the summer. Moisture in the winter." Is usually what I go by. But I am never good with products.
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BSRHG is ok alone in the winter for me, but in the summer, I just don't get that "oompf".

Now this morning, we were still pretty sticky because of the storms the night before (you know..that dampness in the morning that causes fog, etc..it's a killer with the dewpoint levels). I thought I would take a chance and do an experiment this morning: I mixed a bit of EVERYTHING together....just small amounts and mixed them together in my hand: BSRHG, John Frieda "Down Play" (is that it? The volume reducer?), Bouncy Curls, and a dab of the GFCC (yes, I KNOW it has a -cone, but I was experimenting today...). And you know what? The friggin' hair day wasn't so bad!! Not even kidding! I am guessing it is because of the John Frieda stuff....the other things never worked entirely before so I may have to use that John Frieda stuff in the summer.

Of course....can't touch the hair AT ALL as it is drying (I like to also dry it in front of a large floor fan, too....). And after I do a couple of clips up, I do spray a few quirts of spray gel on it.

When dry, I shake it out a bit from UNDERNEATH....it wasn't BAD, but as the morning went on, the sun came out and the dewpoint went down a BIT..not much..but a bit. It's those really damp days that TOTALLY kill me.
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-All OVER the board 2-3a-(depends on the day). 2nd day hair is impossible!
-JUST discovering importance of porosity! Fill and seal! I'm low!
-DC1C, JCGLS, Natural Glycerine for clarifying
-Deva Cuts better for me when shorter (shoulder). Ouidad cuts are EVIL for me.
-When long: BSRHG, Deva BLeaveIn, JCRR
When shorter: Deva BLeaveIn, DevaCurl Foam.
OMG. I just read that the Downplay stuff has been DISCONTINUED!!! AHHHH!!!!! Anyone know what the "equiv" is??? Naturally, I find something that works to a degree and it is DISCONTINUED! Someone had sent me the rest of their bottle...so that is how I have it.

:a ngry7::ang ry7:
41/married/2 kids/2 cats

-All OVER the board 2-3a-(depends on the day). 2nd day hair is impossible!
-JUST discovering importance of porosity! Fill and seal! I'm low!
-DC1C, JCGLS, Natural Glycerine for clarifying
-Deva Cuts better for me when shorter (shoulder). Ouidad cuts are EVIL for me.
-When long: BSRHG, Deva BLeaveIn, JCRR
When shorter: Deva BLeaveIn, DevaCurl Foam.
John Frieda SUCKS!!! All of their stuff is FULL of nasty silicones now!!! What is UP with that??????

Here is what was in Downplay....I didn't see anything terribly bad! The silicone is water-soluble, right???

Water, PPG-12 Dimethicone, Polyquaternium-46, VP/Methacrylamide/Vinyl Imidizole Copolymer, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Hydroxypropyl BIS-Hydroxyethyldimonium Chloride, Propylene Glycol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Sage Leaf Extract, Calendula Officianalis, Camellia Sinesis Leaf Extract, Fragrance.
41/married/2 kids/2 cats

-All OVER the board 2-3a-(depends on the day). 2nd day hair is impossible!
-JUST discovering importance of porosity! Fill and seal! I'm low!
-DC1C, JCGLS, Natural Glycerine for clarifying
-Deva Cuts better for me when shorter (shoulder). Ouidad cuts are EVIL for me.
-When long: BSRHG, Deva BLeaveIn, JCRR
When shorter: Deva BLeaveIn, DevaCurl Foam.
Getting third day hair from the KCCC/JoiGel combo.

Humidity levels are quite reasonable today with dewpoints in the low 60s.

But, I'm going to wash my car and change my oil, so it'll be bunned later.

Using a bit of the gel on dry hair yesterday did help, but I'm too crazy about the producty feel. It looked normal, but I'm not a big fan of how stuff feels on dry hair - except for pomade.

But, for the results, I can deal with it.
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Med/Coarse, porous curly.
AQUAGE

I need to play around with this with another conditioner, I think I used CK with AMG on top and when I took down the plop it looked great. It didn't feel hard but it looked promising. As I continued to air dry (I'll break out R2D2 next time) My hair was frizzing like CRAZY all over but the waves were still well formed. I couldn't stand looking at it so I used my Honey Spray and amazingly that stopped the Frizz. I started diffusing then air dried some more. Once it dried it was soft and didn't feel producty at all and I didn't get POOF. It looked really good and curly not loose waves. It was my Summer hair for sure! I used a little condish on the canopy then put it in a pineapple before Bed.

