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Old 07-22-2009, 05:10 PM   #21
 
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Rudee, I will have to give this a try. It seems scrunching also breaks up the clumps for me too.
Your hair is a lot like mine. When I had a shorter haircut it was very similar to yours volume curls bangs and all.
Now the weight pulls some of the curls down from the top making it a little flatter. Will this work without using the brush?? Had a bad PJ attack and have no xtra $$ but am very anxious to try this I think it will do the trick. (How about a fine toothed comb?)
Oh and when are you gonna do that video we are all waiting to see??
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Rudee, I will have to give this a try. It seems scrunching also breaks up the clumps for me too.
Your hair is a lot like mine. When I had a shorter haircut it was very similar to yours volume curls bangs and all.
Now the weight pulls some of the curls down from the top making it a little flatter. Will this work without using the brush?? Had a bad PJ attack and have no xtra $$ but am very anxious to try this I think it will do the trick. (How about a fine toothed comb?)
Oh and when are you gonna do that video we are all waiting to see??
Donna, Conair makes a rip off of the Denman brush thats just a few bucks. And now that you mention it, before I started with the Denman last year I was using a fine toothed comb, but make sure its fine toothed.

Re yer flat top issue: you know its cause your hair is so long and without layers. Have you tried drying upside down or to the sides? (I can't cause it gives me too much volume.) But in terms of this routine, the "brush out and away from the scalp" step is crucial for you.

Have you tried clipping for root lift? And (last question) any pics from when your hair was shorter like mine? I'm uber curious now

As for a video.... I'm considering it
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Well, I tried it with a fine tooth comb. Yucky yucky. Not to mention ouchy ouchy. And tedious. I'll wait to try again when I have an actual Denman brush.

And Del...you know my clump obsession. I'll take everyone's pet peeves - frizz, too much volume, flat top, etc. - but I will not tolerate skinny curls.

Make a video. Please!!!!
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Rudee....I tried your method and decided to do all of it in the shower because I would have just made a huge mess in front of the sink. I was so focused on getting the 'final brushing of the crown OUT AND AWAY FROM MY SCALP' that I forgot to take care of my part and now I look like Elvis LOL! I now understand the reasion for standing at the sink and front of the mirror!
I am getting some major clumping on my longest layer which is BSL but before I do this again, I think I'll wait for the video!!!!
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Rudee....I tried your method and decided to do all of it in the shower because I would have just made a huge mess in front of the sink. I was so focused on getting the 'final brushing of the crown OUT AND AWAY FROM MY SCALP' that I forgot to take care of my part and now I look like Elvis LOL! I now understand the reasion for standing at the sink and front of the mirror!
I am getting some major clumping on my longest layer which is BSL but before I do this again, I think I'll wait for the video!!!!
Lol. That is the exact reason! Geez, do you guys really want me to try to video this??
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Yes!! Yay!
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Well, I tried it with a fine tooth comb. Yucky yucky. Not to mention ouchy ouchy. And tedious. I'll wait to try again when I have an actual Denman brush.

And Del...you know my clump obsession. I'll take everyone's pet peeves - frizz, too much volume, flat top, etc. - but I will not tolerate skinny curls.

Make a video. Please!!!!
I guess I"ll have to get my *ss up to Wal-Mart and pick up that brush!! If I can get this to work for me it will be a major improvement!!
I'll let ya know what happens.
Rudee will look 4 some pics of my hair shorter.
Be waiting on that video!!
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I am new (this is my first post), and I LOVE the super-soaker method!! Gives my 3b/3c hair great clumps.

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I am new (this is my first post), and I LOVE the super-soaker method!! Give my 3b/3c hair great clumps.
Great name for this method!!
RUDEE'S SUPER-SOAKER METHOD!!
Then coming sooooonnn!!!
Rudee's Super-Soaker Method VIDEO! Stay tuned.
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RUDEE>>>VIDEO>>>>YES!!!!!
I need a video so I can get rid of this Elvis pompadour hairdo!
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I tried this today and had to get back in the shower and get my head wet again, lol.

It just made me all tangly. For whatever reason, I just need to do this all upside down.
ditto. I think all this brushing doesn't play well with most 3B hair.
Well, true. I like my Denman, and that's about the limit of my brushing.

Rudee, I was going to say that my length was an issue, but Jeep and I are of different legnths. I do get tangles at the ends, but, no more than about average for that length, and usually not so many when my hair is wet.

I think it is just more manipulation than my wet hair cares for. I just stay upside down, put stuff on and bring my hair back up.
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Well, I tried it with a fine tooth comb. Yucky yucky. Not to mention ouchy ouchy. And tedious. I'll wait to try again when I have an actual Denman brush.

And Del...you know my clump obsession. I'll take everyone's pet peeves - frizz, too much volume, flat top, etc. - but I will not tolerate skinny curls.

Make a video. Please!!!!
I guess I"ll have to get my *ss up to Wal-Mart and pick up that brush!! If I can get this to work for me it will be a major improvement!!
I'll let ya know what happens.
Rudee will look 4 some pics of my hair shorter.
Be waiting on that video!!
I would be curious to see if I have a hair twin Also, Please bear in mind, with your length, get the crown to clump or even lift might not be possible
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I am new (this is my first post), and I LOVE the super-soaker method!! Gives my 3b/3c hair great clumps.
Yay! Me so happy!

