High Dew Point Product/Support Thread

[redcelticcurls]

I see we're getting various threads for products rec for high dew point weather.

I figure that we may was well just have a high dewpoint thread so we can keep our resources in one easier-to-find thread.

As a porous curly, I am working on testing acidic rinses to help keep the cuticle down. The theory is that the cuticle should lie down better so the humidity won't get into raised cuticles as easily.

I am also testing a new hard hold gel - Joico JoiGel.

I'll do a copy paste about it from another thread.

ETA:

Ingredients:

Water (Aqua), VP/VA Copolymer, Hydrolyzed Keratin (Quadramine Complex), Cocodimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Keratin, PEG-8 Dimethicone, Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Oleth-20, Tetrasodium EDTA, Triethanolamine, Benzohenone-4, Propylene Glycol, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Benzyl Benzoate, Hexyl Cinnamal, Limonene, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Fragrance (Parfum).

"JoiGel™ Firm
Designed for: firm-hold gel styling
Benefits:
Provides excellent support, control and shine for styling without flaking.
UV protectants condition and protect against daily environmental stress.
Maximum styling control, body and shine to support hard-to-hold hair"

It worked nicely to give frizz protection over the KCCC. It did dry crunchy, but it all scrunched out easily, and my curls are soooofffftttttttt. I think the combo of the KCCC moisture and the silicone does something for me. Dew point is 70 right now and all is holding up well.

It is less crispy than I remember the BRHG being, and I don;t know if it's hold is as hard when it comes right down to it.

Since I had no adverse reactions, it goes to week long testing before I declare it a keeper!

[IamDonna]

Your the BEST RCC. Will be watching this thread Very closely! Am in dire need for info along this line.
TY
Donna

[redcelticcurls]

We're getting so inundated with humid threads, lol. I just figure it will be easier if we can get everyone on the same thread.

Aside from the various gels we all choose in high humidity, I figure there may be other tricks up some curly sleeves that we need to hear!

[xcptnl]

I am trying Living Proof today. I will report back in.

[curlypearl]

Looking forward to the results of this post. We get summer days in NY which have horrendous dew pts. You feel like you are breathing in steam.

[wavy wonder]

Thanks for posting this thread RCC. This will be a great resource

[carrie640]

Subscribing! Although, I am convinced that on days when the DP is high, NOTHING is going to help entirely!

[Curls=Beauty]

At what point is the dew point considered high?

[DEL2C]

RCC you're the best I was having trouble keeping up with all the humidity threads myself! This was a good combo for me I'll keep experimenting and reporting back.

Dews are a whopping 63!

Low Pooed with EO Honey Cham/EO honey Cham Condish rinse out. No LI today I don't like how it mixes with CK and frankly it just weighs me down when dews are this high!!

CK 4 puddles
FX Fixative Gel 2 Qtrs
BRHG 1 Qtr size

This held up well but I got slightly poofy when it was all dry but still had definition. I also forgot to bring my Honey in the shower *kicks door*

Before Bed I spritzed with Water/Honey spray. Just a drop of honey in a 3oz spritzer I don't want it sticky. Then I added a blob of FOTE smoothed on and scrunched let it dry for an hour. Put it in a pineapple and I got Day 2 that I can wear down. I didn't add anything else this morning and it has plenty of hold. Dews are still a high 62

[redcelticcurls]

Originally Posted by Curls=Beauty

At what point is the dew point considered high?

60-65F (16-18C) is borderline high (but it still feels gross and high to me)
65 and above is high. I know there is a comfort difference between a 70 degree dewpoint and an 80 degree dew point (although both are pretty awful), but I don't know if it makes a big difference in hair beyond that. The DP rarely reaches 80 where I live.

Even 70 is not common here in June, and i have seen 80 already on the Gulf coast, so we are having some unusually high dew points in the eastern US right now.

This morning, even much of the Rocky Mountain area is in the 40s to 50s, which is high for them.

But, for hair issues, the product issues seem to start at around 60.

[carrie640]

Agreed....if it gets to be 60, I hang it up!!

[redcelticcurls]

Are any of you porous curlies trying things besides hard hold gels?

I'm thinking along the lines of acv rinses and similar and protein treatments for those who can handle them. My reasoning is that anything helping to keep the cuticle down should help with frizz reduction.

[DEL2C]

Originally Posted by redcelticcurls

Are any of you porous curlies trying things besides hard hold gels?