Day 2 is a very light spritz underneath and just a little spritz on my hand over the canopy. I love how soft my hair is and it's very well defined. Still no excessive volume

So I have no idea what's up with the frizz but I know laurabeth reported similar results. I think if this is the case and I can use a honey spray on top I'll keep using it for the Summer. When the weather changes if the same thing happens then I'll know it's a high dew point product only that requires Honey to make it work. I can live with that Unless someone miraculously comes out with a fabu product designed specifically for us Coarse Heads, right RCC
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
The highest my dewpoint is going to reach today is 43. It will be around 85 degrees. The low humidity here has caused my hair to lose some of its curl, but that's normal in a dry climate.

At the end of July, I'm going to FL for a wedding. I've been in CO for 7 1/2 years now, and my hair is no longer used to the levels of humidity I expect in FL. I was used to managing it in NYC, but I wasn't CG then at all. I'm really hoping my KCCC with either the B5 Design Gel or the BRHG holds for me, but I think I'm going to have to go with some up dos anyway because I can't stand my hair on my neck in high humidity. I get heat rash really quickly and really badly. Speaking of which, I need to start a new thread on up dos. I'm tired of my boring buns and pony tails.
"...just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face." ~Harry Dresden

Oh this is good to know that you can do ACV once a week without issues! Makes me want to wash today to try another combo I'm not surprised that the Aussie isn't working, BRHG is barely strong enough for me. I wish there was another hard hold gel out there....If it wasn't for the Honey I don't think I'd get the hold I need in high dews.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
Del I ACV once a week too with no problems. Yesterday I added the Dr. Bronner's rinse directly to my condish like KM talked about in another thread and it really made a difference. Finally I found a way to use the darn stuff. I had MUCH less frizz than I've had lately and I didn't even use much in the way of a styler, just a few puddles of Gel-les'c (I was lazy). I also cold water rinse at the end of every wash and that has made an improvement. I'm trying to find other ways of getting rid of frizz instead of hard hold gels because they just weigh down my curls now that my hair is so long.

I actually haven't used the Aquage gel since I reviewed it last Del but I will today to see how it does in higher dews. Remember that I did get more volume from it than BRHG and so did cfry and laurabeth so I don't know if the Mega would be what you are looking for. Rudee tried the defining if I remember correctly. KM has samples of both still. Did you ever try the AG Hard Jel Extra-Firm Hold that laurabeth talks about in your Aquage thread?

RCC I'm def interested to see if the Keratin in the JoiGel starts to give you a problem.
Originally Posted by Jess the Mess
AG Hard Jel

water/aqua, pvp/dimethylaminoethylmethacrylate copolymer, pvp/va copolymer, glycerin, glyceryl polymethacrylate, peg-12 dimethicone, peg-8 dimethicone, salvia officinalis (sage) leaf extract, urtica diocica (nettle) extract, chamomilla recutita (matricaria) flower extract, humulus lupulus (hops) extract, rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) leaf extract, melissa officinalis leaf extract, achillea mellefolium extract, prunus serotina (wild cherry) bark extract, cymbopogon schoenanthus extract, calendula officinalis flower extract, panthenol, carbomer, silk amino acids, hydrolyzed oats, triethanolamine, polysorbate 20, tetrasodium edta, ethylhexyl methoxycinnamate, parfum/fragrance, sodium hydroxymethylglycinate, blue 1.

Not wild about the ingredients. I don't mind maybe 1 soluble cone and the silk amino acids, but I don't want 2 cones and 2 kinds of proteins in my gel. Especially the Hydrolyzed kind. Frankly, BRHG is giving me volume right now too unless I use CK and Honey. Such is the nature of the beast in this kind of weather. Rudee did try the defining gel because it's marketed as a med hold gel.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
I like the defining gel, the hold was hard, tho not as hard as BRHG IMO(if I recall correctly, havent used the BRHG in a year). Its a bit drying tho... I havent tried it with a leave in yet, which might help.
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AQUAGE

I need to play around with this with another conditioner, I think I used CK with AMG on top and when I took down the plop it looked great. It didn't feel hard but it looked promising. As I continued to air dry (I'll break out R2D2 next time) My hair was frizzing like CRAZY all over but the waves were still well formed. I couldn't stand looking at it so I used my Honey Spray and amazingly that stopped the Frizz. I started diffusing then air dried some more. Once it dried it was soft and didn't feel producty at all and I didn't get POOF. It looked really good and curly not loose waves. It was my Summer hair for sure! I used a little condish on the canopy then put it in a pineapple before Bed.

