Havn't washed my hair in 2 Months-help!

Hi, I'm new to the forums because I'm having serious trouble with my hair.

When I wash my hair with shampoo my hair is STRAIGHT. But, when I don't wash it, my natural oils in my hair curl and I like my curly hair better. But, when I don't wash my hair, I get dandruff and dirty builds up. Is there a way to wash my hair without removing my oils and just the dirt? I think I should be co washing, and I tried the Wen product but I didn't like it because it was too smelly and too heavy. Is there an good product out there for me? I have big curls probably a 2c, 3a, around there and I am male. Also, my curls could use some help to be more curly but I really don't want to put leave-in products in my hair. I'd rather it just be a one step process. I think I want to use an all natural product because I've heard that it is healthier for the hair and scalp. Does anybody have any suggestions for me? I like to keep my curls in best shape as possible, but it really only works when my oil is present.

Thanks!
Is the giovanni product good? I can go to whole foods and get that product I think if anybody suggests it. Also, I used the wen product and it seamed to make my hair poofy. I hate that. When my hair has its natural oils in it my strands stick together to build curly locks. The wen product seemed to stop working after a while. Also my hair seems to be straigther on the top of my head than on the sides. Is there a way to even the curliness out?
my curls dont have much shape at the top of my head.

Last edited by oojack; 08-21-2009 at 03:53 PM. Reason: f
I know I am going to have to find my own routine for my own hair and its going to be a long journey. But, can someone please start me in the right direction with a simple, healthy, natural co wash?

What about AVALON Olive & Grape Seed Moisturizing Conditioner?
Ingredients
Purified Water, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice(1), Cetearyl Alcohol, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil(2), Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil(3), Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil(3), Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Linum Usitatissimum (Linseed*) Seed Oil(4), Borago Officinalis Seed Oil(3), Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil(4), Squalane, Panthenol, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Protein, Citric Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Ethylhexylglycerin.


Would this help my curls have more shape? Does this product have protein? I don't want a protein product.

Last edited by oojack; 08-21-2009 at 05:03 PM.
I know I am going to have to find my own routine for my own hair and its going to be a long journey. But, can someone please start me in the right direction with a simple, healthy, natural co wash?

What about AVALON Olive & Grape Seed Moisturizing Conditioner?
Ingredients
Purified Water, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice(1), Cetearyl Alcohol, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil(2), Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil(3), Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil(3), Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Linum Usitatissimum (Linseed*) Seed Oil(4), Borago Officinalis Seed Oil(3), Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil(4), Squalane, Panthenol, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Protein, Citric Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Ethylhexylglycerin.


Would this help my curls have more shape? Does this product have protein? I don't want a protein product.
Originally Posted by oojack
I would co-wash. It takes a bit for your hair to get used to the conditioner only wash. Just stick with it. It shouldn't take too long to get some results.

The condish you listed has protein. I bolded it. It is far down on the list so it may not be a problem. I was protein sensitive when I began CG, but now I find that the protein gives me a tighter curl.

Test out products. It really depends. As long as you keep it CG friendly, you should be ok.

When I first started I really liked the Biolage condish. (You can get GVP at sally's for $5). It is really thick so it really gives you tons of moisture.

Check it out. It may do the trick.

Good luck.

Mix of 3s, thick, coarse, medium porosity

Current hair styling technique: rake with a scrunch at the end. (works with my coarse hair)

http://public.fotki.com/curlymix/
pw: curls

Known HGs: KCCC, homemade fsg, honey
If you haven't washed your hair AT ALL in the last 2 months then you might want to use a shampoo and then start with a good co wash routine.

The newbie section should be able to answer most of your questions to start with and give you some good product recommendations.
CG - 3/27/09
3b - dry - medium texture/medium porosity!
Co wash/rinseout/leave in: currently auditioning products
Styling: lube and BRHG
If you haven't washed your hair AT ALL in the last 2 months then you might want to use a shampoo and then start with a good co wash routine.

The newbie section should be able to answer most of your questions to start with and give you some good product recommendations.
Originally Posted by tinah
I second this and also using the GVP Conditioning Balm. I love doing water washes on most days. Warm water and a really good scalp massage (pads of fingers ONLY!!) followed by the GVP CB.

Good luck!
Heather

3a, med texture, normal porosity
poo: one 'n only shiny silver (occasionally)
co-wash/rinse out: assorted V05 "flavors"
leave-in/dt: gvp cb
stylers: ecostyler, bioterra curl cream, salon care aloe vera gel
hair loves: plopping, clipping & diffusing

isally's


I just went and bought a conditioner. Bee-ceuticals-im not sure if its working well because there is a wweird white residue left on my hands and I don't see any dirt coming out of my hair. Do I need a rinse out shampoo or something to rinse out my conditioner from my co wash? All I did was do a co wash and then rinse it out with water but nothing seemed to come out.

Last edited by oojack; 08-21-2009 at 07:07 PM.
I know I am going to have to find my own routine for my own hair and its going to be a long journey. But, can someone please start me in the right direction with a simple, healthy, natural co wash?

