shampoo ingredients?

Does anyone see anything that could be drying in these ingredients and which one looks better as far as the two:

Water, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Dimethicone, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Cocamide MIPA, Distearyl Ether, Sodium Chloride, Behenyl Alcohol, Laureth 2, PPG 5 Ceteth 20, Pyrus Malus Fruit Extract (Apple), Fragrance, Sodium Methylparaben, Carbomer, DMDM Hydantoin, Niacinamide, Pyridoxine HCl, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Citric Acid, Saccharum Officinarum Extract (Sugar Cane), Citrus Medica Limonum Peel Extract (Lemon), Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract

the second one:
Aqua/Water, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Disodium Cocamphodiacetate, Glycol Distearate, Cocamide MIPA, Sodium Chloride, Hexylene Glycol, Disodium Ricinoleamido MEA Sulfosuccinate, Perfume (Fragrance), Carbomer, Disodium EDTA, Methylparaben, Polyquaternium 10, DMDM Hydantoin, Benzophenone 3, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Hexyl Cinnamal, Benzyl Salicylate, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Tocopherol, Isopropanolamine, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Linalool, Amyl Cinnamal, Hydroxycitronellal, Limonene
PW:curlyhaired

Natural hair color - dark brunette
Fine, thinish hair/3a, 3b
They're both drying.
April
3a/b, med texture, med porosity, low dews



Which ingredient is drying? I NEED the SLS for my hair. I've tried all the low poos, no poos and those were a waste of money for my hair. I was a slimy, weighted down grease ball.
I'm looking for a color treated hair shampoo - drugstore preferred.
PW:curlyhaired

Natural hair color - dark brunette
Fine, thinish hair/3a, 3b
Well the problem is that any SLS or sulfate shampoo isn't going to be gentle for colored hair. Sulfates by nature are harsh detergents. So they're gonna strip the natural oils from your hair along with the color. What sulfate free shampoos have you tried that left you all greasy? I have a list of ones that are pretty drying on my hair that might work for you and would be more gentle than the sulfates in the ones listed above.
CG - 3/27/09
3b - dry - medium texture/medium porosity!
Co wash/rinseout/leave in: currently auditioning products
Styling: lube and BRHG
I've tried the deva line, loreal ones, some of the soap bars.
PW:curlyhaired

Natural hair color - dark brunette
Fine, thinish hair/3a, 3b
Hmmm - the Giovanni 50:50 shampoo is clarifying/moisturizing low poo. That might help to keep you from getting oily. Is that the issue? You're getting oily too fast after using them?

Did you try the Everpure "moisturizing" shampoo? I've heard it's the least moisturizing out of the line and it leaves my already dry hair feeling really dried out. There's also the vitamin shampoo which are sulfate free and naked naturals one with cirtus might work too. If you need the shampoo part I'd try out the all the sulfate-free shampoos you can find before going to sulfates. I say this only because for me personally when I stopped using sulfate shampoos my hair stopped falling out in handfuls. Which has pretty much made me sure that I don't ever want too use a sulfate shampoo again.

There's also going to be a little bit of transition time with any sulfate free shampoo too. It's not going to strip all the oil out of your hair but your hair will be used to having all the oil stripped out and will continue to over compensate with oil production for a little while until it realzies it no longer needs to produce quite so much oil.
CG - 3/27/09
3b - dry - medium texture/medium porosity!
Co wash/rinseout/leave in: currently auditioning products
Styling: lube and BRHG

Last edited by tinah; 07-21-2009 at 01:31 PM.
Everpure was one of the worst. Yes,oily but they all felt like they built up after a few days. Gunky, heavy - just gross. And I was using NO styling products at the time. I tried holding out on the oil producing time frame and after 4 weeks, I couldn't do it. I couldn't leave the house looking like that. It looked like I hadn't washed my hair at all and my scalp was itching like crazy.
Is the naked naturals like the everpure??
PW:curlyhaired

Natural hair color - dark brunette
Fine, thinish hair/3a, 3b
I haven't tried the Naked Naturals line yet. But I'm really wanting to. I've heard that it's a very good line. I hated the Everpure. It made me itch like crazy. And it has some silicones in it too which I don't want.