Day 2 is a very light spritz underneath and just a little spritz on my hand over the canopy. I love how soft my hair is and it's very well defined. Still no excessive volume

So I have no idea what's up with the frizz but I know laurabeth reported similar results. I think if this is the case and I can use a honey spray on top I'll keep using it for the Summer. When the weather changes if the same thing happens then I'll know it's a high dew point product only that requires Honey to make it work. I can live with that Unless someone miraculously comes out with a fabu product designed specifically for us Coarse Heads, right RCC
Originally Posted by DEL2C
Well, hey, if the spritzing works, good thing!

I'm liking the JoiGel so far. Third day hair is a good thing lol.

The keratin is the same kind as in the k-pak, and it's over a ton of kccc, so I am hoping that I can keep on tolerating it.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
AQUAGE

I need to play around with this with another conditioner, I think I used CK with AMG on top and when I took down the plop it looked great. It didn't feel hard but it looked promising. As I continued to air dry (I'll break out R2D2 next time) My hair was frizzing like CRAZY all over but the waves were still well formed. I couldn't stand looking at it so I used my Honey Spray and amazingly that stopped the Frizz. I started diffusing then air dried some more. Once it dried it was soft and didn't feel producty at all and I didn't get POOF. It looked really good and curly not loose waves. It was my Summer hair for sure! I used a little condish on the canopy then put it in a pineapple before Bed.

Day 2 is a very light spritz underneath and just a little spritz on my hand over the canopy. I love how soft my hair is and it's very well defined. Still no excessive volume

So I have no idea what's up with the frizz but I know laurabeth reported similar results. I think if this is the case and I can use a honey spray on top I'll keep using it for the Summer. When the weather changes if the same thing happens then I'll know it's a high dew point product only that requires Honey to make it work. I can live with that Unless someone miraculously comes out with a fabu product designed specifically for us Coarse Heads, right RCC
Originally Posted by DEL2C
I used the Aquage gel again today too. I scrunched in CK, let it have time to start working, then scrunched in the AMG. I really like my waves/curls today, really defined and shiny BUT I have frizz. Not an excessive amount, in fact I'm probably the only one who sees it. I'm going for second day tomorrow though as I think it'll refresh well. My dews did drop to the high 40s today though. 20 points in 24 hours, ugh. If I get 2nd day tomorrow I think I'll stick with this gel in my rotation as I like it's distribution and crunch factor better than BRHG.
High Priestess JessMess, follower of the Goddess of the Coiling Way and Confiscator of Concoctions in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

Oh this is good to know that you can do ACV once a week without issues! Makes me want to wash today to try another combo I'm not surprised that the Aussie isn't working, BRHG is barely strong enough for me. I wish there was another hard hold gel out there....If it wasn't for the Honey I don't think I'd get the hold I need in high dews.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
Hey Del,
When you use honey, do you mix it with your gel, and how much do you use?
You also mentioned you use it in the shower - how? What do you find it does for you?

Everyone else,
On applying gel: how do you get even distribution by scrunching?
(I used the Curlisto sectioning method to apply my gel yesterday and the result was not good, but it did insure that I coated all my hair!)

And one final question related to heat & humidity...since where I live it is SO hot, I spend most of my time indoors in the dry coolness of AC. So do you think I should style for the outside or the inside? Does moisture seep in from outside? (I wish I knew what the dew point inside was...)

Thank you!!
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Oh this is good to know that you can do ACV once a week without issues! Makes me want to wash today to try another combo I'm not surprised that the Aussie isn't working, BRHG is barely strong enough for me. I wish there was another hard hold gel out there....If it wasn't for the Honey I don't think I'd get the hold I need in high dews.
Originally Posted by DEL2C
Hey Del,
When you use honey, do you mix it with your gel, and how much do you use?
You also mentioned you use it in the shower - how? What do you find it does for you?

Everyone else,
On applying gel: how do you get even distribution by scrunching?
(I used the Curlisto sectioning method to apply my gel yesterday and the result was not good, but it did insure that I coated all my hair!)

And one final question related to heat & humidity...since where I live it is SO hot, I spend most of my time indoors in the dry coolness of AC. So do you think I should style for the outside or the inside? Does moisture seep in from outside? (I wish I knew what the dew point inside was...)

