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Old 07-20-2009, 10:42 AM   #1
 
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Default Set gel with a diffuser? *UPDATED WITH PICS*

Does anyone do this?

I'm still trying to find that perfect hold for my hair. Got a new gel, didn't get any better. This morning I decided to try MORE gel, got nice ringlets that sure enough by the time they dried they were nice and deflated. My hair is just so

I don't diffuse cause I usually use mousse which doesn't seem to like diffusing... but I was wondering...

What if I used the gel and diffused it just long enough to get it stiff so it didn't fall as it dried? I get up at 4 am, so full on diffusing isn't an option.

Does anybody do this? Thoughts?


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The first pic is yesterdays after it fell for the trillionth time. The second one is today with the quick diffuse set (my first attempt)... AND it's still curlier after I did a deep treatment (which usually is a sure fire flat hair day).


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Does anyone do this?

I'm still trying to find that perfect hold for my hair. Got a new gel, didn't get any better. This morning I decided to try MORE gel, got nice ringlets that sure enough by the time they dried they were nice and deflated. My hair is just so

I don't diffuse cause I usually use mousse which doesn't seem to like diffusing... but I was wondering...

What if I used the gel and diffused it just long enough to get it stiff so it didn't fall as it dried? I get up at 4 am, so full on diffusing isn't an option.

Does anybody do this? Thoughts?
I do this a lot. I diffuse long enough for the gel to get a little crunchy, then I let it air dry for as long as I can, then diffuse a little more until it's dry and then sotc. It keeps my hair from getting all messed up and frizzy while it's drying.
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[quote=IzzyTheTerrible;1034010]Does anyone do this?

I'm still trying to find that perfect hold for my hair. Got a new gel, didn't get any better. This morning I decided to try MORE gel, got nice ringlets that sure enough by the time they dried they were nice and deflated. My hair is just so

I don't diffuse cause I usually use mousse which doesn't seem to like diffusing... but I was wondering...

What if I used the gel and diffused it just long enough to get it stiff so it didn't fall as it dried? I get up at 4 am, so full on diffusing isn't an option.

Does anybody do this? Thoughts?[/quote
I use LA Looks Sport and diffuser every time. It works great.
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I do this almost every morning!
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Does anyone do this?

I'm still trying to find that perfect hold for my hair. Got a new gel, didn't get any better. This morning I decided to try MORE gel, got nice ringlets that sure enough by the time they dried they were nice and deflated. My hair is just so

I don't diffuse cause I usually use mousse which doesn't seem to like diffusing... but I was wondering...

What if I used the gel and diffused it just long enough to get it stiff so it didn't fall as it dried? I get up at 4 am, so full on diffusing isn't an option.

Does anybody do this? Thoughts?
I do this a lot. I diffuse long enough for the gel to get a little crunchy, then I let it air dry for as long as I can, then diffuse a little more until it's dry and then sotc. It keeps my hair from getting all messed up and frizzy while it's drying.
I get a little bit of a helmet head effect when I try this (you know that Pez head/Lego character one piece hair that Looks great but molded and doesnt move??)

I do the reverse. I apply gel then let it air dry a scant 10-20 minutes then I diffuse (full on air drying gives me too much volume). This sets my gel but my curls dry soft and flowier.
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Whenever I use gel, I diffuse at least a couple minutes to "set" it. It started out that I wanted to diffuse to get it a little drier before I went into work, but one day I tried to skip the diffusing and my hair looked pretty bad...I think I need those couple minutes just to get everything set up and a little drier/lighter before it air-dries the rest of the way.
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I tried it today, and kept my fingers crossed! It held up a lot better today! I diffused it for just about 5-10 minutes, just long enough to get crunchy some. Worked great! I held the curl while it finished drying. . Thanks for everyone's input
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updated with some pics, sorry for the quality/lighting/size/etc. LOL

But thanks everyone for the input.
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I might be misunderstanding your message but it sounds like you are saying that you don't have time to diffuse for very long.

Just a note, my understanding of diffusing and how I do it takes almost no time...2 minutes tops. I do 30 seconds per side of my head and then let is air dry the rest of the way. It isn't recommended that you diffuse til your hair is completely dry or it is a big frizzy mess.

As a fellow wavy, I can tall you that I get a lot more definition from diffusing than I do from air drying. I do it everyday now.

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Does anyone do this?

