Super-Soaker Method for Promoting Clumps -UPDATED/Video Link

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I'd like to post a picture of my hair using Rudee's method. Can anyone explain how to insert a picture in a reply to a thread?

I thought of changing my avatar or doing a signature picture, but I think my pic is too big (2.33 MB / 2158 X 2777 ). I've seen other people post pictures before directly in a thread reply, but I can't figure out how to do it.
hair type: 2B/3A
low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab; CJ strengthening (summer only)
winter/spring styling: CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam + Ouidad mongongo oil; or CJ leave-in + SpiralSolutions CEJ & FHG
summer/fall styling: CJ CCCC lite + CJ Curl Queen
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Well, I figured out how to post a small photo. (I compressed the original photo, and then was able to upload it as an attachment). It's a little hard to see, but if you click on the picture you can view a larger version.

So...here's a photo of my hair using Rudee's super-soaker method (with CJ CCCC & Abba gel).

1. CJ CCCC (raked, combed through, shaked)
2. added water (super-soaked)
3. plopped for 30 min
4. scrunched in gel for hold
5. air dried + SOTC once dry

I also uploaded the original, larger version of this photo to my fotki, in case this thumbnail is still too small to view.

(cross-posted in the CJ thread)
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hair type: 2B/3A
low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab; CJ strengthening (summer only)
winter/spring styling: CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam + Ouidad mongongo oil; or CJ leave-in + SpiralSolutions CEJ & FHG
summer/fall styling: CJ CCCC lite + CJ Curl Queen
http://members.fotki.com/melaniesusan/ pw = 3ahair

Last edited by melaniesusan; 08-04-2009 at 08:57 PM. Reason: corrected order of steps: plop first, then gel
Well, I figured out how to post a small photo. (I compressed the original photo, and then was able to upload it as an attachment). It's a little hard to see, but if you click on the picture you can view a larger version.

So...here's a photo of my hair using Rudee's super-soaker method (with CJ CCCC & Abba gel).

1. CJ CCCC (raked, combed through, shaked)
2. added water (super-soaked)
3. scrunched in gel for hold
4. plopped for 30 min
5. air dried + SOTC once dry

I also uploaded the original, larger version of this photo to my fotki, in case this thumbnail is still too small to view.

(cross-posted in the CJ thread)
Originally Posted by melaniesusan
HOLY MOLY!!!!! NICE!!!!!!

And that goes for Del2c as well!!! Hooray for figuring it out Curlies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Curls,Coils,Waves & WhatKnot
3miii/My HGs tame bulk&frizz/Give definition w/o crunch
My Photobucket Album
I've been on vacation and obviously missed this whole thread until now.

At about page 3, I was convinced this wouldn't work for me. My hair is the opposite of most of yours. Very weak curl that's easily weighed down and I have like 1/4 the hair that rudee and DEL do heh.

At page 6, I was thinking maybe I need to keep reading to see the video that Rudee might put up.

By page 8, I was really convinced the Super Soaker method wouldn't work for me. Then by page 10, I started to think that I should at least try it, you know, to give honor to the scientific method.

Now I'm off to go give this a try. Think I'm gonna try this with CJ SG, or maybe give CCCC a try again since I'll be putting it in wet. I have a fine toothed comb, but no denman. I'd been avoiding combing in things because my hair won't clump at all, except via the ice queen method. And if my hair isn't soaking wet when applying product, its stringy. So this might work. I tried something similar before but I don't think I got the hair up to my roots re-wet.

wish me luck! if I like the results I'll post a pic hah.
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Good luck Goobernut!

The Video is coming! I'm sorry but its my sons last week of Camp and we ALL have to be patient!
Curls,Coils,Waves & WhatKnot
3miii/My HGs tame bulk&frizz/Give definition w/o crunch
My Photobucket Album
Well, I figured out how to post a small photo. (I compressed the original photo, and then was able to upload it as an attachment). It's a little hard to see, but if you click on the picture you can view a larger version.

So...here's a photo of my hair using Rudee's super-soaker method (with CJ CCCC & Abba gel).

