I don't think it's fair to tip 15% to stylist...

"By all means, dont tip if you really feel we dont deserve it. You apparantly need the $ more than we do. But dont be a repeate customer."

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I have read and my DH has told me some history about tipping. It goes back to the 18th century when a gratuity was given for good service. This is such a controversial subject. I choose to tip for good service which is a personal choice. My stylist, whom is also a good friend, always gets a tip from me. Business is business. Sometimes I think you get what you pay for so, if you choose not to tip, the next time you may not get as good a service. Just my opinion.
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My experience with hair stylists is that they look at my hair....after they do it....and then tell me how much they are going to charge me.

I've gone to a stylist one day and he/she will charge me $1.50 (as an exaggerated example). Then, I'll go back a month later to the same stylist and get the exact same service and then after they do my hair they charge me $2.50.

This has happened on several occasions with different stylists in different salons.

In my case, I do not agree with tipping that stylist with an exorbitant amount of cash when they have floating pricing system on my hair.
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While I participate in our tipping culture and would probably be considered a good tipper by most, I resent the way that I'm expected to tip for any and every kind of satisfactory service, including hair stylists. I know that tipping started out as an occasional thing for exceptional service and that's where I wish it could go back to. I know people say tipping is an incentive to serve you better, but I find that it's not because tips are now expected and budgeted for--such that if a service provider has a bad day for tips, then their regular expenses may not be met which is why on occasion you hear of some unprofessional ones blowing up on people when they don't receive a tip.
I wish everyone providing services would just charge what they want to be paid to maintain their lifestyle. If you think the service you're providing me is worth $50, then don't charge me $40-45 and hope for a tip; just charge $50. I wish waiters and other service employees not in charge of the price structure where they work were paid a living wage. I have never understood that clause in the minimum wage law that allows for a sub-minimum wage, especially when the minimum wage is poverty level pay for an independent adult.
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I've always thought that everyone should have to work at a job where they depended on tips at some point in their life.

It makes people much more sensitive and respectful. I always tip - usually 20%, because the math is easier! If someone does me a good service, it's polite to thank them with a tip. Always.
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So, should I tip 15-20% of say, a $120 cut/color = $18 to 24 if my hair comes out looking like Roseanne Rosanna Danna?

Thats the argument I am hearing here. If its meant to be OPTIONAL, then at whose discreation must I use? My own, of course.

I dont buyt the argument of all the expense the stlist has to incur: blow dryers, etc...we ALL, who work, have similar expenses. I work in Education sales, I drive 200+ miles per week, car getting alot of wear and tear, gas etc. I also use my cell phone a great amount for work. ITS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS! We build the cost/expenses into what we charge people.

Hair stylists are professionals, they charge by their talent, skills, experience. Famous stylists like Jose Eber, Chaz Dean earn $400 +....

Should they get a 20% tip too = $80? To pay their curling iron bill?
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I tip waitresses/waiters at least 20% if it is good service 15, if not. I tip all nail techs and hairdressers very well if I like the service. I don't understand where people are coming from who do not tip, it's always been this way, why would you EVER not tip????. The tipping that is expected when you order something from a counter (Dunkin Donuts, or a deli where you are picking up a sandwiches) burns me to no end. They haven't provided any service except filling your order -- why expect a tip????
^ people expect a tip for that? Never heard of that before.

I tip my hairdresser- it costs me 9 so I give her a 1 tip. No biggie.

Sometimes I tip at restaurants sometimes I don't- and its never something like a percentage- just whatever loose change I have- usually a couple of quid. People always say that waitresses live of their tips- really? I would imagine they live of their wage. I worked in a little cafe (no the same thing I know)- the manager got any tips- didn't bother me I didn't expect any either. I worked for my wages and thats the amount I expected to take home at the end of the day.