Thank you!!
Originally Posted by thick_n_wavy
I work indoors, and the weather still affects my hair. It doesn't make sense all of the time, but I style according to the outdoor weather.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
Today our Gulf Coast dew point was 77 degrees. It was the same yesterday and this was my routine-
  • Detangle with LVPNG
  • Rinse with cool water
  • Rake in a dime size of LVPNG as a leave-in
  • Rake in 4- Silver dollar sized dollops of homemade FSG
  • Rake in 2- Quarter sized globs of AMG
  • Scrunch like mad, blot extra water with a flour sack towel
  • Plop for as long as I can
  • Air dry
I had excellent results yesterday. I had no discernable frizz, shine, bounce and no "big" hair. It didn't swell at all. These results lasted all day and into the evening. I went out to a restaurant on the water in the evening. When I got home it was still in great shape. I pineappled and slept on a silk pillowcase. This morning it still looked good but got surface frizz as the day wore on. This was to be expected since I didn't use any product on it. Very happy with my results.

I don't think AMG is as crunchy a hold as BRHG but I think it is comparable for hold. It just feels a bit lighter consistency-wise IMO.
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I have to get a new pic on because my hair is quite a bit longer than when put the pic on - anyway....golfed this morning at 8 AM on our island-- it was 87 degrees 90% humidity -- I don't know how they measure dew points but the marshall who put our clubs in the cart said the dew point was about 85. Of course golfing, my hair is soaked wet and gelled to put under a baseball hat -- have to shield the sun from my head -- fries my brain. Came home, took a shower and soaked it with leave in-CK, homemade FSG and some Biotera -- even though we are air conditiomned to the hilt -- can we say 74 in the house, it wasn't dry when I left even after blotting (plopping) and diffusing. It got nicer in the restaurant we went to for Father's day luncheon as it dried -- all went to hell when I went for a ride with my convertible top down so we'll start again tomorrow with spray KCKT diluted with water and some more FSG - at least with the mixtures I am using I can keep putting more products in and when it gets perfect, then it's time to wet it down for the baseball hat again, but it's still worth living on the beach.....I could be complaining about the rain up north -- LOL!!!
I co washed with Suave Lavender, conditioned with GVP Cond. Balm and used KCCC and BRHG.

It was awful. Patches of frizz when scrunched out. So I guess KCCC isn't for the summer for me at least. But it's not even a high dew point, it was 61. I am not sure if it's my hair... because I've been having pretty bad hair days.

It's weird my hair has also been taking forever to dry. It stays damp it seems.

ETA
I want to add that I just started using LVPNG again. I am not sure if this could be the problem for my hair being frizzy all of a sudden - I didn't use it to days but recently (a day ago was the last time but I had been for awhile). I remember using it before and my hair was frizzy but I thought it was my products but then the products worked again. So it could be that. *shrug*
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Last edited by Residual; 06-21-2009 at 10:40 PM.
Oh the frizz! Personally I think I am washing my hair too much so take this information with that in mind.

On Saturday I used the living proof with ABBA weightless gel over it. I ended up kinda fuzzy and undefined. Dewpoints were in the low 60s. Yesterday I used David Babaii root lifter and then out on some of the sculpting clay with a some BRHG/AOMM mixed together - I scrunched out wayyy too early because we were leaving the house - I think this might have had potential if I could have waited until it dried. Again, the dew points were low 60s.

Today (early morning) the dew point is 57 but it's foggy and the ground is so satuarated by all the rain it feels VERY damp. I am going to try the Babaii combo again today with no early scrunching!
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One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
This thread was a good idea...I'm still mostly frizz free and my dews are 60+ at this point...I've just been washing with a kathymack shampoo bar, using Giovanni smooth as silk conditioner, no leave-in yet, (maybe i'll add some to see what happens), i scrunch out the excess water with my curlease, i scrunch/rake in some CCCC, then layer on some AFG in the same manner, then I plop for 20-30 minutes, then i scrunch in some ABBA firm hold gel...and diffuse. So far so good, the only frizz i have is from pineappling/sleeping...i guess i'll see how long my hair is happy for
Hair Type: 3a with 3b tendencies, medium texture and normal porosity
Shampoo: Giovanni Tea Tree Triple Treat and CJDF
Conditioner/Leave-in: Giovanni 50:50, and Suave Naturals (Just not the Coconut), CALI
Stylers: CJ CCCC, AFG, HESMU
Fotki: http://public.fotki.com/Elphie2983/

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