High Dew Point Product/Support Thread

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I co washed with Suave Lavender, conditioned with GVP Cond. Balm and used KCCC and BRHG.

It was awful. Patches of frizz when scrunched out. So I guess KCCC isn't for the summer for me at least. But it's not even a high dew point, it was 61. I am not sure if it's my hair... because I've been having pretty bad hair days.

It's weird my hair has also been taking forever to dry. It stays damp it seems.

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I want to add that I just started using LVPNG again. I am not sure if this could be the problem for my hair being frizzy all of a sudden - I didn't use it to days but recently (a day ago was the last time but I had been for awhile). I remember using it before and my hair was frizzy but I thought it was my products but then the products worked again. So it could be that. *shrug*
Originally Posted by Residual
Can someone help me? Or give me some advice? Please and thank you.

Well, I always wash my hair in the afternoon/night. I air dry... no plopping or diffusing because they frizz me up. But lately it's taking even longer to dry. Is this due to the higher dew points? I used Lustrasilk as a leave in yesterday so maybe I need no leave in?
Originally Posted by Residual
I bumped your other thread with an answer
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The humidity is 100%, dewpoint is 63. I need ideas; the frizz is mad.
Originally Posted by Suburbanbushbabe
I had wondered if the tighter pattern of type 4 hair would be less prone to frizz in high dew points. I guess everyone gets it.

What are you using right now? Do you like hard hold type gels at all?
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
I don't like the hard holds. Today I used CJ Aloe Fix (after watching Empressri's video). I used it dry second day hair, then spritzed a little then diffused. I don't know why I bothered to diffuse because I spend the afternoon out in the rain and just threw it in a scrunchi. However, my hair didn't frizz! I'm going to use it next time the Way Empress does. I usually use much less. Unfortunately Curlmart is sold out.
Originally Posted by Suburbanbushbabe
I notice that I am using twice as much KCCC as usual ow. Maybe product amount plays a role too. I saw Empress's vid, but I will have to back and refresh my memory.

Both the CJAF and the KCCC have a decent amount of humectant, so I am interested to see how people tolerate them this summer.
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Got 2nd day hair with the KCCC/JoiGel combo. Nice definition, acceptable frizz, but big. I like the look, but the feel takes some getting used to.

Dew points for the rest of the week should be upper 50s to low 60s, which is good. Getting them near 70 is yucky for wimpy ol' me.
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since I have started experimenting with CG, I've been following the dews. They have almost always been over 70. No lie. Say, "thanks coastal florida!"

Anyway, i'm guessing that's why I can't get away with anything without a gel on top. Not only that, my hair is in really bad shape.

I figure frizz is par for course. I just try to make it less frizzy.

My hair is in such a transition stage right now, most of my friends think my hair looks better straight too lol.

I'm going to get it cut tomorrow, I'm desperate. hah.
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Hi my fellow dewies. I just put up a review in the review section, but I wanted to let you all know here that I've tried the John Masters Organics pomade (full of anti humectants) and I'm loving it so far!
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Once the dewpoint reaches 70, it's braids and buns for me! I've tried all kinds of combos, and no matter what I do, I get too much frizz and shrinkage. My hair will come out of hiding in a couple months...LOL
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The dew point is 71 here today. I raked in CJAF then scrunched in some Aussie gel. It looks pretty good. I'm surprised. I've got some frizz but that's a given.

I think you guys are right about not using a leave-in during the summer. It seems to be working for me anyway.
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Mag. Sulfate gives me serious frizz

Loving: JCWDT, KCKT & KCCC

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Hi my fellow dewies. I just put up a review in the review section, but I wanted to let you all know here that I've tried the John Masters Organics pomade (full of anti humectants) and I'm loving it so far!
Originally Posted by SydneyCurl
Cool! How do use it? What products do you use it with and how do you apply it?
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Hi my fellow dewies. I just put up a review in the review section, but I wanted to let you all know here that I've tried the John Masters Organics pomade (full of anti humectants) and I'm loving it so far!
Originally Posted by SydneyCurl
Cool! How do use it? What products do you use it with and how do you apply it?
Originally Posted by thick_n_wavy
Here's the review I posted (I explained what I used and how I used it there): John Masters Organics Pomade
Not Cindy or Sindy or Syndey or any other such abomination.
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I don't really follow dewpoint, but there's no doubt it's been quite high here. It's been hot and muggy lately and my hair's been a wreck. None of my usual tricks or products were working and I was just about to give up and just wear it up until the weather cooled.

But I read RCC's initial posting about using protein, so I decided to do a little experiment. For two days, I used about a quarter's worth of the Sally's knockoff of K-Pak as a leave-in, then smoothed my hair back into a low knot in the back, finished off with a cute headband.