1. CJ CCCC (raked, combed through, shaked)
2. added water (super-soaked)
3. scrunched in gel for hold
4. plopped for 30 min
5. air dried + SOTC once dry

I also uploaded the original, larger version of this photo to my fotki, in case this thumbnail is still too small to view.

(cross-posted in the CJ thread)
Originally Posted by melaniesusan
WOW!! It's absolutely GORGEOUS!!

(Yep, may have to break down and go see Jannah yet!)
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So...here's a photo of my hair using Rudee's super-soaker method (with CJ CCCC & Abba gel).

1. CJ CCCC (raked, combed through, shaked)
2. added water (super-soaked)
3. scrunched in gel for hold
4. plopped for 30 min

5. air dried + SOTC once dry
Originally Posted by melaniesusan
melaniesusan, how do you like applying gel before plopping as opposed to after? Was there less crunch this way because your hair was wetter when you applied your gel?
The one time I gelled before plopping I didn't get enough hold or definition because my hair was too wet when I applied the gel. (That's my theory at least).
I'm just curious what your (or anyone else's) thoughts are.
Thanks!
2c-3a. Thick density. Texture = mixture of medium and fine.

Always trying to boost my curl!


Go-to products: Pink Boots, CJSG, LALSG, Abba Pure Finish gel
Experimenting with: CJAF, CJ CCCC, JCRR/CC, BRHG, PB Goo, Re:Coil, Komaza CHP, EcoStyler Protein
Didn't like: HESMU, Matrix Biolage Gelee (both too goopy)

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Last updated: Dec. 3, 2009

So...here's a photo of my hair using Rudee's super-soaker method (with CJ CCCC & Abba gel).

1. CJ CCCC (raked, combed through, shaked)
2. added water (super-soaked)
3. scrunched in gel for hold
4. plopped for 30 min
5. air dried + SOTC once dry
Originally Posted by melaniesusan
melaniesusan, how do you like applying gel before plopping as opposed to after? Was there less crunch this way because your hair was wetter when you applied your gel?
The one time I gelled before plopping I didn't get enough hold or definition because my hair was too wet when I applied the gel. (That's my theory at least).
I'm just curious what your (or anyone else's) thoughts are.
Thanks!
Originally Posted by thick_n_wavy
oooh...thick-n-wavy, that was actually a mistake on my part; thanks for catching it!

I always add gel AFTER plopping. The correct sequence should have been:

1. CJ CCCC (raked, combed through, shaked)
2. added water (super-soaked)
3. plopped for 30 min
4. scrunched in gel for hold
5. air dried + SOTC once dry

Sorry for the mix-up!

(I always add gel as the last step because it keeps my curls from getting messed up and the gel doesn't get wiped off in the towel when I plop)
hair type: 2B/3A
low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab; CJ strengthening (summer only)
winter/spring styling: CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam + Ouidad mongongo oil; or CJ leave-in + SpiralSolutions CEJ & FHG
summer/fall styling: CJ CCCC lite + CJ Curl Queen
http://members.fotki.com/melaniesusan/ pw = 3ahair
So I tried this last night and I liked it a lot!

But aside from the scrunching with water part, I didn't follow rudee's directions too carefully. I don't have a Denman, instead I have an old paddle brush that I got at the Aveda school years ago. So I took a modified approach, first raking the AOHR in, then brushing it in a little more, then the scrunching with water.

I also did not plop. Plopping, for my hair, is the debbil. Never works. Disaster. So I just let it air dry.

Anyway, I got fantastic clumps from that. I was really impressed! It makes total sense, because my hair needs needs needs moisture to clump, and this method totally delivers it. It didn't seem to take any longer to dry, either, which was a nice surprise.

Tonight when I was refreshing, as I always do in the evenings [in order to try to get multiple day hair], I did the scrunching with water into the ends again, before I added a touch more AOHR ad BRHG, my two standbys. My usual approach is to use a spray bottle to add water to my hair, so this definitely added more moisture, and to the ends, where it really counts.

What comes next remains to be seen, but so far, so good!
So I tried this last night and I liked it a lot!

