whhhaaaa is up with my hair?

I've finally gathered enough pictures to ask you guys to type it. the thing is, it never looks the same!
Also, do you think that if I cut it it would get curlier as it got shorter, or straighter?


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THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
It looks like you're 2c to me. I love your hair. Are you on the CG method?
3b curls
Products I'm using:
Shampoo 1-2x/week: Organix Coconut
Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut
Conditioner: GVP Conditioning Balm
Leave-in: Giovanni Direct Leave-In
Gel: LA Looks Sport

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Might even be 3a - sometimes curl patterns tighten up a little if you go CG. If you get it cut, it could go either way. Some people find their hair gets curlier the longer it is (mine does), while some people's hair gets curlier the shorter it is. You'd almost have to take off a sizable chunk (without making it dramatic if you want to keep it long) and see what it does to find out.

I can highly recommend going CG, by the way. Works wonders and sometimes can make hair curlier (though rarely dramatically).
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Sometimes dramatically.
Curls,Coils,Waves & WhatKnot
3miii/My HGs tame bulk&frizz/Give definition w/o crunch
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Well, not from a 1a to a 4c or anything. Thats dramatically.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Well, not from a 1a to a 4c or anything. Thats dramatically.
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
You gotta check out my "Early Curly" Album some day!
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Seriously? that dramatically? I mean, if I brushed the curl out of my hair when dry, it was vaguely 1ish, but it still showed signs of being at least a 2c. I couldn't get it truly straight looking unless I flat ironed it. *toddles off to see album*
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Okay - that's a pretty impressive change. What were you doing to it to get it that straight - was it just going CG that made the change or had you done something else?
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Okay - that's a pretty impressive change. What were you doing to it to get it that straight - was it just going CG that made the change or had you done something else?
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Well, the bottom 2-3 inches was what was leftover of my Japanese Thermal Reconditioning. It had been a year since my last process; I was flatironing the rest that whole time, so I guess it was pretty fried from that. Plus I wasnt CG, so I'm sure every product I was using was supressing whatever natural texture was there.

But those pics are just how it dried at the time with product scrunched in and diffused. Imagine!
Curls,Coils,Waves & WhatKnot
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Seriously? that dramatically? I mean, if I brushed the curl out of my hair when dry, it was vaguely 1ish, but it still showed signs of being at least a 2c. I couldn't get it truly straight looking unless I flat ironed it. *toddles off to see album*
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Some can get one to two subtypes, which can seem dramatic if it's your own head. You won't go from a 1 to a 4 or vice versa unless you are transitioning from some sort of chemical treatment.
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Seriously? that dramatically? I mean, if I brushed the curl out of my hair when dry, it was vaguely 1ish, but it still showed signs of being at least a 2c. I couldn't get it truly straight looking unless I flat ironed it. *toddles off to see album*
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Some can get one to two subtypes, which can seem dramatic if it's your own head. You won't go from a 1 to a 4 or vice versa unless you are transitioning from some sort of chemical treatment.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Exactly!
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you have GREAT hair and with proper care you will have absolutely gorgeous hair!
thank you for your compliments, guys. I am not CG, but I have tried it...maybe you can help me with that too? When I don't use shampoo, my hair feels slightly damp, although not in a greasy way. Just a little damp and strandy...
can you guys help me with CG? Do you think I should accept that it doesn't work on my hair, or am I doing something wrong? It felt like I was over-conditioning at the crown of my head, but if I used any less it was sticky and piece-y.
Your hair looks pretty similar to mine Caroline. I tend to think of myself as 2c but sometime's it's more 3a. My hair's a bit shorter than yours and I'd say with me it tends to get curlier when it's longer and straghter when it's shorter.

Saying that yesterday, my two chin length layers turned into two fat ringlets yesterday!

I'm not CG so can't help you there but I'm sure some others will be able too. I'm mostly cone-free now but still use shampoo. Seems to be a happy compromise for me right now. CG wasn't working for me either but maybe I'm just being impatient lol!

Kerry xx
UK curly - mostly 2c
  • Going back to basics!
  • Happily using a mixture of sulphates, cones and CG products.
  • Permanently undecided whether to cut or grow!
Currently loving:
Lush I Love Juicy shampoo
Charles Worthington frizz smoothing conditioner

Superdrug coconut & almond intensive conditioner
Montagne Jeunesse avocado & cherry bark mask
Umberto Giannini curl gel
Boots 'pink' curl creme
I'd be happy to help you with going CG.

If you've only given it a week or two previously, it may be your hair had not yet adjusted to not being stripped of its natural oil and was still overproducing - that will cause it to feel damp and/or oily. If you gave it quite a while, then it's possible you need a slightly different product, or that you've not gotten rid of all the cones from your routine.

What products do you use currently? - it's as good a place to start as any.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Thanks for your help, Kerry. I think maybe I won't cut my hair now

Oddity of Wings!
I don't really pay much attention to the products I use--I think I'm using Dove "Go Fresh" cool moisture shampoo and Suave Naturals cucumber melon (?) conditioner. I guess I just didn't have the patience before to go three weeks with gross hair...what can I use as a cheap alternative to get clean hair?
Ah, well there's yer problem! Both of those conditioners are chock full of silicones - which will build up and cause problems, especially if you aren't using a shampoo. The 'dampness' you felt was probably silicone buildup - something that will choke your hair and dry it out. If you want to try CG again, I suggest switching to a conditioner without silicones (anything ending in -cone, -conol, or -xane). People in the States have good luck with other products in the Suave Naturals range - the Coconut, Waterlilly and Aloe, and Tangerine are all CG and are good places to start for cowashing. There is a list...somewhere... of CG products under $10 a bottle. I suspect most of them are well below that. Will report back when I find that thread.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Right - this is not exactly what I was looking for, but it does have a list of CG conditioners - both for cowash and rinse-out - and you should be able to tell which ones are cheapish with a quick google. I'm reasonably sure there's an actual list of them on here, but I can't seem to find it for some reason. Will keep looking, but this should get you started: http://curlgirljourney.blogspot.com/ (list is on the left side).
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Ah-ha! Here's the one I meant!

Curlies on a Budget...
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...

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