hard water ruining hair....

Hi! I have moved to a dorm not too long ago and my hair has been terribly frizzy and UGH!!!!
I haven't switched products so I think it must be the hard water....
Is there anything I could do to fix this problem.
(buying a filter is not an option)...
Hair Type: 3b /3a?.... medium texture, normal porosity

Conditioner:
Aussie Moist


Shampoo: Organix Shampoo

Other products: Paul Mitchell Sculpting Foam Mousse, LA looks Sport gel, & whatever is cheapest for a frizz serum.



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A shampoo with salt in it can help neutralize the hardwater. I used to add a little bit of salt to a spray bottle of water and sometimes a few squirts before styling also helped.
Did someone mention hard water? LOL.

Take a look at this Curly Article on hard water here. She has great homemade treatment options as well as how to look for something to cleanse your hair with.

HTH!
Grand Goobah Caedran, Aqueous Infusion of Demulcents, Order of the Curly Crusaders

Fia 2cFi, fine texture, med porosity CG 5-29-09 * My hair loves protein! Currently using : DermOrganics Shampoo and IHM, G2B Kinkier Mousse, Re:Coil VMM, Anything Spiral Solutions! MO Sealing. Coconut Oil Pre-Poo, once a month Hard Water shampoo. Avoiding Glycerin in finishing products.

Goobernut, thank you for pointing out this article. I had the best hair day in a while today because I washed my hair with a regular sulfate-based shampoo with simple ingredients and citric acid as a chelating agent.

I have pretty hard water in my area and low-poo/co-wash/ACV wasn't cutting the buildup. I guess I'm going to have to stay non-CG until I can get a shower filter or softener. I'm hoping to not have to go to industrial-strength shampoo more than once a week.
2B low porosity low elasticity fine texture
I'm not CG - tried it and failed for two years. My scalp hates it.
Deodand, which shampoo did you end up using? I'm looking for something to use for hard water buildup and could really use specific suggestions.
3a/2c, medium texture, thick and dense, normal porosity/elasticity. Cone free since 5/1/09.

Low Poo: JCHCC
Cowash: Giovanni or Suave
Condish: GFTN, SSCC
Stylers: HG is always SSCEJ + LALSG
I've only found one shampoo that was marketed as a sulfate free "chelating" shampoo. L'anza, and it was like 20 bucks a bottle. That having been said, if you find a loo-poo with citric acid higher up on the list, you should be good. Also, Sally's makes a clarifying treatment that is CG. I haven't tried it yet, though I have the little packet in my hot little hands

Its this one. It has all the recommended ingredients, is simple (not too much stuff to interfere with the chelating action), and has no sulfates. however, that packet is 2.99 and I think would be too expensive to use every time.

You can also look for Swimmer's shampoo's, they seem to have the same two ingredients (citric acid and EDTA) in them. Sadly to say, the sally's swimmer and hard water shampoos are kinda debateble. The first surfactant is SODIUM C14-16 OLEFIN, which the girls over at the long hair boards say is very drying. I've found this to be true for me. Low-poos with this as the first ingredients are not my faves. There is also some debate about how gentle SODIUM LAURYL SULFOACETATE is, and that's also another surfactant in both of their swimmers and hard water shampoo.

ACV rinses also should help to remove the hard water build up. So you could alternate different solutions

If you get a shower head filter, make sure its the kind that filters out BOTH hard water and chlorine. The ones they sell at lowes and home depot (at least in my area) only remove chlorine.

Also, a lot of the girls like the Nexuss Aloe Ridd. They used to have a generic at Sally's but my sally's doesn't carry it anymore, and its no longer on the website. They said that though it has sulfates its very moisturizing. I've only used it once, and it worked great, and it didn't feel stripping. But I've only used it once, so I don't know long term how its gonna work.

I'm sorry, I know how bad hard water sucks especially as someone who isn't used to it. Oh, also, whatever you do, don't use bar soap. I've tried this, and from experience, its a build up nightmare. It has something to do with how the soap combines with the minerals in the hard water. Not sure if you use one in your hair, but this goes for your body and your shower too -- and face!

People in not so ridiculous hard water in other parts of the country should have no build up issues with a regular soap bar.
Grand Goobah Caedran, Aqueous Infusion of Demulcents, Order of the Curly Crusaders

Fia 2cFi, fine texture, med porosity CG 5-29-09 * My hair loves protein! Currently using : DermOrganics Shampoo and IHM, G2B Kinkier Mousse, Re:Coil VMM, Anything Spiral Solutions! MO Sealing. Coconut Oil Pre-Poo, once a month Hard Water shampoo. Avoiding Glycerin in finishing products.

I just got back from Sally's. They didn't carry the generic Nexxus one which was what I was hoping for. I bought the Ion Purifying Solutions Hard Water Shampoo. It does look rather harsh in the ingredients but it was the only thing I could find there after an eternity of staring at the shelf. So I'll try it out and we'll see how it goes!

