help needed w/fine, thin, 2c/3a frizzy hair

I wanted to report my hair happenings.

I went on a short vacation this weekend. While staying in the hotel my hair looked great. It had no frizz and lots of body. In fact, as I remember every time I have stayed at a hotel I have had very nice hair. I am guessing this is because they have soft water.

So this morning I was back home, same products, same procedure, frizz. My water is the problem.

I just had a chance to go out and buy the vinegar tonight so I haven't had an opportunity to try that yet.
Hi Mendy. You and I have VERY similar hair, I might even go as far as to say you could be my hair twin (the only one I have found so far). My hair is also fine/thin, with med-high porosity but it has become more curly with the CG method, there are pics in my fotki (see below).

Here are some tips that work with my hair...maybe something will be of help!

My hair LOVES protein and I do a protein treatment (Nexus Emergencee) about twice per month followed by a DT (usually a heavy conditioner unless I am more motivated and I use coconut milk, honey, and olive oil which makes my hair so shiny and bouncy). I had success for awhile with ACV rinses but not in a long time.

I co-wash with suave coconut, rinse out with TIGI Moisture Maniac, and use the TIGI as a leave in as well (a pea sized drop). I always thought my hair was weighed down with too much moisture but I have found a balance it seems.

I love KCCC for styling (raked then scrunched through soaking wet hair then scrunch out the excess water with a t-shirt) followed by HETT mousse lightly scrunched in upside down. I check out my scalp for any obvious cowlicks or large parts of my scalp exposed and twist curls together to cover those parts, I also twist the curls on the canopy to ensure they aren't going to dry too crazy. I then let it air dry until it is about 90% dry and scrunch out the crunch. I have found that although I look awful when it is drying (bits of scalp showing and a real drowned rat look to me) it looks so much better dry when I just leave it alone before scrunching. In the winter I scrunched with JCN&S but in the summer I have been just scrunching with bare hands then lightly scrunching with a bit of water to re-activate the product and lay the fly-aways back down.

It took about a year to figure out what works and I still go through phases of not liking the results and having to try something new. I too believe that a shorter cut gives more volume but I also want the luxury of pulling it back so I fight with the flat head issues!

Good luck and let me know if you find some new methods that work! I too like to travel for the hair benefits, not so much the water but my hair gets so thick with the humidity...I need to move to Florida.
Fine/Thin/Med Porosity 3a-b
CG since 7-2008
Wow, it is great to hear from you Courtney! Many people have fine hair, but they do not have thin hair. Thank you so much for responding.

I will try some of the products that you mentioned. I know that everyone raves about KCCC, but the product description says something about helping to control body. That concerned me so I haven't tried it yet. So I will give that a try.

I thinking very seriously about shorter hair. My other big concern is a stylist. I am unhappy with my current one. I found someone with nice curly hair (happened to be a CG) and she recommended someone. I'm just not sure if I should take a bold move with a new stylist. Well, I'll think about it some more.

My biggest problem is still frizz and the hair cut won't fix that.

The homemade DT that you make. What is the recipe, and (I probably should know this, but) where do you get coconut milk (from a coconut)?
I was a little concerned trying the KCCC for the same reason but my hair loves moisture and wasn't responding well to many drugstore products so I figured it was worth a shot. Thanks to fine/thin hair I have had the same jar for about 6 months and I still have about two inches left of product in the jar to get through. So it isn't nearly as expensive as it first appears (in my opinion). I do have to be careful about not using too much as for me it doesn't feel like I have any in my hair when I am applying it but if I get too much then I get weighed down and almost wet looking. Took me a few applications to get it just right.

For the DT: I buy a can of coconut milk (look in the ethnic food section with the soy sauce and other thai spices, try to find something that is all coconut milk with just water added, "Taste of Thai" or something close to that is the brand I buy) and pour 1/4 into a cup mix it with about a tablespoon of honey and a tablespoon of olive oil. I apply it to dry hair (I figure dry hair soaks up more) then wrap my head in plastic wrap to keep the goo in. I use a hair dryer to lightly warm it to help the mixture soak in or yesterday I put a tshirt on my head over the plastic and sat in the sun for a few hours. I co-wash it out and just add a leave in. Sometimes my hair is a little greasy day one but day two it is always looking its best. You can save the rest of the coconut milk in ziploc bags and put them in the freezer. Then I can just pull out a ziploc the night before a DT and let it defrost in the fridge.
Fine/Thin/Med Porosity 3a-b
CG since 7-2008

I thinking very seriously about shorter hair. My other big concern is a stylist. I am unhappy with my current one. I found someone with nice curly hair (happened to be a CG) and she recommended someone. I'm just not sure if I should take a bold move with a new stylist. Well, I'll think about it some more.
Originally Posted by mendy789
Hmm... You could just go and get a nice trim/reshape to see if you like the hairdresser and then the next time you could make a bold move. Sometimes all you need is a reshape anyway.
Personally, I don't think I'd cut off a whole bunch until I found out what my hair needed. Your hair could look great at your length if you just found the right stuff... You never know.
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Courtney thank you for the DT recipe and chgurlsng that is a good suggestion about a trim. I really appreciate your advice.

I made and tried homemade flax gel yesterday. It was nice, but I still had frizz.

Today I did a ACV and a DT (I haven't gotten out to buy the coconut milk. I don't get to the store much. I used what I had Jessicurl Weekly DT and added some honey). Definitely an improvement, but not what I ultimately want.

Maybe my hair is just really dry. Maybe I should purchase a heavier daily conditioner to use until my hair recovers from the use of silicone styling products.

I'll just keep putting moisture on my hair and experimenting!

Last edited by mendy789; 07-30-2009 at 04:00 PM. Reason: to be a little more specific

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