Not that I've ever been in this position- but are there still those people who like carry your bags up to your rooms in hotel and then expect a tip? Id never tip someone for that.
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I tip because it's expected, unless the server (stylist, etc.) does a poor job. I understand the points made above about not tipping, but I don't have the energy to fight the system and pay the price.
The tipping that is expected when you order something from a counter (Dunkin Donuts, or a deli where you are picking up a sandwiches) burns me to no end. They haven't provided any service except filling your order -- why expect a tip????
Originally Posted by bettinfla
I've noticed this becoming more prevalent too. For counter pick-up, it's not like they check back with you to see if you need anything else (extra dressing, a drink refill, etc.) so I don't agree with the "jar hint" at the cashier for tipping at those places. Recently, my drive-thru Starbucks started putting a tip jar at the drive-thru window! I guess McDonald's drive-thru will be next? I choose not to tip in those cases (drive-thru or counter service)
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I don't know OP, maybe you have a different relationship with your hairdresser than I do, but I personally really appreciate all the hard work she puts into my hair. I have no problem demonstrating that appreciation through a generous tip. And on that note, I always like to give her a little more at xmas time, but that's just me.

Also, your example for the renting of the chair doesn't fly. Do you know how much renting one of those suckers costs? So it isn't like they are renting the chair and then "keeping" the rest of the money they make cutting hair, footloose and fancy free. A lot of it goes towards that chair. And, as someone else said, the cost of product.
Breezy Baby - why "yikes"? The best person to give her opinion on this subject - someone in the industry - did give her opinion, and backed it up. TBH I find the original poster's comments to be more likely to illicit a "yikes."
I tip 20% for my standard services; sometimes up to 25% if they have gone above and beyond (my colorists spends a TON of extra time handpainting multiple shades of glaze onto my hair after he has done my highlights).

Art is priceless. Plus, my hair is in their hands and they need to feel appreciated the next time I sit in that chair.

Technically you are not expected to tip if the Salon owner works on you, but, if the work is intricate, I will tip anyway.

For the record, I always tip waitstaff 20% (or more if they go above and beyond).
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I got a haircut yesterday for 45 dollars, I tipped 5. I felt bad I didn't give more or to the shampoo girl but I honestly do not have the money. And I certainly want to go back...
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I got a haircut yesterday for 45 dollars, I tipped 5. I felt bad I didn't give more or to the shampoo girl but I honestly do not have the money. And I certainly want to go back...
Originally Posted by Residual
There were a few times money was tight and I couldnt be as generous as I liked; I bit the bullet and said as much when I handed over the tip and the message was well recieved.

I decided a long time ago that if I am quibbling over wether or not to add a buck or 2 to my restaurant tip I should just DO IT. Inevitably you leave the table and realize that for a DOLLAR you could have been a sport - and at the end of the day, whats a dollar. Yes, it adds up, but good service deserves recognition.

FYI if the service sucks (NOT the FOOD, the SERVICE) I will go down to 15 or 10% depending. If its ballsout awful, I wont tip at all. But its got to be offensively bad.
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I wish everyone providing services would just charge what they want to be paid to maintain their lifestyle.
Originally Posted by CoilyOne1812
I would imagine competition plays a role in that one. If one hairstylist decides to be more "honest" about the kind of money she wants to make and raises her prices to include the expected tip, then suddenly it looks like she's more expensive than the other stylists in the area and she loses business. But if there were some way that every stylist could be encouraged to do this, then sure, it would be nice to give stylists the guarantee of that extra income.

For now though, I just factor tipping into the price. If I can't afford to tip, I can't afford to get my hair cut. Being a broke student, I get my hair cut once a year, because that's all I can afford. It sucks, but it ensures that I have the funds to give a good tip every single time I go.
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I got a haircut yesterday for 45 dollars, I tipped 5. I felt bad I didn't give more or to the shampoo girl but I honestly do not have the money. And I certainly want to go back...
Originally Posted by Residual
There were a few times money was tight and I couldnt be as generous as I liked; I bit the bullet and said as much when I handed over the tip and the message was well recieved.

