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tinah 07-18-2009 04:39 PM

Protein strength questions...
 
Is there any list somewhere - or maybe someone knows - the difference in strengths of protein treatments and conditioners?

I am assuming the that Aphogee 2 step treatment is basically the mother of all protein treatments. But under that... is K pak a stronger treatment than say Emergencee? Or the Aphogee 2 min. treatment?

And what about conditioners? I know AOGPB has a lot of protein in it. What would you say the amount of protein in Suave Coconut co is or LVPNG? Is the suave very light on protein? Can someone give me some direction on this?

mpgirl 07-18-2009 06:12 PM

There is no list to my knowledge. Most of us look at the order of ingredients. The higher up on the list, the more of that ingredient.

If the protein is half way down the list of 23 ingredients, there is some but probably not a really high amount. If it is in the first 5 ingredients, there is quite a bit. If it is near the bottom, then I wouldn't even worry about it.

I would also look to see how many different proteins are being used. A product with 3 different proteins might be significant. Some of the marine protein products tend toward the multiples.

Remember, ingredients that start with Hydrolized are most likely protein.

HTH.

curlykinkynfrizzy? 07-18-2009 08:58 PM

OP these are questions I'd like to know the answer to as well! I have the Aphogee 2 step treatment, Joico K pak reconstructor and Nexxus Emergencee. Idk which is the strongest. But for some reason I like Joico the best. I couldn't stand the smell of Aphogee and the way it's so messy/drippy and made my skin sticky. Emergencee is ok but it's such a small bottle!

I did get good curl definition after using Aphogee though and I seemed to always have good hair days with Joico products (a lot of them are not CG btw), which is why I'm going back to them.

I hope someone else chimes in to give us answers!

redcelticcurls 07-18-2009 11:09 PM

Good question.

This is just my opinion, and it isn't all that research based.

The Aphogee 2-step is pretty intensive, and I don't know what else matches it.

I've always thought of the K-pak and Emergencee as being similar in intensity. But, since they use different protein sources, they may well react differently on people depending on individual tolerance.

I don't think of the 2-step as something to use lightly or weekly. It's good for fixing damage though, and I do read of a fair amount of people who use it monthly or every 6 weeks.

The K-pak and Emergencee seem to be the types that can be used weekly or semi-weekly, or as an occasional hit to perk up droopy curls.

I personally consider the GPB more than a regular protein heavy conditioner, but no quite a treatment. Others would probably consider it a treatment. I never know how to count that one.

Suave C. and LVPNG, I'd consider mod to high protein for a regular conditioner. There is enough in there for the moderately protein averse to get a reaction from it with consistent use. But, for others, this is a good thing.

kathymack 07-19-2009 04:55 AM

I don't use the K-Pak because of the mineral oil. I do use three of the Nexxus protein treatments:

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...ad.php?t=78402

For a "light" treatment, the Aloxxi Botanical is great and easy. My favorite is the Aloxxi Emergency. I use so little of the two Emergencee(y)s, that the 3.3 ounce Emergency lasted me over a year using it monthly. I think that is about $1 a use. Can't beat that. I don't have a lot of hair--so it might be a little more per treatment. They are so easy to use, smell fine--I gave up the homemade protein treatments.

NicaCurls 07-21-2009 12:23 AM

Suave Coconut has protein? I didn't see it in the ingredients. Is it the silk amino acids?

mpgirl 07-21-2009 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicaCurls (Post 1034897)
Suave Coconut has protein? I didn't see it in the ingredients. Is it the silk amino acids?

Yes.

kathymack 07-21-2009 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicaCurls (Post 1034897)
Suave Coconut has protein? I didn't see it in the ingredients. Is it the silk amino acids?

Also if you see the word hydrolyzed.


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