What about AVALON Olive & Grape Seed Moisturizing Conditioner?
Ingredients
Purified Water, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice(1), Cetearyl Alcohol, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil(2), Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil(3), Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil(3), Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Linum Usitatissimum (Linseed*) Seed Oil(4), Borago Officinalis Seed Oil(3), Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil(4), Squalane, Panthenol, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Protein, Citric Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Ethylhexylglycerin.


Would this help my curls have more shape? Does this product have protein? I don't want a protein product.
Originally Posted by oojack

I bought the Avalon Olive and Grape Seed condish the other day to use as a rinse out condish, and I can tell you that it does indeed rinse out completely, if you just keep rinsing. I rinsed it so thoroughly the first time I used it that there wasn't a bit of it left on my hair to condition it. So that means it should work well as a co-wash.

Do you know for sure that you need to avoid protein? If you're not certain that protein reacts badly on your hair, the small amount in the Avalon very likely won't be a problem.

And I agree that if you haven't shampooed in 2 months, you most likely really should start with a sulfate shampoo (using a cone free shampoo), to start your CG experience with a clean slate. Dirt, sebum and hair oils alone would build up a LOT in that amount of time, and it would most likely take a shampoo to get that buildup out. Sounds like maybe you need to do that now anyway, after using the Bee-ceuticals, since it seems to have left some kind of waxy buildup.
co-wash - Suave Naturals Coconut
condish - Trader Joe's TTT and Refresh
styling - FOTE, shea butter, jojoba oil, LA Looks

Kryptonite: Stearalkonium Chloride, quats
Ok so I went to the market and bought a sulfate shampoo and I shampood with that and all this black dirt came out. Then I conditioned with VO5 Strengthening Conditioner pomegranate/grape. The shampoo felt like it all came out but the conditioner didnt feel like it all came out and my hair felt kind of slimy. Is this the normal feeling of conditioner?
Conditioners do give a slimey type of feel, conditioner with good slip is something a lot of us need. You say that black stuff came off when you shampoo'd? I wonder if you had a build up issue, if it was then washing with the sulfates was probably a good thing.. now just continue on with your co washes. Are you using any other products on your hair at all that could have caused buildup? Or do you have work or any other activites that would cause your hair to get quite dirty? I just bought Giovanni shampoo and conditioner and I love love love it, the shampoo is sulfate free and can be found at rite aid, target and i'm sure other easy access places. I intend on doing a lowpoo every now and then, this time I used it because I had product from the salon in my hair that i'm sure was loaded with cones.
Was it just slimy when wet or did it dry slimy?

Generally I still feel a bit slimy when wet. It's just my hair type I guess. I use product but when it dries (I scrunch out the crunch from the product) my hair takes at least 1 hour to "settle" down and not look greasy or stringy. I have no idea why but usually after about an hour it kind of all falls into place and looks better.

As long as the conditioner doesn't have any form of silicone's you should be fine. Good that you washed first as that will get everything situated.

I also recommend, after rinsing very well, to use a cold water rinse--this helps me with the "slimy" type feeling and my hair looks better when dry if I do this.
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it was slimy when wet, althought I don't like the smell of the conditioner so I think im going to try avalon organics grape/olive for a co wash since I heard that it is scent free. How much do I use during co-wash? A handfull? A quater size?
At first you may find that you need more condish.

Eventually that will change.

V05 makes a tea scented condish that is pretty mild smelling. Not the blackberry sage, but there is a camomile or something and an another mild tea scent. You might want to check them out.

Mix of 3s, thick, coarse, medium porosity

Current hair styling technique: rake with a scrunch at the end. (works with my coarse hair)

http://public.fotki.com/curlymix/
pw: curls

Known HGs: KCCC, homemade fsg, honey
I know I am going to have to find my own routine for my own hair and its going to be a long journey. But, can someone please start me in the right direction with a simple, healthy, natural co wash?

What about AVALON Olive & Grape Seed Moisturizing Conditioner?
Ingredients
Purified Water, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice(1), Cetearyl Alcohol, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil(2), Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil(3), Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil(3), Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Linum Usitatissimum (Linseed*) Seed Oil(4), Borago Officinalis Seed Oil(3), Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil(4), Squalane, Panthenol, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Protein, Citric Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Ethylhexylglycerin.


Would this help my curls have more shape? Does this product have protein? I don't want a protein product.
Originally Posted by oojack

I bought the Avalon Olive and Grape Seed condish the other day to use as a rinse out condish, and I can tell you that it does indeed rinse out completely, if you just keep rinsing. I rinsed it so thoroughly the first time I used it that there wasn't a bit of it left on my hair to condition it. So that means it should work well as a co-wash.

Do you know for sure that you need to avoid protein? If you're not certain that protein reacts badly on your hair, the small amount in the Avalon very likely won't be a problem.

And I agree that if you haven't shampooed in 2 months, you most likely really should start with a sulfate shampoo (using a cone free shampoo), to start your CG experience with a clean slate. Dirt, sebum and hair oils alone would build up a LOT in that amount of time, and it would most likely take a shampoo to get that buildup out. Sounds like maybe you need to do that now anyway, after using the Bee-ceuticals, since it seems to have left some kind of waxy buildup.
Originally Posted by Future Wave

Hey, how long did it take you to fully rinse out your hair of the avalon organics grape/olive conditioner? I don't have much time in the shower since Im in school and usually in a rush. If I only use this product will there be build up?

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