I've heard nothing but good things about the nake naturals line. Right now I'm using the Samy Pure smooth and shine shampoo. It's the best I've found so far. It feels really good and doesn't seem to dry my hair out at all. The smell just isn't my favorite. You can get it at walgreens.

are you looking to avoid cones too? For a gentle sulfate shampoo I really like the GVP version of Nexxus Therapee. It seems to be fairly gently for a sulfate shampoo.
CG - 3/27/09
3b - dry - medium texture/medium porosity!
Co wash/rinseout/leave in: currently auditioning products
Styling: lube and BRHG
where do you get the naked naturals? I'm not sure about cones - not sure if they will build up on me since I had stayed away from them in the past. Never heard of Samy pure.

I haven't tried the Naked Naturals line yet. But I'm really wanting to. I've heard that it's a very good line. I hated the Everpure. It made me itch like crazy. And it has some silicones in it too which I don't want.

I've heard nothing but good things about the nake naturals line. Right now I'm using the Samy Pure smooth and shine shampoo. It's the best I've found so far. It feels really good and doesn't seem to dry my hair out at all. The smell just isn't my favorite. You can get it at walgreens.

are you looking to avoid cones too? For a gentle sulfate shampoo I really like the GVP version of Nexxus Therapee. It seems to be fairly gently for a sulfate shampoo.
Originally Posted by tinah
PW:curlyhaired

Natural hair color - dark brunette
Fine, thinish hair/3a, 3b
oh... can't use samy pure - it has wheat protein in it
PW:curlyhaired

Natural hair color - dark brunette
Fine, thinish hair/3a, 3b
Naked naturals is sold in Walgreens and CVS. I don't know if Target carries it but I know my wal mart doesn't. those are the only two drug stores around me so I don't know if maybe rite aid or another large chain would carry it. You'd have to check.

When I run out of my Samy I'm going to give it a try. I have just got to start using up some things before I go buy more stuff! I'm starting to run out of room! LOL!! If you try the naked naturals stuff let me know how you like it. I hope you find something that works for you!
CG - 3/27/09
3b - dry - medium texture/medium porosity!
Co wash/rinseout/leave in: currently auditioning products
Styling: lube and BRHG
I havenít read about those ingredients being bad for hair, so you should be fine. Iíve never thought about using conditioner to wash hair, since I didnít think it had any cleansing ingredients in it to clean hair.
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The drying things I can see are in bold, the things that might stop moisture from getting into your hair in the first place are in italics. (I'm sure there's more - for some people, Coco Betaine is drying, and some find things like polyquats build up and prevent moisturisation much in the same way cones do). If you've only got these two to choose from, I'd use the second, since at least it doesn't have a cone, which won't help matters where moisturising is concerned.

Does anyone see anything that could be drying in these ingredients and which one looks better as far as the two:

Water, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Dimethicone, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Cocamide MIPA, Distearyl Ether, Sodium Chloride, Behenyl Alcohol, Laureth 2, PPG 5 Ceteth 20, Pyrus Malus Fruit Extract (Apple), Fragrance, Sodium Methylparaben, Carbomer, DMDM Hydantoin, Niacinamide, Pyridoxine HCl, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Citric Acid, Saccharum Officinarum Extract (Sugar Cane), Citrus Medica Limonum Peel Extract (Lemon), Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract

the second one:
Aqua/Water, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Disodium Cocamphodiacetate, Glycol Distearate, Cocamide MIPA, Sodium Chloride, Hexylene Glycol, Disodium Ricinoleamido MEA Sulfosuccinate, Perfume (Fragrance), Carbomer, Disodium EDTA, Methylparaben, Polyquaternium 10, DMDM Hydantoin, Benzophenone 3, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Hexyl Cinnamal, Benzyl Salicylate, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Tocopherol, Isopropanolamine, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Linalool, Amyl Cinnamal, Hydroxycitronellal, Limonene
Originally Posted by Darby
You can counteract the drying actions of the SLS with a really, really moisturising conditioner - if you need the SLS in the case of really greasy hair. What conditioner are you using?
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
If you don't mind me asking, if you have fine, thin hair, why are you avoiding proteins?
3b spirals, fine texture, normal porosity, dense
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Deva Low Poo
Suave Naturals Coconut for detangling
Renpure Organics conditioner/leave-in
Homemade FSG
KCCC
Curl Junkie Stuff
BRHG


Nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect.
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I can give you some ideas of sulfate-free shampoos that felt like I almost used dish soap to cleanse with if that's what you're after.

Karen's Body Beautiful
Organix
Mastey
Johnson & Johnson

OK, so it was probably an exaggeration that they were that strong. But they didn't feel moisturizing if that's what you're after.

Last edited by lazy loops; 07-27-2009 at 04:04 PM.
I can give you some ideas of sulfate-free shampoos that felt like I almost used dish soap to cleanse with if that's what you're after.
Originally Posted by lazy loops
I know it's probably not appropriate (or helpful), but LOL!
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
I can give you some ideas of sulfate-free shampoos that felt like I almost used dish soap to cleanse with if that's what you're after.

Karen's Body Beautiful
Organix
Mastey
Johnson & Johnson
Originally Posted by lazy loops
I completely agree with the Organix and Johnson & Johnson. They dried out my hair and made it feel even more straw-like. In fact, I found them even worse than sulphates! I think it has to do with the pH levels. I never tried/heard of the other two.
Wavy, dry, protein sensitive, coarse, highly overly porus, very low elasticity, medium-thick density, very prone to split ends
Avoids: Sulphates, Silicones, Protein, Mineral oil, Petroleum, Polyquaternium, Sodium/Magnesium, Heat
Mod-CG since June 2007
I can give you some ideas of sulfate-free shampoos that felt like I almost used dish soap to cleanse with if that's what you're after.
Originally Posted by lazy loops
I know it's probably not appropriate (or helpful), but LOL!
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Oh my. I hope my post didn't come across as nasty!

I thought if she tried something I found to be not so gentle, that would take care of the greasy/oily too moisturizing problems she's found with sulfate-free shampoos in the past.
I can give you some ideas of sulfate-free shampoos that felt like I almost used dish soap to cleanse with if that's what you're after.
Originally Posted by lazy loops
I know it's probably not appropriate (or helpful), but LOL!
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Oh my. I hope my post didn't come across as nasty!

I thought if she tried something I found to be not so gentle, that would take care of the greasy/oily too moisturizing problems she's found with sulfate-free shampoos in the past.
Originally Posted by lazy loops
You came off just fine. I think oddity was referring to her own remarks.

I'm glad you posted a list of ones that didn't work. Makes my list smaller!
CG - 3/27/09
3b - dry - medium texture/medium porosity!
Co wash/rinseout/leave in: currently auditioning products
Styling: lube and BRHG
I just wanted to let you know that I use -laureth sulfate several times a week with no problems.

I do try to stay away from dimethicone but only because my hair is fine and it weighs it down.

Of the Naked Naturals, the only good one is supposed to be the Smoothing one. I use it sometimes. It's not been as drying or yucky as other sulfate-free or low-sulfates I've tried, but it's not my HG either. (It's very thick and doesn't smell bad, yet has an odd scent that lingers).

The only low poo I've ever liked is Jessicurl Gentle Lather.

ETA: I've decided that a lot of the low or sulfate-frees pull out my color. I use Nexxus Color Assure or Therappe. I buy them at Walmart.

Last edited by Wiggilyhair; 07-22-2009 at 01:51 PM.

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