I don't think it's fair to tip 15% to stylist...


So this brings me to another bone of contention as a stylist far mor irritating that tipping.. How much advance notice do you think you need to give your stylist when you change your appointment time? And, do you think you owe her some compensation for the time you wasted that she couldn't re-book if that cancellation is last minute? Just to be clear, I am talking about a stylist that doesn't get paid by the hour but is a renter or on comission only.
Cynthia
Originally Posted by curlpro
I went to a certain stylist for several years (pre-curly days) and tipped well. Then I had to deal with some health issues and canceled the same day, twice. I felt like she was mad at me. But really, there was nothing I could do! And I thought the fact that I had been a long-time customer who tipped well might help her have some compassion and understanding for my situation. To be honest, I didn't realize that it would cost her money (an open time slot) for me not to make it to my appointment. I guess I've learned my lesson. But we are human, and things happen.

I haven't found a good "curly" stylist yet, and I'm afraid to look! My current stylist is kind-of a beginner, but does okay cutting straight lines, at least better than I could do it, LOL! I just don't have much faith that there are many stylists out there who know how to cut curly hair. Do you think most stylists are good with curly hair, or not?

So this brings me to another bone of contention as a stylist far mor irritating that tipping.. How much advance notice do you think you need to give your stylist when you change your appointment time? And, do you think you owe her some compensation for the time you wasted that she couldn't re-book if that cancellation is last minute? Just to be clear, I am talking about a stylist that doesn't get paid by the hour but is a renter or on comission only.
Cynthia
Originally Posted by curlpro
I went to a certain stylist for several years (pre-curly days) and tipped well. Then I had to deal with some health issues and canceled the same day, twice. I felt like she was mad at me. But really, there was nothing I could do! And I thought the fact that I had been a long-time customer who tipped well might help her have some compassion and understanding for my situation. To be honest, I didn't realize that it would cost her money (an open time slot) for me not to make it to my appointment. I guess I've learned my lesson. But we are human, and things happen.

I haven't found a good "curly" stylist yet, and I'm afraid to look! My current stylist is kind-of a beginner, but does okay cutting straight lines, at least better than I could do it, LOL! I just don't have much faith that there are many stylists out there who know how to cut curly hair. Do you think most stylists are good with curly hair, or not?
Originally Posted by Greencurls
Part of me thinks that if the stylist is accomplished that he or she should have the smarts after all the years in the business to figure out curls jump. A lot of what a stylist is good at is their area of interest, just like everybody else, they are good at what they like. I like curls, so I gravitated toward learning how to cut them and I have them so, that was convenient. I sought out training in the curly area early in my career and trained with companys that had curl enhancing products. Joico, Jingles, Vidal Sassoon, Graham Webb, Paul Mitchell, Aveda (I've been in the business a long time) and I read The Curly Girl, by Lorraine Massey when it was first published. I lived right outside Manhattan, New York and New Jersey has a diverse ethnicity. I had all kinds of hair in my chair. The more you do it the better you get. So, in answer to your question, find a stylist that likes curls and is willing to learn about them and work with you. I think it's elemental, and then I get some weed whacked I don't know what kind of cut and shake my head. Find someone who will take the time to sit down and talk to you about what you want and tell them your hairstory. Working together towards your goal is the only way. When you find that stylist that is willing to listen, grab em.
Cynthia
Definitely don't want to keep a runaway train going...but have to put in my two cents.

Take a look at the root of the word "Gratuity," it is basically made up of the word "Gratitude" right? A tip is not a bribe to do good service, or you would give it BEFORE the service, it is moronic to give it afterwards if that is the point of it... A tip is to show your GRATITUDE for a job well done. If you feel the job was shoddy, don't tip, or tip less.

Please don't stiff anyone regardless of their profession because you have decided in your mind that they make "enough" money. To be brutally honest, that is what I am getting when I hear someone say "Oh, I won't tip 20% on a good service if it is over $XXX" You just said, "I think you make enough money regardless of what you make in reality because I obviously know better, so I am going to decide to unconsciously tell you that you did a bad job at whatever service you provided."

You don't HAVE to tip, but the level at which you do gives feedback to the person you are tipping. In all honesty, you SHOULD be tipping many more professions than is the norm nowadays, but people do exactly what some of you are, and eventually the tips go away.

I am a professional makeup artist. I have worked backstage at fashion shows, theater productions, photoshoots, you name it. I don't EXPECT a tip, but at the same time if I have worked my butt off for you providing an awesome service, using my own products and time, it would be nice to receive some validation. Even if it is a cookie...
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Very interesting thread! I'm also surprised by how strongly some folks feel about not tipping.

Here's my philosophy - if I like my stylist enough to go see her, I give her a good tip (I usually just ask them to add 20% to the bill, regardless of how much it is), and I always add on $5-10 for the woman who shampoos me (she gives great scalp massages and sometimes applies my hair color). I've heard in some places that you don't tip the owner of the salon, but I still tip my stylist even though she owns the place. I mean, she does a great job and I adore her, so why not show appreciation in the customary way? I didn't know holiday gifts were the norm, so that's a good point (I don't get my hair cut that often, though if I go in around holiday time I'll bring something with me).

I've had horrible services where I left no tip, but those were extreme situations. For example, I went in for color once at a supercuts type place (just a quick single-process job), and the stylist got dye ALL OVER ME. Stained my shirt, stained my face, neck, ears, arms, even splattered dye on the book I was reading. Black dye. Sort of apologized and gave me stuff to clean myself up, but really, that was unacceptable. So, I didn't tip her. But I think that's the only time I haven't tipped for a hair service.

I also think it's important to tip folks in the service industry. I travel a lot, and always make it a point to have cash handy to tip bellhops and housekeeping folks - I'm surprised how often people DON'T tip the wonderful folks who clean their hotel rooms. If I'm going to be in a hotel room for a week, I definitely want to show the housekeeping folks how much I appreciate them cleaning up after me.

I see tips as something that SHOULD be paid unless service is bad. The amount is discretionary, of course, but I think not tipping for services because of some kind of principled objection to tipping is lame.

Just my $.02 to beat the dead horse a bit more
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I started this thread and by no means was I stating that because I 'think' they make enough money I won't tip them more.

I questioned the tip on an OVERPRICED service. I am being charged $105 for partial highlights, that is without a blow dry afterwards. Just highlights and $175 ffor full. The average price in Miami is around $60 ffor partial and $90 for full.

A stylist posted that they were thinking of raising their prices to include the tip amount. I wonder if that what this stylist is doing, but I have no way of knowing.

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