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Old 07-29-2009, 08:58 PM   #181
 
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My hair is usually pretty clumpy, but this really did help with my clump factor today. Wonder how I can translate this into a salon environment to experiment without flooding the place out?
I was thinking that today too as I see my stylist next month and she is always interested in the new techniques I have learned. Let me know if you come up with an idea
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another successful day of clumps with the SS method. I also did a loose plop and blow dried while in plop formation, just for 10 mins, but the heat while in plop did a gerat job. Got a compliment from a teenager on how good it looked.

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The dewpoint (71) ruined the 1/2 way decent hair day that I posted about above. I have been using honey in my rinse out condish and I think the dewpoint reached the point of bad when it comes to honey. Prior to today it was working well.
here's to dew points I used CK & my honey rinse had a fab day and didn't touch my diffuser!

I know I'm a freak though......

Jess that's awesome that it's working for you, I had a feeling you were experimenting, reading and being methodical
Trust me - under the frizzies were great clumpy super soaker curls. You can see the frizz in my earlier post but it did get a bit more intense but that is because I did not use BHRG (I am trying to branch out and use other gels) and I am still trying to get the total hang of getting all my products distributed with this new method.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:13 AM   #184
 
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Smile Super Soaker method rocks!!

I just had to weigh in...the super soaker method works GREAT for me too! Thanks Rudeechick! I just had to try it a couple times before commenting...since it seems like nothing ever works on my hair twice..but this does!

This may have been said somewhere else on this thread..but my experience has been that "super soaking" with COLD water works best for me and cuts down on the canopy frizz. Only downside is that it takes even longer to dry.
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Another vote for Super Soaker for the thread title - it'll be your claim to fame, LOL!

Forgot to take my leave-in and curl cream to the bathroom with me, so I still didn't do it at the sink, however, when I sprayed it as I've been doing, I really, really soaked it to try to duplicate the same effect (didn't want to waste time and allow drying to begin while gathering everything up to take to the sink, so just plopped down at the dressing table where I do it all normally). Anyway, it was definitely more clumpy and ringlety than usual, but, unfortunately, I had an early meeting and had to SOTC and style before it was bone dry, so I got more frizz than I normally do.

Still, very promising! Will try to do it by the book over the weekend. Can't wait til my layers grown out more so that I can get even better ringlet action - they're still a little short right now (looks as long as my avatar to anyone else, but it really isn't).

For those taking longer to dry, I first plopped with a microfiber towel (that's not what I usually use) since I knew it would draw out more water, left it on for maybe five minutes while I moisturized, removed it then re-plopped with my Curlease towel and left it up for maybe 10 minutes while I dressed and gave my dog some meds, then diffused maybe 5 minutes, clipped the top, diffused <5 more, and hit the road. Overall, it dried just as quickly as it ever does - it would never be totally dry by the time I had to scrunch it out today, even with the heater and blower on high in the car.
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Hooray auntnett and KKurls!!

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Oooh!! Where have I been while this thread has been going on! Im convinced, off to try it right now....
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Hey, you do what I do. Well, for the most part anyway. I don't scrunch the water into my hair. I use a normal conair brush, which I then wet and brush through my hair until I see the clumps that I want and the right amount of moisture. If my hair isn't soaking wet when I scrunch in gel, I get frizz and poor definition.
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Hey, you do what I do. Well, for the most part anyway. I don't scrunch the water into my hair. I use a normal conair brush, which I then wet and brush through my hair until I see the clumps that I want and the right amount of moisture. If my hair isn't soaking wet when I scrunch in gel, I get frizz and poor definition.
Please be careful with the Conair brush! I have one Conair and one Denman and the Conair snags my hair alot!
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Rudee, Rudee, Rudee...what can I say? Thanks to you, I just had the best curly hair day EVER. And I mean EVER. The defined spirally hair I secretly hoped I possessed but never knew for sure.

I almost didn't do super-soaker today, because I had to get on a flight this morning. And in fact it did take my hair a full 4 hours to dry. (Even after 4 hours, it was still a bit damp in the back). But it was so worth it. I wish I had a camera with me to capture the moment.

This method really works great with CJ products, BTW. Both times I've done it, my routine has been:

CJ CCCC + water + plop + Abba gel + wait to dry + CJ AF smoothed on top of dry hair to calm surface frizz

So thank you, thank you, thank you, Rudee!!! You're fabulous!
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Rudee, Rudee, Rudee...what can I say? Thanks to you, I just had the best curly hair day EVER. And I mean EVER. The defined spirally hair I secretly hoped I possessed but never knew for sure.

I almost didn't do super-soaker today, because I had to get on a flight this morning. And in fact it did take my hair a full 4 hours to dry. (Even after 4 hours, it was still a bit damp in the back). But it was so worth it. I wish I had a camera with me to capture the moment.