I'm thinking along the lines of acv rinses and similar and protein treatments for those who can handle them. My reasoning is that anything helping to keep the cuticle down should help with frizz reduction.

so we are having some unusually high dew points in the eastern US right now.

Is there a pattern here?? We had unusually LOW dews all Winter now this?

if it gets to be 60, I hang it up!!

Why? My best days have been 60-63 so far! Love it!


I'm not sure how often I can ACV or use Dr. Bronners Rinse yet but I'm gonna try using one or the other once a week and see how it goes. I was doing them once every other week during the Winter. I do agree RCC that it helps with frizz reduction and POOF in my case.

[redcelticcurls]

Del, not everyone has the same product working knowledge as you do, lol. 60 can be uncontrollable for quite a few.

If we all looked good at 60, I wouldn't need to start this thread.

I think I am going to try the acid rinse weekly as long as it does not become too drying. But, the high dew points may help prevent that.

I, too, wondered if there was some pattern! It was unusually dry last winter. And, I'm fairly sure we didn't have dew points in the 80s so much so early. Dew points were fairly common talk here last summer.

[carrie640]

I have a friend who lived in Dallas and is now in Jonesboro and she, too, does well when DPs are high....not me...not at all. When it gets to be 60+, I am done for. Just probably depends upon the person.

Now the thing with the cuticle...ACV doesn't always make it for me. Sometimes my hair loves it...other times it doesn't.

I've even tried the cold-water rinses. Sometimes it works..other times it doesn't. I am truly convinced my hair will do what it wants...when it wants....no matter what I do to try and change its mind.

[redcelticcurls]

Originally Posted by carrie640

I have a friend who lived in Dallas and is now in Jonesboro and she, too, does well when DPs are high....not me...not at all. When it gets to be 60+, I am done for. Just probably depends upon the person.

Now the thing with the cuticle...ACV doesn't always make it for me. Sometimes my hair loves it...other times it doesn't.

I've even tried the cold-water rinses. Sometimes it works..other times it doesn't. I am truly convinced my hair will do what it wants...when it wants....no matter what I do to try and change its mind.

Curls do have that tendency, but I do think that routine tweaking and type of cut plays much more into this than we realize.

[DEL2C]

If we all looked good at 60, I wouldn't need to start this thread

I plan on being HAWT when I'm 60 Oh right, we're talking dew points though aren't we.....

Now the thing with the cuticle...ACV doesn't always make it for me. Sometimes my hair loves it...other times it doesn't.

You might like Dr. Bronners Shikakai rinse better. There's a thread on the Product Reviews--It's not for everyone but you never know..

Curls do have that tendency, but I do think that routine tweaking and type of cut plays much more into this than we realize.

This is true, one thing I'm realizing (not sure if it's higher dews it might be) is I can't do lots of Water Spritzing on Day 2 or I frizz. A little Butter or Gel and if it still doesn't do what I want I have to live with it or wash. I do remember in the CG handbook that it was suggested on Rainy days it might be better to wash the try to re-wet and style.

[Curls=Beauty]

Originally Posted by redcelticcurls

60-65F (16-18C) is borderline high (but it still feels gross and high to me)
65 and above is high. I know there is a comfort difference between a 70 degree dewpoint and an 80 degree dew point (although both are pretty awful), but I don't know if it makes a big difference in hair beyond that. The DP rarely reaches 80 where I live.

Even 70 is not common here in June, and i have seen 80 already on the Gulf coast, so we are having some unusually high dew points in the eastern US right now.

This morning, even much of the Rocky Mountain area is in the 40s to 50s, which is high for them.

But, for hair issues, the product issues seem to start at around 60.

Oh, okay.
Dew points here are almost always 65 degrees and up during late Spring and Summer. Right now it is 69.

[jillipoo]

Thanks for this, RCC! I'm subscribing but I have nothing to contribute, as dews rarely get above 55 here. But I'll be traveling to New York next summer, so I'm curious to read about what everybody is using to combat frizz. (I just bought some Living Proof. Should be here in a week or so.)

[redcelticcurls]

Originally Posted by jillipoo

Thanks for this, RCC! I'm subscribing but I have nothing to contribute, as dews rarely get above 55 here. But I'll be traveling to New York next summer, so I'm curious to read about what everybody is using to combat frizz. (I just bought some Living Proof. Should be here in a week or so.)

Hey, it's all relative.

For some of the posters who are used to 30-40, 55 may throw them off enough to come take a peek!