Honestly, I can deal with the effects of drying. I can't take this horrible build up feeling anymore, so this shampoo is looking mighty good right now.
3a/2c, medium texture, thick and dense, normal porosity/elasticity. Cone free since 5/1/09.

Low Poo: JCHCC
Cowash: Giovanni or Suave
Condish: GFTN, SSCC
Stylers: HG is always SSCEJ + LALSG
Ms Giblet (I think) told me that she gets the regular Nexxus Aloe Ridd at CVS. I haven't been by yet to see if my store carries it. I know that my Wal-greens does not.
Grand Goobah Caedran, Aqueous Infusion of Demulcents, Order of the Curly Crusaders

Fia 2cFi, fine texture, med porosity CG 5-29-09 * My hair loves protein! Currently using : DermOrganics Shampoo and IHM, G2B Kinkier Mousse, Re:Coil VMM, Anything Spiral Solutions! MO Sealing. Coconut Oil Pre-Poo, once a month Hard Water shampoo. Avoiding Glycerin in finishing products.

I have hard water that was causing buildup and making my hair frizzy. I ordered a filtered showerhead but obviously you can't do this. I got my hair back to normal shape by doing the following.

1. I washed twice with AO low poo (the desert one, sorry, I can't remember the name)

2. ACV rinse (2 cup water, 2 tb vinegar; you can do 1 cup 1tb if you have short hair)

3. Conditioned but left it on for minimum of 15 minutes.

I repeated the above the very next day. When my hair dried, it was soft with less frizz (I'm never 100% frizzfree b/c I touch my hair too much ) and back to normal.

These are all things that are not expensive and you can keep in your dorm room.
~belasuna
3a/b, very dry, fine/med-coarse, high porosity
CG since 7/27/09
Bella Curl Products
CW: protein free-cleansing creme
CO: protein free MRcondish
Styler: FSG + protein free LI Elixir, Gellie, Shine & Seal Serum
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Kaysara - I swiped some of my hubby's Neutrogena. I will qualify this by saying my hair is virgin, *very* low porosity and tough as hell. I think I was almost babying it too much by treating it the same as other CG's with more issues. I'm not planning on washing with it every day if I can get away from it.

ACV rinses didn't cut my buildup - although they did seem to help for a day or two.
2B low porosity low elasticity fine texture
I'm not CG - tried it and failed for two years. My scalp hates it.
I have awful water and always do a final rinse with good (bottled) water- and never use tap water on my hair for second say spritzs. Theoretically I am reducing mineral build-up on my hair. At least my hair isn't in as bad a shape as my shower head or the shower walls which are covered with mineral build-up that can only be removed with a razor blade!

(cross-posted)
med/coarse; porous; 2c & 3c
protein sensitive
too much glycerin and some oils give me stringlets

!!! LOVE SPRITZ AND CONDISH !!!!

co-wash: Fructis Body Boost condish
low-poo: miss my LLL Green Tea, CJDF
condish/leave-in: DMLI, Elucense MB, KCKT, JCWDT, CJCR, KBB Deep Condish, Marie Dean, Shescensit GTH
style: faves: KCCC, DMCG, AOMMJ, CGG, Elucence Foam, FSG
DT: JCWDT, CJCR, SS Deep Condish



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ditto the apple cider vinegar rinse, 2 times a month does the trick for me. we also have hard water and have for over a year now.
as for cleansers, I swear by Wispering Windz Farms jar soap (shampoos). You can sample them from Kathy Mack or buy straight from Bonnie at her Etsy page. LOVE the stuff http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id...ion_id=5842447
Type: 3a/3b, fine-medium
Cleanse: hg:whispering windz farm jar soaps,
Moisture/Co rinse: GVP conditioning balm
DT: Jessicurl's dt
Leave in: KCKT
Definition: kccc
Hold: rotating: gvp liquid scuplting gel
ACV rinse bi-weekly
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There are a few clarifying/chelating non-sulfate shampoos or treatments I use or have used, that fit the required ingredients on the linked Curl Chemist article, to rid my hair of the hard water minerals.

One is Hair Rules Aloe Grapefruit Purifying.

Another is Ion Crystal Clarifying Treatment.

The most recent is Malibu Hard Water Weekly Demineralizer.

Last edited by lazy loops; 08-29-2009 at 10:09 PM.
Just wanted to report back. I used the Ion shampoo last night. It was a pretty harsh shampoo. I got that stripped clean feeling we all remember from regular sulfate use. However, I tried to replenish everything as best I could with my conditioners and I used KCCC and Komaza as stylers afterwards. My hair is much better today. It feels soft and healthy like it used to and not waxy and gross anymore! Yay!

Hopefully using that shampoo will only need to be a once a week thing at most. Now I just need to figure out a styling routine that works in this weather!
3a/2c, medium texture, thick and dense, normal porosity/elasticity. Cone free since 5/1/09.

Low Poo: JCHCC
Cowash: Giovanni or Suave
Condish: GFTN, SSCC
Stylers: HG is always SSCEJ + LALSG

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