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Old 09-23-2009, 03:23 PM   #1
 
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Default bad shampoo ingredient list needed now that I have eczema

I know there is a list out there of the bad ingredients in shampoos. I've seen it before , but I can't find it.

I just went to see the dermatologist, and she says that the itching and massive amount of flakes in my hair is due to eczema. She said I have to shampoo my hair every day and recommended something called DHS with pyrithin? zinc in it. When I went to check it out; it had TEA sulfate in it. I'd like to know if it is a bad sulfate like SLS. Also, really--I have to shampoo everyday?

Oh, and she's presribed Clobetesal which is a med that comes in an alcohol base so it doesn't make the hair greasy. I'm supposed to apply this 2x a day. Alcohol in my hair 2x a day plus shampooing daily? My hair is going to be a absolute wreck. Anyone with eczema with alternatives?
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:08 PM   #2
 
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I've had eczema for the past 12 years (since I was 4). I find it funny that your derm. would tell you to wash every day, because the LAST thing you want to do with eczema is dry it out. I've had to switch over from soap to using facial cleanser (soap-free, hydrating) everywhere else.

When I get eczema on my scalp, I just stay away from using anything with fragrance or dye in that area. I avoid scratching (obviously), and waterwash using the pads of my fingers. If it really needs cleaning, I use a fragrance-free, soap-free face wash on it. Your scalp is skin just like anywhere else- you just have to remember that whatever you put there is going to affect your hair (at least the roots) as well.

Also, alcohol isn't ALL bad for your hair. Cetyl alcohol, I think, is actually moisturizing.
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Yeah, but this is the bad alcohol.

So no one has the link to the list of bad shampoo ingredients? Come on, someone must know where it is found!
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i'm sure you can find the list in the newbie section.

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I have what my doctor called exzema on my scalp and went the medicated shampoo route and the topical steroid route. It only made it worse for me. I have been rinsing with apple cider vinegar and have seen the flakes vanish. Since joining this site I have since discovered that the acv is good for my curls...phew... and I swear by it for my scalp. I just add about 2 tbs to warm water and pout it on my head once I am done my "routine". I also use it as an astringent on my face and it has cleared that up too!!
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Yeah, but this is the bad alcohol.

So no one has the link to the list of bad shampoo ingredients? Come on, someone must know where it is found!
Look here:

http://livecurlylivefree.com/product%20ingredients.htm

or try this:

http://www.wikihow.com/Follow-the-Cu...for-Curly-Hair

Good luck!!
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I know there is a list out there of the bad ingredients in shampoos. I've seen it before , but I can't find it.

I just went to see the dermatologist, and she says that the itching and massive amount of flakes in my hair is due to eczema. She said I have to shampoo my hair every day and recommended something called DHS with pyrithin? zinc in it. When I went to check it out; it had TEA sulfate in it. I'd like to know if it is a bad sulfate like SLS. Also, really--I have to shampoo everyday?

Oh, and she's presribed Clobetesal which is a med that comes in an alcohol base so it doesn't make the hair greasy. I'm supposed to apply this 2x a day. Alcohol in my hair 2x a day plus shampooing daily? My hair is going to be a absolute wreck. Anyone with eczema with alternatives?
My daughter has eczema also, and she just went to the dermatologist last week. The doctor said to use Neutrogena T/Sal Therapeutic Shampoo. She also prescribed Beta-Val Lotion - a clear liquid that you are supposed to dab on your scalp twice a day when needed. The doctor also never said how often to wash her hair, but my daughter shampoos everyday. She only gets flakes and itchy at certain times of the year - certain seasons, so it's not too bad.

fyi - the Neutrogena shampoo contains salicylic acid, cocamidopropyl betaine, sodium c14-16 olefin sulfonate, linoleamidopropyl pg-dimonium chloride phosphate, sodium lauroyl sarcosinate, polyquaternium-22, hexylene blycol, sodium citrate.
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:46 PM   #8
 
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I figured out that propylene glycol in my conditioner was causing eczema on my hands. So now I avoid it. (It was even an ingredient in the eczema medication I was using!)
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:38 PM   #9
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I was going threw itch thing too

I tried medicated shampoo for dandruff with
Pyrithione Zinc,Selenium Sulfide these don't help your scalp they just make feel more dry.

So after many uses, I decided to try something eles. I when to Sally Beauty Supply. I bought GVP Paul Mitchel Tea Tree Shampoo it has dicomonol but work to help with itching. It has cool feeling too. I also straighten my hair once or twice a week. Now the hair straighten have germ free feature that helps lifts out dandruff.

I would honest just straighten your hair out for one day it might lift out the dandruff than back to your routine. Sometimes heat is the only thing can help big time.
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[ Now the hair straighten have germ free feature that helps lifts out dandruff. ]

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Also, I've never really been able to straighten my hair. It's always got some wave in it even when I blow dry it out with a brush. Actually, I don't think I even own a brush any more, just a pic. I got a flat iron two years ago, but have only used it once. I had a lot of little hairs sticking up on my canopy and it was still wavy. I think it also breaking off hairs. I guess I would need a hair straightening tutorial before I tried it again.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:56 PM   #11
 
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I have one small area on my scalp that itches and gets scabby. I've tried all the poos and meds the doctors suggested...none of them worked.
I finally heard about this gem:



I bought it at Walgreens

I put a dab on every night.. put my hair up in a pineapple and it works!
Love this stuff.
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:21 PM   #12
 
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Does the bag balm make you hair greasy?
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Old 10-01-2009, 07:04 PM   #13
 
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I only have a very small area that bothers me.. and it only goes on my scalp. And yes, that small area gets a little greasy. I use it only at night and most of it is gone by the morning and so it's not very noticeable. It washes out when I wash my hair.
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:57 AM   #14
 
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I don't know if this is the list you're looking for or not.

