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Old 08-10-2009, 07:53 PM   #1
 
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Hey curlies!

Ok so I'm new here and I'm new to the no-poo thing. I made a committment to become a CG on Saturday (when I found this site & joined) and now I'm a bit overwhelmed and I need to know if I'm on the right track.

Since I'm on a tighter budget right now, I went and got Suave naturals coconut conditioner (I saw it was recommended in quite a few posts) and a VO5 conditioner. I plan to use these for my co-washes. I am currently using a shea butter leave in conditioner (by Cantu) after washing when I plop & scrunch my curls. My plan is to get/try Mixed Chicks leave in later.

Am I correct that I can also use one of my conditioners (Suave or V05) as a leave in as well? Do you mix the leave in with something else to get a better effect?

I have also read about homemade protien treatments on here too using egg, mayo, honey, yogurt, etc. Is this something to do before you shampoo? Then condition and put in leave in as usual? How often would you guys recommend doing a protein treatment?

One more, I've also read about washing your hair with bar soap to get rid of buildup vs. using a sulfate shampoo. This might be a dumb question but, are they referring to regular bar soap that you bathe with or is there a special bar soap for hair?

Ok, I think that's it for now....thanks in advance for all your help!!

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Hey curlies!

Ok so I'm new here and I'm new to the no-poo thing. I made a committment to become a CG on Saturday (when I found this site & joined) and now I'm a bit overwhelmed and I need to know if I'm on the right track.

Since I'm on a tighter budget right now, I went and got Suave naturals coconut conditioner (I saw it was recommended in quite a few posts) and a VO5 conditioner. I plan to use these for my co-washes. I am currently using a shea butter leave in conditioner (by Cantu) after washing when I plop & scrunch my curls. My plan is to get/try Mixed Chicks leave in later.

Am I correct that I can also use one of my conditioners (Suave or V05) as a leave in as well? Do you mix the leave in with something else to get a better effect?

I have also read about homemade protien treatments on here too using egg, mayo, honey, yogurt, etc. Is this something to do before you shampoo? Then condition and put in leave in as usual? How often would you guys recommend doing a protein treatment?

One more, I've also read about washing your hair with bar soap to get rid of buildup vs. using a sulfate shampoo. This might be a dumb question but, are they referring to regular bar soap that you bathe with or is there a special bar soap for hair?

Ok, I think that's it for now....thanks in advance for all your help!!

Marsha
Hi Marsha,

Welcome to the board. I hope I can answer some of your questions. Glad to hear you are starting CG.

You are definitely correct that you can use the Suave or VO5 as a leave in also. If you need something that adds more moisture you can always add a few drops of jojoba, coconut or other good hair oils or pure shea (unrefined) or cocoa butter. But if you use the Cantu you don't need to add anything to the Suave and VO5. You can co-wash with Suave or VO5, use the Cantu as a leave in.

The soap bars are actually all natural soaps made from saponified oils. You cannot wash your hair with regular bar soap (ie. dove, ivory etc) because they contain the sulfates that are also in shampoos. The website below sells the good soap bars and they are cheap.

http://naturalsoapwholesale.com/Orga...-Soap-Shop-c9/
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:45 PM   #3
 
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Thanks Belasuna!

Ok so I feel more comfortable now! Whew! We already buy all natural soaps from the same place we get our shea butter from so I guess that should be good. Actually my husband said I'm late b/c that's what he washes his hair with! LOL

I've also heard that Sally's GVP products are good (conditioners & gel) so I'm gonna check that out. Any recommendations?

I wanna try to make that FSG stuff...sounds fun!
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I've also heard that Sally's GVP products are good (conditioners & gel) so I'm gonna check that out. Any recommendations?
Glad you joined the CG family! I am a Sally's pj for sure...everything I use is from there. I really love the GVP line! See my siggy for products. The GVP Conditioning Balm seems especially popular here.

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Just a little info since you're just starting CG. Cantu shea butter leave in has a silicone in it (Trimethylsilylamodimethicone). You'll need to shampoo to remove it or it can build up on you. for me it built up really fast -even when using a sulfate shampoo.