But aside from the scrunching with water part, I didn't follow rudee's directions too carefully. I don't have a Denman, instead I have an old paddle brush that I got at the Aveda school years ago. So I took a modified approach, first raking the AOHR in, then brushing it in a little more, then the scrunching with water.

I also did not plop. Plopping, for my hair, is the debbil. Never works. Disaster. So I just let it air dry.

Anyway, I got fantastic clumps from that. I was really impressed! It makes total sense, because my hair needs needs needs moisture to clump, and this method totally delivers it. It didn't seem to take any longer to dry, either, which was a nice surprise.

Tonight when I was refreshing, as I always do in the evenings [in order to try to get multiple day hair], I did the scrunching with water into the ends again, before I added a touch more AOHR ad BRHG, my two standbys. My usual approach is to use a spray bottle to add water to my hair, so this definitely added more moisture, and to the ends, where it really counts.

What comes next remains to be seen, but so far, so good!
Originally Posted by wild~hair
YAY! PICTURES!!!
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My Photobucket Album
Okay, no picture but I think like Jess that I'm gonna need to work with it a bit.

I knew I would make a ridiculous mess if I did it at the sink so I filled the bottom of the tub and re-scrunched in water till my wet clumps were thick instead of stringy. then got out and plopped my hair. after doing my face stuff took it out of the plop and scrunched in gel. I did the exact same thing Melaine did, but used BHRG instead of Abba.

I ended up with slightly smaller clumps than the ice queen method, but actually, I kinda like it. Instead of cutting down on my volume, it boosted it. I don't air dry, I have to diffuse. My hair is curlier, and I have better root volume. I bet that's because the combing gave me better product distribution. I think this has promise for me.

Also, for all of you who were wondering if you rinse out all the product -- I didn't feel like that happened at all. I could still feel lots of CCCC in my hair as I scrunched in the water. I'm going to try it next with CJ SG and see if I still feel the same way.

Thanks for sharing rudee.

And I have to say DEL, I love your pic. I mean, Rudee's hair is the bomb, but I know that my hair will never look like that lol. I should know better, because my hair will never look like DEL's either because my whole head = like 3 of her hair strands, but man its perfect. that's what I want when I think of wavy hair.
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Okay, no picture but I think like Jess that I'm gonna need to work with it a bit.

I knew I would make a ridiculous mess if I did it at the sink so I filled the bottom of the tub and re-scrunched in water till my wet clumps were thick instead of stringy. then got out and plopped my hair. after doing my face stuff took it out of the plop and scrunched in gel. I did the exact same thing Melaine did, but used BHRG instead of Abba.

I ended up with slightly smaller clumps than the ice queen method, but actually, I kinda like it. Instead of cutting down on my volume, it boosted it. I don't air dry, I have to diffuse. My hair is curlier, and I have better root volume. I bet that's because the combing gave me better product distribution. I think this has promise for me.

Also, for all of you who were wondering if you rinse out all the product -- I didn't feel like that happened at all. I could still feel lots of CCCC in my hair as I scrunched in the water. I'm going to try it next with CJ SG and see if I still feel the same way.

Thanks for sharing rudee.

And I have to say DEL, I love your pic. I mean, Rudee's hair is the bomb, but I know that my hair will never look like that lol. I should know better, because my hair will never look like DEL's either because my whole head = like 3 of her hair strands, but man its perfect. that's what I want when I think of wavy hair.
Originally Posted by goobernut
Let me go on record for the millionth time- Del is one of my hair IDOLS! WHat I wouldnt give for 2c hair
Curls,Coils,Waves & WhatKnot
3miii/My HGs tame bulk&frizz/Give definition w/o crunch
My Photobucket Album
I haven't ever had a problem with clumping (One time it clumped way to much and I had 4 big sausage curls on one side) but I want to try this.
Can it work if you don't have a denman?
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Rinse:
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Detangler/Conditioner:
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Stylers: Botticelli Botanicals Styling Mudd, KCCC, Honey Rinses and BRHG, Crack Leave-in Hair Cream when straightening

Tools: Silk pillowcase, Floursack towels, Jersey T-Shirts, Wide Tooth Comb, Velecta Paramount TGR-VQX Hair Dryer (for when I straighten) and BaByliss PRO Ionic Rollabout Hard Hat Dryer
The grass is always Greener eh? I would kill for your spirals!