I also found the list below that is from Paula Begoun, who wrote a book called Don't Shop for Hair Care Products Without Me - or something like that. This is a shorter list of ingredients to avoid if you have itchy, sensitive scalp issues:

Shampoo Cleansing Ingredients To Avoid:

Extremely common ingredients

Sodium Lauryl Sulfate
Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate
Ammonium Laureth Sulfate
Ammonium Xylene Sulfonate
TEA Lauryl Sulfate
Sulfur (in dandruff shampoos)
Selenium Sulfide (in dandruff shampoos)

Less common ingredients

Magnesium Sulfate
Sodium Thiosulfate
Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate
Alkyl Sodium Sulfate
Alkyl Benzene Sulfonate
TEA-Dodecylbenzene
Sodium C12-15 Alkyl Sulfate
Sodium Dodecyl Sulfonate

Shampoo Additive Ingredients To Avoid:

Avocado
Balm Mint
Balsam
Essential Oils
Eucalyptus
Grapefruit
Horseradish
Lavender Oil
Lemon
Lime
Menthol
Orange
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Rose
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Not only do you have to watch the ingredients in shampoos you must also look out for propelene glycol and pvps or anything that will coat the hair will also coat the scalp and irritate it.
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Holy Cow! More than half the stuff I have has propylene glycol or PVP in it including the BRHG, the CHS Slip and others that I have been using almost everyday!

So what detangler and gel does not have these evil irritants in it?
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These evil things don't bother a lot of people but I would get itchy peely patches when I used CK with propelene glycol. Sometimes if you rotate products it will help but it is best to eliminate them for awhile at first to see what happens. All of the products in my signature are "clean" or cleaner than most. Some people have problems with build-up from polyquats in the Komaza aloe and JC C&S but I do not.
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Old 10-02-2009, 02:58 PM   #18
 
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Wink Some more suggestions

I have terrible problems with both eczema and psoriasis on my body and scalp. I have tried just about everything, and still haven't found a solution, so keep us posted on your journey!

The one thing I will recommend is Home Health psoriasis medicated scalp and body wash. Although it does have 2 sulfates (sodium myreth sulfate and TEA- lauryl sulfate), they are the last things on the ingredient list. The numerous herbal extracts soothe my poor scalp (temporarily, at least) and my hair responds very well. I buy it at my local whole foods.

Here is a link with a picture:
http://www.iherb.com/Home-Health-Pso...6-ml/6489?at=0

I also enjoy conditioners and no-poos that contain peppermint oil, tea tree oil, ACV rinses, olive oil applied with a dropper to my scalp before bed, AND the topical steroids prescribed by my doc.

And yet I'm scratching as I type this...
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So, I went to the local herb shop. I picked up loose nettles to make a rinse, calendula oil since the herbalist said that it is the key calming ingredient in a lot of natural itch remedies, neem oil since it is in so many itch relief products, rosemary oil, coconut oil, and Nature's Gate itch relief conditioner. When I got home, the steriod prescription had finally azrrived in the mail. So I'm going to experiment.

I did a deep treatment of coconut oil/rosemary oil for a few hours. I then washed it out using the Naked Naturals avocado shampoo since I have't found an itch relief one with appropriate ingredients yet. Then I let my hair soak with the Nature's Gate conditioner for abut 10 min. It was very tingly. I did the nettle tea rinse, then I used AO White Camellia as a leave in. Used FSG. I did not apply any gel as I don't have one without the evil ingredients mentioned in the other posts. My hair will just have to be crummier than usual. Then applied the steriod to half of my head. I want to see if the natural stuff will be enough to calm the itch and rid me of the flakes.

As of this morning, the non-steriod side is a little less itchy and the steriod side is even less itchy. I'm going to continue this experiment for a while to see if the non-steriod side can catch up.

Oh, I never did use the neem oil. I opened it up and thought I might vomit--literally my stomach turned. Think rancid garlic and rotten eggs. I'm having a hard time believing people put this in their hair.
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Sorry for such long wait to your reply.
I will re-start again with Generic Value Product - Paul Mitchel Tea Tree - Shampoo. I have been using for 2 months now. I have seen a different with less itching. I mostly noticed itching a lot after the application with hair dye.

So the way, I how I use my shampoo is. I just take shower. Squit a little shampoo and apply to the scalp. You let you let on your scalp for about 5 minutes. If you watch the The DOCTORS (Fox 11) Southern California which we have very humity wheather in summer.

Regarless if contains one sincone. Will, I will try to some post a video of how explain better on how might help

I don't really like the straight look all that much but, I do find it help with my itch probably. Normally, I am not type to brag about something in less. I have tried and it work. If does not work go back to for refund or I give it someone

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Moving forward how to flat iron helps

Some flat irons are made with feature called

Nano silver - Its add with most update flat irons being made not saying like you need name brand flat iron but this article talks about how http://www.physorg.com/news5536.html ray light helps to break down batercia. So another words. You can try combing out your hair and it will not remove the flakes it will just keep re-appearings. So if you go over it. You would be breaking down that stiffs ( which looks similar to gray hair) I noticed my hair would get softer with heat application. So worth try.






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[ Now the hair straighten have germ free feature that helps lifts out dandruff. ]

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Also, I've never really been able to straighten my hair. It's always got some wave in it even when I blow dry it out with a brush. Actually, I don't think I even own a brush any more, just a pic. I got a flat iron two years ago, but have only used it once. I had a lot of little hairs sticking up on my canopy and it was still wavy. I think it also breaking off hairs. I guess I would need a hair straightening tutorial before I tried it again.

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