I decided a long time ago that if I am quibbling over wether or not to add a buck or 2 to my restaurant tip I should just DO IT. Inevitably you leave the table and realize that for a DOLLAR you could have been a sport - and at the end of the day, whats a dollar. Yes, it adds up, but good service deserves recognition.

FYI if the service sucks (NOT the FOOD, the SERVICE) I will go down to 15 or 10% depending. If its ballsout awful, I wont tip at all. But its got to be offensively bad.
Originally Posted by rudeechick
I was going to tell them but I felt embarrassed. And I didn't give the tip to the stylist but rather the person at the desk. Is that right? Or should I give it to the stylist?
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People always say that waitresses live of their tips- really? I would imagine they live of their wage.
Originally Posted by kat180
In most states within the US, restaurant owners are allowed to pay their servers a fraction of the legal minimum wage, and servers are expected to supplement that wage with tips to build it up to a living wage. For example, one of my friends applied to a restaurant a few years ago. She was offered $2.50 an hour. That's $20 for a full eight hours of work - about 12 pounds sterling, if my exchange rate is correct.

Assuming a server at this restaurant works full time, five days a week for a month, her employer has paid her $120 - about 72 pounds sterling. That wouldn't even begin to cover rent, much less food and other expenses. It's a tough situation for servers, but it's completely legal. Fortunately, some states have raised the legal pay for servers, allowing them to make minimum wage or even a little better, so they aren't quite so desperate for tips.
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A-cone
I got a haircut yesterday for 45 dollars, I tipped 5. I felt bad I didn't give more or to the shampoo girl but I honestly do not have the money. And I certainly want to go back...
Originally Posted by Residual
There were a few times money was tight and I couldnt be as generous as I liked; I bit the bullet and said as much when I handed over the tip and the message was well recieved.

I decided a long time ago that if I am quibbling over wether or not to add a buck or 2 to my restaurant tip I should just DO IT. Inevitably you leave the table and realize that for a DOLLAR you could have been a sport - and at the end of the day, whats a dollar. Yes, it adds up, but good service deserves recognition.

FYI if the service sucks (NOT the FOOD, the SERVICE) I will go down to 15 or 10% depending. If its ballsout awful, I wont tip at all. But its got to be offensively bad.
Originally Posted by rudeechick
I was going to tell them but I felt embarrassed. And I didn't give the tip to the stylist but rather the person at the desk. Is that right? Or should I give it to the stylist?
Originally Posted by Residual
Do what makes you comfortable. I tip directly because these are stylists I have been using for decades. And yes, saying it is embarrassing - in the moment- but its honest, better than having them think you stiffed them or were not pleased with the work, and spares you the embarrassment you will feel when you go for your return visit.
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There were a few times money was tight and I couldnt be as generous as I liked; I bit the bullet and said as much when I handed over the tip and the message was well recieved.

I decided a long time ago that if I am quibbling over wether or not to add a buck or 2 to my restaurant tip I should just DO IT. Inevitably you leave the table and realize that for a DOLLAR you could have been a sport - and at the end of the day, whats a dollar. Yes, it adds up, but good service deserves recognition.

FYI if the service sucks (NOT the FOOD, the SERVICE) I will go down to 15 or 10% depending. If its ballsout awful, I wont tip at all. But its got to be offensively bad.
Originally Posted by rudeechick
I was going to tell them but I felt embarrassed. And I didn't give the tip to the stylist but rather the person at the desk. Is that right? Or should I give it to the stylist?
Originally Posted by Residual
Do what makes you comfortable. I tip directly because these are stylists I have been using for decades. And yes, saying it is embarrassing - in the moment- but its honest, better than having them think you stiffed them or were not pleased with the work, and spares you the embarrassment you will feel when you go for your return visit.
Originally Posted by rudeechick
OK, next time I will do 10 dollars for the stylist and 5 for the shampoo girl (the cut is always 45 dollars) Sound good?

Because I really loved the service.
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