I will admit though, the beach wavy thing is seriously in style right now. I rarely see bone straight hair on TV/movies anymore. Now I know why HE started a whole line called "totally tousled". It is all the rage. If you search you tube for "beach hair" you get a ridiculous amt of videos of how to make your hair wavy.
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I haven't ever had a problem with clumping (One time it clumped way to much and I had 4 big sausage curls on one side) but I want to try this.
Can it work if you don't have a denman?
Originally Posted by Curls=Beauty
Substitute a FINE tooth comb.
The grass is always Greener eh? I would kill for your spirals!

I will admit though, the beach wavy thing is seriously in style right now. I rarely see bone straight hair on TV/movies anymore. Now I know why HE started a whole line called "totally tousled". It is all the rage. If you search you tube for "beach hair" you get a ridiculous amt of videos of how to make your hair wavy.
Originally Posted by goobernut
I've given up fighting my natural texture; too much work. I am making peace with the fact that my curls are tighter than I would like. I'm practicing gratitude
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3miii/My HGs tame bulk&frizz/Give definition w/o crunch
My Photobucket Album
I haven't ever had a problem with clumping (One time it clumped way to much and I had 4 big sausage curls on one side) but I want to try this.
Can it work if you don't have a denman?
Originally Posted by Curls=Beauty
Substitute a FINE tooth comb.
The grass is always Greener eh? I would kill for your spirals!

I will admit though, the beach wavy thing is seriously in style right now. I rarely see bone straight hair on TV/movies anymore. Now I know why HE started a whole line called "totally tousled". It is all the rage. If you search you tube for "beach hair" you get a ridiculous amt of videos of how to make your hair wavy.
Originally Posted by goobernut
I've given up fighting my natural texture; too much work. I am making peace with the fact that my curls are tighter than I would like. I'm practicing gratitude
Originally Posted by rudeechick

Gotcha. Will be trying this tonight.
Cleanser: Liquid Castile Soap diluted in a foaming soap dispenser
Rinse:
ACV rinse
Detangler/Conditioner:
Oyin Handmade Greg Juice or Juices and Berries
Stylers: Botticelli Botanicals Styling Mudd, KCCC, Honey Rinses and BRHG, Crack Leave-in Hair Cream when straightening

Tools: Silk pillowcase, Floursack towels, Jersey T-Shirts, Wide Tooth Comb, Velecta Paramount TGR-VQX Hair Dryer (for when I straighten) and BaByliss PRO Ionic Rollabout Hard Hat Dryer
Okay, no picture but I think like Jess that I'm gonna need to work with it a bit.

I knew I would make a ridiculous mess if I did it at the sink so I filled the bottom of the tub and re-scrunched in water till my wet clumps were thick instead of stringy. then got out and plopped my hair. after doing my face stuff took it out of the plop and scrunched in gel. I did the exact same thing Melaine did, but used BHRG instead of Abba.

I ended up with slightly smaller clumps than the ice queen method, but actually, I kinda like it. Instead of cutting down on my volume, it boosted it. I don't air dry, I have to diffuse. My hair is curlier, and I have better root volume. I bet that's because the combing gave me better product distribution. I think this has promise for me.

Also, for all of you who were wondering if you rinse out all the product -- I didn't feel like that happened at all. I could still feel lots of CCCC in my hair as I scrunched in the water. I'm going to try it next with CJ SG and see if I still feel the same way.

Thanks for sharing rudee.

And I have to say DEL, I love your pic. I mean, Rudee's hair is the bomb, but I know that my hair will never look like that lol. I should know better, because my hair will never look like DEL's either because my whole head = like 3 of her hair strands, but man its perfect. that's what I want when I think of wavy hair.
Originally Posted by goobernut
Let me go on record for the millionth time- Del is one of my hair IDOLS! WHat I wouldnt give for 2c hair
Originally Posted by rudeechick
Just don't use rich conditioners this winter, and you'll be at 2c alright. That's what happened to me anyway.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

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Okay, no picture but I think like Jess that I'm gonna need to work with it a bit.

