Where did the crunch go?

I get barely any crunch at all using the BRHG (in some places none, in some very, very little) and am mystified since this seems to be a gel that for most people means a lot of crunch. Anyone else not getting crunch from BRHG???

I've used the BRHG on top of CJLI+CCCC, CJLI+CJSG and CJLI+Komaza pudding. I think my curls would hold up even better (I do get quite good hold in spite of the lack of crunch) if there was more crunch so would like to get the crunch back!
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3a; med-coarse; ii; med or high porosity (or a mix); med elasticity
LOVE CJ products but CJ is no longer sold in Europe and does not ship to Europe so looking for other products. Like Crown Pride and Curly Kinks.
Tools: curlease towel, wide toothed plastic comb, Braun Satin Pro Diffuser.
Current HG: CJ CCCC-lite+BRHG
http://public.fotki.com/s-curl-7/

Last edited by s-curl-7; 08-05-2009 at 08:35 AM.
Since you're using it on top of moisturizing combos, that will soften up the crunch. You should still be getting hold, though, since the curl creams and puddings also have some hold. It also softens up the crunch if you're putting into very wet hair.
http://public.fotki.com/msgiblet/ - pw: gibber -- Pics Added 7/10/11
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I do think that the moisturizers, fairly wet hair when adding BRHG as well as diffusing add to the softer curls, but barely ANY crunch? And it seems that others who use moisturizing combos + BRHG are still getting crunch?!
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3a; med-coarse; ii; med or high porosity (or a mix); med elasticity
LOVE CJ products but CJ is no longer sold in Europe and does not ship to Europe so looking for other products. Like Crown Pride and Curly Kinks.
Tools: curlease towel, wide toothed plastic comb, Braun Satin Pro Diffuser.
Current HG: CJ CCCC-lite+BRHG
http://public.fotki.com/s-curl-7/
I did not get any crunch whatsoever from BRHG. All it did was weigh my hair down and it looked awful. I have no idea what causes that as every other gel I've used has left more than enough crunch to scrunch out (I need this as well to hold the curls and get them formed properly)

We use the BRHG on my daughter with the GF Triple Nutrition conditioner as a leave in and she doesn't get any crunch either. She likes the gel well enough but it's not something I'd buy again honestly--the Got2B gel is working far better to the BRHG for us. Plus it's cheaper!

Frankly it is one of the few products where my experience was just completely opposite of nearly everyone else it seems.
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I did not get any crunch whatsoever from BRHG. All it did was weigh my hair down and it looked awful. I have no idea what causes that as every other gel I've used has left more than enough crunch to scrunch out (I need this as well to hold the curls and get them formed properly)

We use the BRHG on my daughter with the GF Triple Nutrition conditioner as a leave in and she doesn't get any crunch either. She likes the gel well enough but it's not something I'd buy again honestly--the Got2B gel is working far better to the BRHG for us. Plus it's cheaper!

Frankly it is one of the few products where my experience was just completely opposite of nearly everyone else it seems.
Originally Posted by Alexjoujou
Interesting - I haven't had this problem with BRHG. It gives me good hold, volume and no producty feeling whatsover (regardless of amount).
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3a; med-coarse; ii; med or high porosity (or a mix); med elasticity
LOVE CJ products but CJ is no longer sold in Europe and does not ship to Europe so looking for other products. Like Crown Pride and Curly Kinks.
Tools: curlease towel, wide toothed plastic comb, Braun Satin Pro Diffuser.
Current HG: CJ CCCC-lite+BRHG
http://public.fotki.com/s-curl-7/
Do you guys have the old or the new formula? The new formula has the purple circle with "style" written on it (I think it's a circle??). I don't know offhand what the difference in ingredients are but maybe that makes a difference. I have the new formulation and I get crunch - not much since I usually only use a tiny bit to boost a weaker holding gel but definitely crunch.
http://public.fotki.com/msgiblet/ - pw: gibber -- Pics Added 7/10/11
Fine, Thick, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

Countess Balashi of Divi Beach in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

If I'm Going To Have A Bad Hair Day, It Might As Well Be In Aruba!

I use BRHG with AOMM - which is moisturizing. I only use a tiny bit of AOMM since it's summer but I still get crunch. I use more BRHG than most because more crunch leads to better 2nd day hair.
3b | low-normal porosity (still confused, definitely not high porosity) | med to coarse texture

Co-Wash: most any silicone free V05 or Suave | RO: GVP Cond. Balm, GVP Joico K Pak, Tresemme Naturals Moisutrizing Cond., SheaMoisture Shea Butter Restorative Cond. | LI: one of my rinse outs | DT: one of my rinse outs with oil | Stylers: BRHG
When I use BRHG over creams or leave-ins I get next-to-no crunch. For some reason, gels with lighter hold (like Angell and ArcAngell) give me tons of crunch. Pretty much the opposite of what most people here seem to experience... *shrug*
Brooklyn, NY

Hair: 3A/B, Underlayer of 2B
HG products:
Winter- Giovanni Tea Tree (co-wash) & 50/50 (condish); Curl Junkie Curl Assurance Leave-In; Curls Milkshake & Quenched Curls; Re:coil; BRHG
Summer: DevaCurl No Poo & OneC; CK; Re:coil; BRHG; Honey!!!

fotki pw= crrrls
Although I always get plenty of crunch and hold, I only get that really plastic helmet crunch when I use BRHG without a leave-in or moisturizing styling product under it.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
Do you guys have the old or the new formula? The new formula has the purple circle with "style" written on it (I think it's a circle??). I don't know offhand what the difference in ingredients are but maybe that makes a difference. I have the new formulation and I get crunch - not much since I usually only use a tiny bit to boost a weaker holding gel but definitely crunch.
Originally Posted by msgiblet
I have the new formula with the purple circle at the top. Would be interesting to know what the difference is between the old and the new formula.

Ingredient list on my bottle:
Water, PVP, Acrylates/Steareth-20 Itaconate Copolymer, Propylene Glycol, Hydrolyzed Silk, Panthenol, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Triethanolamine, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Parfum, Hexyl Cinnamic Aldehyde, Benzyl Benzoate, Linalool, Gamma Methyl Ionone, Citronellol, Lilial, Hydroxy Citronellol, Geraniol, Eugenol, Blue 1, Red 33.
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3a; med-coarse; ii; med or high porosity (or a mix); med elasticity
LOVE CJ products but CJ is no longer sold in Europe and does not ship to Europe so looking for other products. Like Crown Pride and Curly Kinks.
Tools: curlease towel, wide toothed plastic comb, Braun Satin Pro Diffuser.
Current HG: CJ CCCC-lite+BRHG
http://public.fotki.com/s-curl-7/
Mine's probably the old formula as I've probably had for at least 8-9 months. Don't have its ingredient list available.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett

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