This method really works great with CJ products, BTW. Both times I've done it, my routine has been:

CJ CCCC + water + plop + Abba gel + wait to dry + CJ AF smoothed on top of dry hair to calm surface frizz

So thank you, thank you, thank you, Rudee!!! You're fabulous!
Wow! I couldnt be happier for you! Its the best feeling to love how your hair is looking! Cant wait to see pics when you get the chance to snap some!
Rock those Clumps Bay-beeee!!!
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This method really works great with CJ products, BTW. Both times I've done it, my routine has been:

CJ CCCC + water + plop + Abba gel + wait to dry + CJ AF smoothed on top of dry hair to calm surface frizz
I agree. When I've used this with CCCC and SG, I had great results. I used it last night with Komaza curl pudding and the curl formation or clumps wasn't as good - but better than otherwise!
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For those who use this method in the shower a water flow control connector make this so much easier and alot less messy. I just cut the water flow comb or finger comb out any tangles upside down and then scrunch in the clumps under the low running water. It actually gives me alot of root curl as well doing it upside down.

You can find the flow controls online cheap.
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I was thinking that today too as I see my stylist next month and she is always interested in the new techniques I have learned. Let me know if you come up with an idea
So today, I tried the following: after I rinsed out the conditioner with my client's head back in the shampoo bowl, I raked in leave-in, raked in a bit of gel, then turned on the water, cupped my hand and scrunched in some water. I then flipped them upside down, loosened their hair at the hairline and scrunched in gel while they were still really wet.

Not perfect. But progress.
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I was thinking that today too as I see my stylist next month and she is always interested in the new techniques I have learned. Let me know if you come up with an idea
So today, I tried the following: after I rinsed out the conditioner with my client's head back in the shampoo bowl, I raked in leave-in, raked in a bit of gel, then turned on the water, cupped my hand and scrunched in some water. I then flipped them upside down, loosened their hair at the hairline and scrunched in gel while they were still really wet.

Not perfect. But progress.
LOL.. OMG, for real??? This is CLASSIC!!! You MUST take pics.

I am going to do my color this weekend and DAMNED if I dont plan to stand by a sink and SuperSoak when they are finished with me!
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I really need clumps.... but does this work for short hair?
I dont know, but I do know that it works like magic on my shortest layers (some on the crown are just 3-4 inches).
Thanks so much in going to try it! and yes i agree i thnk a video is needed lol
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Two kind of unrelated thoughts regarding this method (I'm planning on trying it tomorrow):

1. Can I spray water in instead of cupping it?

2. This seems tailor made for using with CJ Smoothing Gellie since you're supposed to wet it after applying to "activate."
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I hadn't read any of this thread until yesterday as I could easily join RCC's stringy curls club and tend to avoid trying to get my curls to clump as my hair's on the thin side (I get the dreaded "bald spots").
Anyway I had a quick read yesterday and tried it in the shower this morning (I have a mirror in the shower, no way could I have done this at the sink!) and although it initially looked like it was heading for a pony-tail it actually turned out well. My curls look clumpier but I didn't seem to get any more bald spots than usual. Not sure how that happened but I'm not complaining.
I kinda forgot what I was supposed to be doing half way through the routine (had a bit of a senior moment) but I think I did it right, struggled with the Denman though and had to use my comb to get the hair away from my head. It worked ok though and I actually had waves/curls to the top of my head. Absolutely unheard of, seriously. That said, I took my flat-iron to them as it looked so strange on me and I didn't like it! (My fringe is also going through an un-co-operative phase and it wouldn't play nice with the rest of my hair which didn't help).
All in all a good result, though I think I might have to tweak my mousse application as all the water seemed to make it a bit strange.
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I hadn't read any of this thread until yesterday as I could easily join RCC's stringy curls club and tend to avoid trying to get my curls to clump as my hair's on the thin side (I get the dreaded "bald spots").
Anyway I had a quick read yesterday and tried it in the shower this morning (I have a mirror in the shower, no way could I have done this at the sink!) and although it initially looked like it was heading for a pony-tail it actually turned out well. My curls look clumpier but I didn't seem to get any more bald spots than usual. Not sure how that happened but I'm not complaining.
I kinda forgot what I was supposed to be doing half way through the routine (had a bit of a senior moment) but I think I did it right, struggled with the Denman though and had to use my comb to get the hair away from my head. It worked ok though and I actually had waves/curls to the top of my head. Absolutely unheard of, seriously. That said, I took my flat-iron to them as it looked so strange on me and I didn't like it! (My fringe is also going through an un-co-operative phase and it wouldn't play nice with the rest of my hair which didn't help).
All in all a good result, though I think I might have to tweak my mousse application as all the water seemed to make it a bit strange.
Well, I'm glad that at least one skinny curled gal had luck with this. I keep trying some variant of this on days I wet my hair, and it just looks like it usually does, which is all well and good. I just keep expecting fat curls, lol. I guess I should just thank my lucky stars that I don't have to work for root curl and leave it at that.
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I was thinking that today too as I see my stylist next month and she is always interested in the new techniques I have learned. Let me know if you come up with an idea
So today, I tried the following: after I rinsed out the conditioner with my client's head back in the shampoo bowl, I raked in leave-in, raked in a bit of gel, then turned on the water, cupped my hand and scrunched in some water. I then flipped them upside down, loosened their hair at the hairline and scrunched in gel while they were still really wet.

Not perfect. But progress.
TY for the update

So I had great success yesterday and today again. Styling has been really weird for me since my hair has gotten so long and this seems to have cured it. Not having to go from upside down to right side up with this length just wasn't working. This is, period

I still don't have huge clumps, my ringlets are awfully skinny, but they are much more uniform and that's all I want.
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