Mixed Chicks leave in contains amodimethicone - another silicone. This one builds up on some people but not on other people. For me it built up very fast and I needed to shampoo it out.

For both of these products a low poo should remove the silicone. But if you're going the strict CG route you may not want to use shampoo. Shampoo bars will not remove the silicones.

For the proteins - pay attention to what's in your products. Some of the Suave and VO5's have protein in them - the cantu has protein in it too. I don't know about the mixed chicks leave in. You don't want to overload on protein. And if your hair is coarse you definitely don't want it. It can leave your hair dry brittle and cause breakage if you over load or if your hair is protein sensitive. If you find you can use protein - after doing a protein deep treatment always remember to do a moisturizing deep treatment.

Just some things to think about so that you don't run into any surprises early on.
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Hey curlies!

Ok so I'm new here and I'm new to the no-poo thing. I made a committment to become a CG on Saturday (when I found this site & joined) and now I'm a bit overwhelmed and I need to know if I'm on the right track.

Since I'm on a tighter budget right now, I went and got Suave naturals coconut conditioner (I saw it was recommended in quite a few posts) and a VO5 conditioner. I plan to use these for my co-washes. I am currently using a shea butter leave in conditioner (by Cantu) after washing when I plop & scrunch my curls. My plan is to get/try Mixed Chicks leave in later.

Am I correct that I can also use one of my conditioners (Suave or V05) as a leave in as well? Do you mix the leave in with something else to get a better effect?

I have also read about homemade protien treatments on here too using egg, mayo, honey, yogurt, etc. Is this something to do before you shampoo? Then condition and put in leave in as usual? How often would you guys recommend doing a protein treatment?

One more, I've also read about washing your hair with bar soap to get rid of buildup vs. using a sulfate shampoo. This might be a dumb question but, are they referring to regular bar soap that you bathe with or is there a special bar soap for hair?

Ok, I think that's it for now....thanks in advance for all your help!!

Marsha
Hi and welcome!

I agree about the cantu and mixed chicks having silicones. I use Suave coconut conditioner and love it, both to cowash and as a leave in (on occasion).

Another Sally's available conditioner that is cone free is GVP conditioning balm.

I do my a homemade protein treatment about every 6 weeks depending on if I think I need it.

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Technically, Trimethylsilylamodimethicone is a cone that is "supposed" to resist buildup. And since conditioners (both regular and CG) generally contain mild surfactants, if you co-wash, shouldn't that be good enough to remove it?
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no - it's similar to amodimethicone in that it's not supposed to build up. However some people have problems with it building up regardless. I am one of those. It's designed to lay down a coating over the hair that supposedly doesn't build up. Once the coating is there it's there and doesn't get thicker. For some people that's the case for others either it builds up or the coating it lays down is enough to wreak havoc. However you'd need a low poo or a shampoo to remove it.
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Technically, Trimethylsilylamodimethicone is a cone that is "supposed" to resist buildup. And since conditioners (both regular and CG) generally contain mild surfactants, if you co-wash, shouldn't that be good enough to remove it?
no - it's similar to amodimethicone in that it's not supposed to build up. However some people have problems with it building up regardless. I am one of those. It's designed to lay down a coating over the hair that supposedly doesn't build up. Once the coating is there it's there and doesn't get thicker. For some people that's the case for others either it builds up or the coating it lays down is enough to wreak havoc. However you'd need a low poo or a shampoo to remove it.
Thanks for the info!
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Wow ladies! Thanks for all the info! I want to use as little to no cones as possible so I will try the GVP stuff first instead of Mixed Chicks.

There's so much to learn here!

Oh, btw, I used the Suave Coconut condish today to wash and I love the results! I used the Cantu also and found some curl gel I had from eons ago (Curl Up by KMS) and I really had a great hair day!
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[/quote]I do my a homemade protein treatment about every 6 weeks depending on if I think I need it.

Hope that helps[/quote]

What is your homemade protein treatment??
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Hey curlies!

Ok so I'm new here and I'm new to the no-poo thing. I made a committment to become a CG on Saturday (when I found this site & joined) and now I'm a bit overwhelmed and I need to know if I'm on the right track.

