No more Denman for me

I have been using my denman brush pretty regularly the last 3-4 weeks (because of the super soaker method). I 'do' my hair daily as well so it has been daily use for that time period as well. Last night after pulling off clothes, putting clothes etc my hair was a bit fuzzy and flyaway. That is when I noticed I had very short flyaway hairs all over my head!!! The only thing I can attribute them to is that even though my hair is fully untangled when I use the denman is that I am still breaking hairs when I use it. My hair is sooooo fine it must not be able to hold up to the brushing when it's wet and it breaks.

I am pretty sure I noticed this issue back when I first used the denman about a year ago but I promptly forgot about it until now.

I will have to back off on any brushing/fine tooth combing.
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I put my Denman away for the moment, too. I also seem to notice more of the little hairs all over after using the brush for awhile. Then I stop using it and I don't notice them for awhile, then I forget about it and pull the brush back out and the same cycle starts all over again. Oh well..............I don't have too much trouble getting clumps anyway so I'm just avoiding the brush again.
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I had problems with the Denman, too. But kept trying to make it work. Hid it, but would pull it out, etc. I finally gave it to my next door neighbor, so I would stop trying it out!
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I got free of the Denman a month or so ago after using it for years. I detangle with my fingers then run a comb through. My hair looks better already.
My hair is fine, BSL and doesn't like the Denman either. I found a snagless, detangling comb that works well. Less hair cuticle disturbance I think when hair is in a fragile wet state.
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ITA its so not worth it if you are getting breakage or damage!!

Thankfully I have not had that issue. I do, however, have a feeling that once the dews/temps drop, my Denman willhave to be shelved as well (like last year at this time).
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ITA its so not worth it if you are getting breakage or damage!!

Thankfully I have not had that issue. I do, however, have a feeling that once the dews/temps drop, my Denman willhave to be shelved as well (like last year at this time).
Originally Posted by rudeechick
Yeah-I agree. Although why does it have to be so darn difficult???? huh huh huh?
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
I use this (not sure if it's available outside of the UK yet):

http://www.tangleteezer.co.uk/
Sarah.

Based in the UK. 2-something (2b?) hair. Very porous, fine and brittle/fragile

Hair loves: Drip drying, glycerine, shea butter, oils
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Yeah, I have to be really careful of how much I use it, too - I just can't get used to having this fragile, fine hair! Back in the day, I used the Goody equivalent for years, mainly on dry hair, and I didn't give it a thought with my coarse, curlier hair I had then. Never got this kind of damage and breakage .

But I don't think it's even my entire problem now- even when I did't use it at all for about 6 months, I've been getting breakage from clipping, I think - no matter how careful or what type I use, I always seem to have a single hair get caught. I very gently try to get it to release without pulling and breaking. But because of where most of the breakage appears to be, I'm pretty sure that's the cause, so I must not be removing them as successfully as I think.

I even used the CHS roller clamps today, even though I don't like them, because they don't seem to get caught like that. They actually worked a little better than usual.

Super Soaker still works about the same when I distribute product with a wide toothed comb, so I should probably just give my Denman away, too!
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Thankfully I have not had that issue. I do, however, have a feeling that once the dews/temps drop, my Denman willhave to be shelved as well (like last year at this time).
Originally Posted by rudeechick
i am not using a denman brush, but i just started using a wide tooth comb the same way with good results.
why does it not work in lower dew points?
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Thankfully I have not had that issue. I do, however, have a feeling that once the dews/temps drop, my Denman willhave to be shelved as well (like last year at this time).
Originally Posted by rudeechick
i am not using a denman brush, but i just started using a wide tooth comb the same way with good results.
why does it not work in lower dew points?
Originally Posted by rbb
Its just a theory. But I recall using the Denman last summer and then when the Fall came my hair lost alot of its volume and I started from scratch. I will have to see how it works this Fall.
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i wonder if it has to do with the bristles? are they nylon? i remember back before i was cg i bought this wood wide tooth comb that i use to avoid static. however, if it's being used on wet hair?????????
i guess i will live into the answer!
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styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
Wow, that really stinks, xcptnl. Although I own a Denman, I think I've used it about half a dozen times only -- just didn't see any real value in it for my hair. It behaved the same way with or without it.

But given that just about anything will indeed damage the hair cuticle, I guess it's not surprising that you witnessed some breakage. I say chuck that puppy and go back to using your fingers to distribute product!

Seems like the curlies with thicker hair have better luck with the Denman...
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I use this (not sure if it's available outside of the UK yet):

http://www.tangleteezer.co.uk/
Originally Posted by pelicano
The tangle teezer is great! I ordered mine from HQ Hair in the UK. I've only used it to detangle my hair, I didn't think about using it after washing.
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My mother used a denman to get the knots out of my hair when she thought she had to get them and all the curls out and and hair came out with it -- I remember it like a nightmare. That is one brush that would never do on my hair -- I use a wide tooth comb and that does well for this fine hair -- have a lot of hair but the denman would pull out what I have. Just my opinion - if it works for you, use it but it would NEVER work for me.....
I use this (not sure if it's available outside of the UK yet):

http://www.tangleteezer.co.uk/
Originally Posted by pelicano
The tangle teezer is great! I ordered mine from HQ Hair in the UK. I've only used it to detangle my hair, I didn't think about using it after washing.
Originally Posted by bunniee23
It's not as good as others for clumping, but still not bad, and it does seem the safest thing for brushing wet hair.
Sarah.

Based in the UK. 2-something (2b?) hair. Very porous, fine and brittle/fragile

Hair loves: Drip drying, glycerine, shea butter, oils
Hair hates: Plopping, any kind of gel, most conditioners (scalp issues).
i am not using a denman, but as i said earlier, have started using a wide-tooth comb in the shower, after all my styling products are in.
right now i am flipping my head upside down, and combing it from the bottom up.
should i be combing a different way?
also, after i get comb and get out of shower, i blot my hair with curl ease towel, no longer scrunching. should i comb after i blot?
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leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
I've noticed I am getting less definition and more frizz on day 2 than before using the Denman and am starting to think it's due to breakage. I don't really notice a difference on day 1, but definitely so on day 2.

No more Denman for me either!
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It's too bad-I feel like I get better distribution of product with the denman than I do with my wide toothed comb - but gotta do what I gotta do.
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~

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