I'm still trying to find that perfect hold for my hair. Got a new gel, didn't get any better. This morning I decided to try MORE gel, got nice ringlets that sure enough by the time they dried they were nice and deflated. My hair is just so

I don't diffuse cause I usually use mousse which doesn't seem to like diffusing... but I was wondering...

What if I used the gel and diffused it just long enough to get it stiff so it didn't fall as it dried? I get up at 4 am, so full on diffusing isn't an option.

Does anybody do this? Thoughts?


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The first pic is yesterdays after it fell for the trillionth time. The second one is today with the quick diffuse set (my first attempt)... AND it's still curlier after I did a deep treatment (which usually is a sure fire flat hair day).


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Old 07-21-2009, 11:31 AM   #10
 
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My hair is almost to my waist so it took a while getting the hang of it, but it sounds like you are doing exactly what I was referring to. I'm sold though, and I'm sure next time will be easier and take less time.

(Note: Almost to your waist hair is noooot easy to upside down diffuse. Lesson learned. lol)
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It isn't recommended that you diffuse til your hair is completely dry or it is a big frizzy mess.
I diffuse my hair til its about 90% dry and I've never ended up with a frizzy mess. For me, only diffusing for a couple of minutes and air drying the rest pulls out my waves and almost ensures frizz. I diffuse for 10-15 min to set the gel and ensure crunch.
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What's your routine? Are you putting the gel in while your hair is soaking wet? What gel are you using?
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What's your routine? Are you putting the gel in while your hair is soaking wet? What gel are you using?
I don't really have a routine as of yet, I'm still experimenting.

Every day I try something new. This particular one was:

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Smooth and scrunch gel (Just started using a Generic Value one)
Plop for 20 (while I walk the dogs lol)

Tried upside down pixie diffuse - total failure, hair's too long. Did side to side sectioned diffuse, managed to do that ok, again pixie style. Just for about 30 - 1 minute per section.

Let air dry. Upside down SOTC.
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Maybe a stronger hold gel would work better? Have you tried the BRHG? They might hold the curl better while it's drying.
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I'm trying to find that magic balance between hold and not weighing my fine/long hair down. The one I just used was a lighter one recommended by the site under the "Fine curlies" article.

I'm hoping that Struttswife will be able to help me more, but I'm guessing since the diffuse to a crunch thing worked, I'll be able to use stuff a little heavier. We shall see though!

If only they would make a magic mousse with gel hold!
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It isn't recommended that you diffuse til your hair is completely dry or it is a big frizzy mess.
I diffuse my hair til its about 90% dry and I've never ended up with a frizzy mess. For me, only diffusing for a couple of minutes and air drying the rest pulls out my waves and almost ensures frizz. I diffuse for 10-15 min to set the gel and ensure crunch.
Oh the science of this curly hair stuff....the minute you have found a good rule, there is always a million exceptions I definitely get frizzy from over diffusing....but thanks for pointing out Helloitsio that that isn't the case for everyone
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if i don't diffuse to a crunch then my hair is a total flop.
the more i diffuse, the more wave i get. i try to diffuse to 100% and let it sit for a while till i SOTC. i don't have any problems with frizz.
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I'm trying to find that magic balance between hold and not weighing my fine/long hair down. The one I just used was a lighter one recommended by the site under the "Fine curlies" article.

I'm hoping that Struttswife will be able to help me more, but I'm guessing since the diffuse to a crunch thing worked, I'll be able to use stuff a little heavier. We shall see though!

If only they would make a magic mousse with gel hold!
Have you tried Joiwhip? That's one mousse that I have found to have close to a gel hold.
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Have you tried Joiwhip? That's one mousse that I have found to have close to a gel hold.

Hmmmmm.... NO! But I shall have to give it a try. Thanks!
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Default Joiwhip is one of my favorites

It was the ONLY product left still standing after my mass clean out last week when we started CG.

It does not work on my daughters hair but hers is more 3a/b. Mine is more 2c ish or so (I think it's not real sure yet...I have some spirals and the underside of my hair is ringlets but the top crown is much straighter...who knows how it will turn out!)

It provides a pretty good hold for me.

I will say not so great on the 2nd day hair for me today though...but I scrunched with a bit of conditioner this morning which was a mistake and weighed my hair down..plus my hair wants to do some weird things right now! LOL!
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