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Old 08-05-2009, 09:29 PM   #1
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Co washing never worked for me in the past because of the build up but I started again using a tea tree conditioner and its working wonderfully...for now anyway. I was just wondering if conditioning after a co wash is overkill. I feel like I need a protein conditioner for strength but i'm so used to shampooing that I may not need the protein anymore. Also I find that the extra conditioning tends to leave build up on the hair. Any opinions?
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:37 PM   #2
 
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I've never viewed it as overkill - in fact I thought it was part of the original CG routine - but it all depends on what your hair likes. I co-wash (or water-wash), rinse it out, then add in my lighter conditioner, rinse it out, and rake through more of the light conditioner as a leave-in. My hair doesn't overcondition easily but water-washing quite often keeps it at bay. If you're getting build-up, have you tried a deep conditioner, or a low-poo?
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I always do, but I don't know if everyone does - see what works for your hair. Trying it both ways can't hurt.
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I don't cowash, switched over to natural soap bars (which are very gentle) after six months of cowashing. My hair prefers it--tighter curls and more volume. They are very gentle (a little more than nopoo/cowash) but remove that "residual" product from using some of the "heavier" CG products.

My other thought was--do you think it's build up or overconditioned? If it's overconditioned, an occasional ACV rinse should help with that.
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I condition after co-washing but I use a protein conditioner. Previously I was using Biolage Conditioning Balm as my rinse-out conditioner and it led to my getting overconditioned. I would treat that by alternating co-washing with water-washing. I found by switching to a protein conditioner, Kenra, I did not suffer from overconditioning any longer.
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It's only overkill if you don't need that much conditioner. I alternate weeks between soap bars and co-washing. I always condition after co-washing but I only co-wash once a week. If I was to fully wet my hair more often, I would water wash then lightly condition or not at all - otherwise I would end up over conditioned.

But it totally depends on your own hairs' properties and needs.
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I condition after co-washing but I use a protein conditioner. Previously I was using Biolage Conditioning Balm as my rinse-out conditioner and it led to my getting overconditioned. I would treat that by alternating co-washing with water-washing. I found by switching to a protein conditioner, Kenra, I did not suffer from overconditioning any longer.
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I treat co washing just like shampooing. I always conditon afterward. My hair is too dry and my co wash is too light not to.
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I've never viewed it as overkill - in fact I thought it was part of the original CG routine - but it all depends on what your hair likes. I co-wash (or water-wash), rinse it out, then add in my lighter conditioner, rinse it out, and rake through more of the light conditioner as a leave-in. My hair doesn't overcondition easily but water-washing quite often keeps it at bay. If you're getting build-up, have you tried a deep conditioner, or a low-poo?
That is my routine as well usually. But, I sometimes do not use a rinse out after either the co or water wash...I will go straight to the leave in. I find this works well with the ABBA gentle leave in.
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I treat co washing just like shampooing. I always conditon afterward. My hair is too dry and my co wash is too light not to.
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I co-wash with KCKT and then use a rich conditioner as a rinse out like AOHR.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:07 PM   #11
 
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I treat co washing just like shampooing. I always condition afterward. My hair is too dry and my co wash is too light not to.
exactly the same for me. If i didnt condition after co-washing my hair would be way too dry. I need the moisture.
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No, it's not overkill. Although sometimes I'll use a rich conditioner to co-wash, condition and detangle in one cycle.
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I treat co washing just like shampooing. I always condition afterward. My hair is too dry and my co wash is too light not to.
exactly the same for me. If i didnt condition after co-washing my hair would be way too dry. I need the moisture.
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I think it is just based on what your hair needs. Before I started CG I was always under the impression my hair was very oily and actually I couldn't remember the last time I used conditioner..I always just shampooed. Which probably explains why I thought it was oily with all that stripping of my hair going on

I find the ingredients in the conditioner matter A LOT. I will get over conditioned if I use a conditioner that has a lot of oils in it. Leaves my hair flat, lifeless, and gross feeling. Like some of the others have noted I switched to lighter conditioners (use Giovanni Tea Tree or Trader Joe's Tee Tree) or conditioners with protein (Generic for KPak which my hair just LOVES!) and I didn't have the problem.

I tried that Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition one and it was a disaster as there are many oils in it--it worked wonderfully with my daughters hair which is more fine to coarse and very thick--whereas the Kpak was a disaster producing in her hair massive tangles.

I also think your water quality comes into play and how well you rinse out. I've found when I thoroughly rinse out the conditioner (not the cowash one which is step 1) and then add some more only to the ends and drier areas I don't get build up at all. I also do the three steps (co wash, conditioner, leave in). I adjust the leave in depending on the products I am using--since I'm using the Freida mousse and the Got2B gel I need significantly more leave in than with some other products as these two seem to make my hair dry.
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I almost never condition after washing. 2 or 3 times a week I co-wash and detangle with Suave or VO5, then add gel. The other days I just water wash and add gel.

I do add a bit of Ojon almost every day after my hair is dry so maybe that's the only conditioning my hair needs?
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I tend to go with how my hair feels - sometimes I will condition after co wash but other times I don't. But I dont co wash every day. Most days I'll use a little bit of co on the ends of my hair if I'm wetting it in the shower depending on how it feels.
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I tend to go with how my hair feels - sometimes I will condition after co wash but other times I don't. But I dont co wash every day. Most days I'll use a little bit of co on the ends of my hair if I'm wetting it in the shower depending on how it feels.
i am on full cg routine at the moment for the 5th time my routine is that i co wash every other day and apply my leave in however i have noticed some build up already so i will try waterwashing for a couple of days and see if things improve if not i may have too low poo or shampoo bar / acv rinse.
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No, it's not overkill. Although sometimes I'll use a rich conditioner to co-wash, condition and detangle in one cycle.

Same here. In fact, I don't use light conditioner at all. Right now I have a rotation of 4 different conditioners that are all fairly rich. I use all but one for co-washing and conditioning all in one step (the 4th is just for conditioning). With the rotation, this has worked well for me.
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:34 PM   #19
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Thank you everyone for responding and your opinions. Sorry it took so long to respond, had some computer issues. Since I didn't have access to my personal computer to view your responses I kept co-washing with the tea tree conditioner, added in a little baking soda the first time to clarify, and used a rich conditioner afterwards. This routine is working very well. As a matter of fact soon after this post I went to a salon for a trim and ofcourse theyshampoo'd me first. My scalp was super dry and tight after that shampoo and I couldn't wait to get back to my co-washes. I realized that what I thought was build-up was something called "moisture" LOL that my hair and scalp had been deprived of. It's amazing how just alleviating shampoo has made a difference in the texture of my hair and the condition of my scalp.
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