Since I'm on a tighter budget right now, I went and got Suave naturals coconut conditioner (I saw it was recommended in quite a few posts) and a VO5 conditioner. I plan to use these for my co-washes. I am currently using a shea butter leave in conditioner (by Cantu) after washing when I plop & scrunch my curls. My plan is to get/try Mixed Chicks leave in later.

Am I correct that I can also use one of my conditioners (Suave or V05) as a leave in as well? Do you mix the leave in with something else to get a better effect?

I have also read about homemade protien treatments on here too using egg, mayo, honey, yogurt, etc. Is this something to do before you shampoo? Then condition and put in leave in as usual? How often would you guys recommend doing a protein treatment?

One more, I've also read about washing your hair with bar soap to get rid of buildup vs. using a sulfate shampoo. This might be a dumb question but, are they referring to regular bar soap that you bathe with or is there a special bar soap for hair?

Ok, I think that's it for now....thanks in advance for all your help!!

Marsha
Hi and welcome!

I agree about the cantu and mixed chicks having silicones. I use Suave coconut conditioner and love it, both to cowash and as a leave in (on occasion).

Another Sally's available conditioner that is cone free is GVP conditioning balm.

I do my a homemade protein treatment about every 6 weeks depending on if I think I need it.

Hope that helps

What exactly is your homemade protein treatment? I've never tried any so I'm looking for ideas.

Thanks!
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Wow ladies! Thanks for all the info! I want to use as little to no cones as possible so I will try the GVP stuff first instead of Mixed Chicks.

There's so much to learn here!

Oh, btw, I used the Suave Coconut condish today to wash and I love the results! I used the Cantu also and found some curl gel I had from eons ago (Curl Up by KMS) and I really had a great hair day!
Hopefully you are on the way to many more good hair days!
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Hey curlies!

Ok so I'm new here and I'm new to the no-poo thing. I made a committment to become a CG on Saturday (when I found this site & joined) and now I'm a bit overwhelmed and I need to know if I'm on the right track.

Since I'm on a tighter budget right now, I went and got Suave naturals coconut conditioner (I saw it was recommended in quite a few posts) and a VO5 conditioner. I plan to use these for my co-washes. I am currently using a shea butter leave in conditioner (by Cantu) after washing when I plop & scrunch my curls. My plan is to get/try Mixed Chicks leave in later.

Am I correct that I can also use one of my conditioners (Suave or V05) as a leave in as well? Do you mix the leave in with something else to get a better effect?

I have also read about homemade protien treatments on here too using egg, mayo, honey, yogurt, etc. Is this something to do before you shampoo? Then condition and put in leave in as usual? How often would you guys recommend doing a protein treatment?

One more, I've also read about washing your hair with bar soap to get rid of buildup vs. using a sulfate shampoo. This might be a dumb question but, are they referring to regular bar soap that you bathe with or is there a special bar soap for hair?

Ok, I think that's it for now....thanks in advance for all your help!!

Marsha
Hi and welcome!

I agree about the cantu and mixed chicks having silicones. I use Suave coconut conditioner and love it, both to cowash and as a leave in (on occasion).

Another Sally's available conditioner that is cone free is GVP conditioning balm.

I do my a homemade protein treatment about every 6 weeks depending on if I think I need it.

Hope that helps

What exactly is your homemade protein treatment? I've never tried any so I'm looking for ideas.

Thanks!
Hey, it's nothing special, here is the link to the recipe:
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Hi and welcome!

I agree about the cantu and mixed chicks having silicones. I use Suave coconut conditioner and love it, both to cowash and as a leave in (on occasion).

Another Sally's available conditioner that is cone free is GVP conditioning balm.

I do my a homemade protein treatment about every 6 weeks depending on if I think I need it.

Hope that helps

What exactly is your homemade protein treatment? I've never tried any so I'm looking for ideas.

Thanks!
Hey, it's nothing special, here is the link to the recipe:
http://newlynatural.com/blog/?p=123
It does! Thanks so much!
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