Then on the second day in the evening, I washed with Deva No-Poo and did more of a regular DT with the K-Pak in and left it overnight. In the a.m. I rinsed, conditioned with Elucence MB and styled as usual.

I figured a big problem like that required taking some pretty extreme measures.

It totally did the trick. My hair is quite happy and it's still muggy and I even biked for about an hour with a helmet on and everything. But I have my bouncy happy, curls again.

So it looks like for me at least, using protein helped keep that cuticle down and kept the humidity from getting the best of me.

I always kinda thought of protein as a cold weather and dry hair [from heat styling] kind of thing to do, but no more.

Last edited by wild~hair; 06-26-2009 at 09:51 PM.
I'm glad my ramblings pay off for other people sometimes, lol!
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Protein has been my saving grace in these coastal Florida dews (77 degrees last week!) After seeing Tiffany for a cut and color last month, I discovered my hair was more fine than medium. A weekly shot of the generic K-Pak from Sally's and conditioners with a little protein in them have done the trick. I follow the directions on the K-Pak though. 2-3 minutes in wet hair followed up with a DT of JCWDT. Too much of anything is not good for my hair.

Yesterday, I used LVPNG as a rinse out and a dime's worth as leave-in. Homemade FSG and three quarter size dollops of AMG on top. Squeezed the excess water out with a flour sack towel and tightly plopped in another for a couple of hours. Took it down and smoothed a little AMG over the top and went to the Ray's game. We went early and sat outside a restaurant for happy hour and then walked about 1 mile to the stadium. Granted, the stadium in a dome but after walking our mile back to our car and driving home, my hair was still shiny, bouncey and unfrizzy. I didn't even pineapple last night and upon waking up this morning I don't even have to touch my hair. I would go anywhere this morning without any shame or frustration.

Hate to repeat myself but "balance" is key. Even though our dews are brutal this year, with a good balance of moisture and protein, I have well defined, frizz-free curls and I'm loving them!
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Last edited by mpgirl; 06-27-2009 at 08:46 AM.
Very interesting observation mp...Assuming that wild~hair is on the finer side, It appears that more Protein for the Finer haired gals and more acidic rinses for the coarse ones like me and RCC. hmmmmmm
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KCCC definitely doesn't work. Frizz city and lots and lots of flat, straight patches. I like some frizz, actually (gasp!), but I cannot tolerate straight strands - they drive me batty.

I'm going to experiment with silicones. For some reason I think they might help with dews this high.
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Very interesting observation mp...Assuming that wild~hair is on the finer side, It appears that more Protein for the Finer haired gals and more acidic rinses for the coarse ones like me and RCC. hmmmmmm
Originally Posted by DEL2C
And I do notice that I can take more protein in the summer than in the winter.

I might only need that k-Pak once a month in the winter, bit it might be every two weeks in the summer.

But, yeah, I can use the acid rinses more frequently.
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KCCC definitely doesn't work. Frizz city and lots and lots of flat, straight patches. I like some frizz, actually (gasp!), but I cannot tolerate straight strands - they drive me batty.

I'm going to experiment with silicones. For some reason I think they might help with dews this high.
Originally Posted by masa_inn
Since they are anti-humectants, they should help.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
We are expected to have fog or heavy fog (when it doesn't rain...) tonight. The forcast tells me it won't be cooler then 18 degrees celcius or about 60 F... On the edge of the west european coast!!!
My hair looks like hell, even without any form of humectants... Or maybe nettle tea contains something that works like a humactant?

Ok, this weather is unusual and I hate the lack of oxigen in my lungs more then the fact that my hair has dubbled in size during the day. Just venting a little
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We've had dews in the high 60's, low 70's. I have tried every combination under the sun with the BRHG and KCCC. I finally quit. The only thing my hair seems to like is AOMM. Then I top it with HESMU. WOW! Nice soft, moist curls that last all day. But now I want to touch it all the time! A little coconut oil smoothed over helps to remedy the frizz I get from that. By the way, I have thin, but coarse, dry hair -3b I believe.
2 gels seems to be working for me, a moisturizing soft gel and a regular gel. I've been using Qhemet Honeybush tea hair gel under Theraneem AV gel. My hair is okay with glycerine in the humidity. If I used 2 gels in the winter, I think my hair would crack.
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Very interesting observation mp...Assuming that wild~hair is on the finer side, It appears that more Protein for the Finer haired gals and more acidic rinses for the coarse ones like me and RCC. hmmmmmm
Originally Posted by DEL2C
You are correct in assuming that my hair is very fine.

[I'd previously always thought of it as coarse, but I don't think it actually is, relatively speaking, after hanging out on these boards.]

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