Protein strength questions...

Is there any list somewhere - or maybe someone knows - the difference in strengths of protein treatments and conditioners?

I am assuming the that Aphogee 2 step treatment is basically the mother of all protein treatments. But under that... is K pak a stronger treatment than say Emergencee? Or the Aphogee 2 min. treatment?

And what about conditioners? I know AOGPB has a lot of protein in it. What would you say the amount of protein in Suave Coconut co is or LVPNG? Is the suave very light on protein? Can someone give me some direction on this?
CG - 3/27/09
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Styling: lube and BRHG
There is no list to my knowledge. Most of us look at the order of ingredients. The higher up on the list, the more of that ingredient.

If the protein is half way down the list of 23 ingredients, there is some but probably not a really high amount. If it is in the first 5 ingredients, there is quite a bit. If it is near the bottom, then I wouldn't even worry about it.

I would also look to see how many different proteins are being used. A product with 3 different proteins might be significant. Some of the marine protein products tend toward the multiples.

Remember, ingredients that start with Hydrolized are most likely protein.

HTH.
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Renpure Organics conditioner/leave-in
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OP these are questions I'd like to know the answer to as well! I have the Aphogee 2 step treatment, Joico K pak reconstructor and Nexxus Emergencee. Idk which is the strongest. But for some reason I like Joico the best. I couldn't stand the smell of Aphogee and the way it's so messy/drippy and made my skin sticky. Emergencee is ok but it's such a small bottle!

I did get good curl definition after using Aphogee though and I seemed to always have good hair days with Joico products (a lot of them are not CG btw), which is why I'm going back to them.

I hope someone else chimes in to give us answers!
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Good question.

This is just my opinion, and it isn't all that research based.

The Aphogee 2-step is pretty intensive, and I don't know what else matches it.

I've always thought of the K-pak and Emergencee as being similar in intensity. But, since they use different protein sources, they may well react differently on people depending on individual tolerance.

I don't think of the 2-step as something to use lightly or weekly. It's good for fixing damage though, and I do read of a fair amount of people who use it monthly or every 6 weeks.

The K-pak and Emergencee seem to be the types that can be used weekly or semi-weekly, or as an occasional hit to perk up droopy curls.

I personally consider the GPB more than a regular protein heavy conditioner, but no quite a treatment. Others would probably consider it a treatment. I never know how to count that one.

Suave C. and LVPNG, I'd consider mod to high protein for a regular conditioner. There is enough in there for the moderately protein averse to get a reaction from it with consistent use. But, for others, this is a good thing.
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I don't use the K-Pak because of the mineral oil. I do use three of the Nexxus protein treatments:

Nexxus Protein Treatments

For a "light" treatment, the Aloxxi Botanical is great and easy. My favorite is the Aloxxi Emergency. I use so little of the two Emergencee(y)s, that the 3.3 ounce Emergency lasted me over a year using it monthly. I think that is about $1 a use. Can't beat that. I don't have a lot of hair--so it might be a little more per treatment. They are so easy to use, smell fine--I gave up the homemade protein treatments.
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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
Suave Coconut has protein? I didn't see it in the ingredients. Is it the silk amino acids?
Pacific Northwest 3a/3b, medium all across the board, possibly porous.

Low-Poo: Trader Joe's Refresh
Co-wash: V05 Tea Therapy Chamomile, Giovanni TTTT
Rinse-out: GVP Conditioning Balm, Yes to Tomatoes, EO Chamomile & Honey
Leave-in: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab, Sonoma Soap Company First Crush
Deep Treatment: Jessicurl WDT
Gels: BRHG, Biotera
Stylers/Mousses: Komaza Coconut Pudding, Curls Goddess Glaze
Suave Coconut has protein? I didn't see it in the ingredients. Is it the silk amino acids?
Originally Posted by NicaCurls
Yes.
3b spirals, fine texture, normal porosity, dense
Picasa:
Link
Deva Low Poo
Suave Naturals Coconut for detangling
Renpure Organics conditioner/leave-in
Homemade FSG
KCCC
Curl Junkie Stuff
BRHG


Nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect.
-wabi-sabi

Suave Coconut has protein? I didn't see it in the ingredients. Is it the silk amino acids?
Originally Posted by NicaCurls
Also if you see the word hydrolyzed.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams

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