I knew I would make a ridiculous mess if I did it at the sink so I filled the bottom of the tub and re-scrunched in water till my wet clumps were thick instead of stringy. then got out and plopped my hair. after doing my face stuff took it out of the plop and scrunched in gel. I did the exact same thing Melaine did, but used BHRG instead of Abba.

I ended up with slightly smaller clumps than the ice queen method, but actually, I kinda like it. Instead of cutting down on my volume, it boosted it. I don't air dry, I have to diffuse. My hair is curlier, and I have better root volume. I bet that's because the combing gave me better product distribution. I think this has promise for me.

Also, for all of you who were wondering if you rinse out all the product -- I didn't feel like that happened at all. I could still feel lots of CCCC in my hair as I scrunched in the water. I'm going to try it next with CJ SG and see if I still feel the same way.

Thanks for sharing rudee.

And I have to say DEL, I love your pic. I mean, Rudee's hair is the bomb, but I know that my hair will never look like that lol. I should know better, because my hair will never look like DEL's either because my whole head = like 3 of her hair strands, but man its perfect. that's what I want when I think of wavy hair.
Originally Posted by goobernut
Let me go on record for the millionth time- Del is one of my hair IDOLS! WHat I wouldnt give for 2c hair
Originally Posted by rudeechick
Just don't use rich conditioners this winter, and you'll be at 2c alright. That's what happened to me anyway.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
lol. I was about to add "except in the winter", but honestly, I have NO CLUE how my hair will change by the time winter comes around!
Curls,Coils,Waves & WhatKnot
3miii/My HGs tame bulk&frizz/Give definition w/o crunch
My Photobucket Album
Okay, no picture but I think like Jess that I'm gonna need to work with it a bit.

I knew I would make a ridiculous mess if I did it at the sink so I filled the bottom of the tub and re-scrunched in water till my wet clumps were thick instead of stringy. then got out and plopped my hair. after doing my face stuff took it out of the plop and scrunched in gel. I did the exact same thing Melaine did, but used BHRG instead of Abba.

I ended up with slightly smaller clumps than the ice queen method, but actually, I kinda like it. Instead of cutting down on my volume, it boosted it. I don't air dry, I have to diffuse. My hair is curlier, and I have better root volume. I bet that's because the combing gave me better product distribution. I think this has promise for me.

Also, for all of you who were wondering if you rinse out all the product -- I didn't feel like that happened at all. I could still feel lots of CCCC in my hair as I scrunched in the water. I'm going to try it next with CJ SG and see if I still feel the same way.

Thanks for sharing rudee.

And I have to say DEL, I love your pic. I mean, Rudee's hair is the bomb, but I know that my hair will never look like that lol. I should know better, because my hair will never look like DEL's either because my whole head = like 3 of her hair strands, but man its perfect. that's what I want when I think of wavy hair.
Originally Posted by goobernut
Let me go on record for the millionth time- Del is one of my hair IDOLS! WHat I wouldnt give for 2c hair
Originally Posted by rudeechick
Oh man you guys are funny I meant to say that like Jess I don't have more clumps but it helped with distribution and I think the waves are more uniform.

I'll try to be gracious and accept your complements and not go on about what a PITA these thick strands are!!! Here's an example though, after a day at the Lake or the Beach my little girls fine 2B/3A hair turns into a massive amt. of curls and spirals everywhere! Mine turns to POOF and FRIZZ I so can not live without product!

rudee I can't WAIT to see what Winter brings for you! Seriously, can you get any curlier
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Can it work if you don't have a denman?
Originally Posted by Curls=Beauty
I used a paddle brush instead and I liked my results. Give it a go, I say!

Substitute a FINE tooth comb.
Originally Posted by rudeechick
Ah, but I do have one of those. I'll try that next time.

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