Welcome!! And good luck; this place is great!
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(sorry guys, the site wont let me multi quote this AM)

RCC - if it aint workin, it aint workin.

I would be curious to see if you couldmake it work.... Not that i'm challenging you or anything.... But for the sake of curly research

Seriously, in my teens my texture was closer to yours than what it is now, and my hair was long. I am trying to envision wether or not this was something that hair would have responded to; frankly, I dont know.

Say, maybe you could try this deviation: brush and soak upside down?
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Very interesting - your hair is very unique (and gorgeous) and I've wondered how you get it to look the way it does in your pics. It doesn't have any trace of the wet/crunchy look that I frequently see on these boards and often struggle with myself. I can't image how you get that result after soaking your hair - does it take forever to dry? Also, how do you manage to plop with bangs? I've tried plopping and it really messes with my bangs...

Thanks for sharing!
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Very interesting - your hair is very unique (and gorgeous) and I've wondered how you get it to look the way it does in your pics. It doesn't have any trace of the wet/crunchy look that I frequently see on these boards and often struggle with myself. I can't image how you get that result after soaking your hair - does it take forever to dry? Also, how do you manage to plop with bangs? I've tried plopping and it really messes with my bangs...

Thanks for sharing!
Yay! A fellow Curly Bangs chick!

First of all, none of my pics reflect this method - I just came up with this 2 weeks ago and havent posted any pics of it yet (DundunDUN!!!!) I started the thread at the urging of another curly who heard me mention it in various random posts.

As for the crunchy look - look at my Sig.... My life long quest is definition without crunch. I WILL NOT do Crunch. I'd rather have bad hair then crunch (thats just me, no hate mail please).

I MUST be able to touch my hair, which I do constantly. Thats really more, IMO, a function of the right product for my hair/goals. Admittedly, lots of products that give other curlies crunch dont do so on me (no clue why but I suspect it is the sheer weight/mass of my hair).

As for drying, I always either plop (mainly in summer) or at least scrunch out the excess with my curl ease. I would imagine my drying time would be shorter if I towel dried conventionally, but that aint happening

As for plopping with bangs: Last summer I used to fish out my bangs, twist them in a clip and THEN go into the plop. It was a nuisance and always resulted in slight ruffling (ie frizz) by my temples. One day I was doing one of those 'im not going anywhere so who cares' hair days and I went straight into the plop without pulling out my bangs. When I came out of the plop I noticed that it was MUCH easier to seperate them out than pre-plop. So thats how I do it now. And since I've been using the Denman/Soaker method, when I come out of the plop, even the bangs are clumpy, so they are even EASIER to grab!

HTH and thanks for the lovely compliments!
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RCC - if it aint workin, it aint workin.

I would be curious to see if you couldmake it work.... Not that i'm challenging you or anything.... But for the sake of curly research

Seriously, in my teens my texture was closer to yours than what it is now, and my hair was long. I am trying to envision wether or not this was something that hair would have responded to; frankly, I dont know.

Say, maybe you could try this deviation: brush and soak upside down?
Well, I already brush and scrunch upside down, so maybe that's close enough? I also apply products pretty much dripping wet, so there may be some similarities there already? Hmmm

When did your texture loosen? I think we're resonably close in age - you have to be less than 10 years above me. I wonder if I'll see this texture loosening later.
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I did it in the shower today and just brushed upside down and put products into soaking wet hair without squeezing out any excess water and then plopping. I got the same good clumping I got yesterday at the sink without having to mop up my mess. Yesterday it looked like a flock of big birds had a party at a birdbath!! I've always gotten better clumping when putting products into soaking wet hair right in the shower and don't know why I haven't been doing it lately - I'll have to back to doing that regularly again. I guess I don't need to see what I'm doing since I start diffusing upside down as soon as I come out of the plop and my part/bangs either fall into place or can be manipulated without too much trouble once I come right side up.
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RCC - if it aint workin, it aint workin.

I would be curious to see if you couldmake it work.... Not that i'm challenging you or anything.... But for the sake of curly research

Seriously, in my teens my texture was closer to yours than what it is now, and my hair was long. I am trying to envision wether or not this was something that hair would have responded to; frankly, I dont know.

Say, maybe you could try this deviation: brush and soak upside down?
Well, I already brush and scrunch upside down, so maybe that's close enough? I also apply products pretty much dripping wet, so there may be some similarities there already? Hmmm

When did your texture loosen? I think we're resonably close in age - you have to be less than 10 years above me. I wonder if I'll see this texture loosening later.
First of all, love that picture!!

My hair loosened up with each pregnancy (33 and 39), so I suppose its hormone related?
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I did it in the shower today and just brushed upside down and put products into soaking wet hair without squeezing out any excess water and then plopping. I got the same good clumping I got yesterday at the sink without having to mop up my mess. Yesterday it looked like a flock of big birds had a party at a birdbath!! I've always gotten better clumping when putting products into soaking wet hair right in the shower and don't know why I haven't been doing it lately - I'll have to back to doing that regularly again. I guess I don't need to see what I'm doing since I start diffusing upside down as soon as I come out of the plop and my part/bangs either fall into place or can be manipulated without too much trouble once I come right side up.
I have always put product into sopping wet hair as well. The diff is that now I scrunch in lots of water after product application. I actually stumbled upon this as a result of using my CJSG, which instructs you to add water to further "activate" the product.
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