curl cream and or leave ins- what do you use?

i've been pretty much cg/ mod cg for several months now, and i still have q's!

curl creams and leave ins. do you need to use both? leave ins are supposed to be for moisture, but i use mostly curl creams and no leave ins because i think the curl creams i use are pretty moisterizing. if there is going to be anything under my curl cream, it will most likely be FOTE AVG (like the clumping).

so what's the deal with leave ins and curl creams?! which ones do you use? why?
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i has no hair type? (medium, f-iii), normal porosity, LOW elasticity.
CG journey began 2/8/09 - 4-08-09.. and then mod cg 4/14/09 -... 03/02/10- Barely CG but I like CG products
wash with Low Poo or Poo
condition with GVP Conditioning Balm or CJ BC Daily, Loreal Color Vive for Color Treated Hair Thats Normal
Leave ins- Garnier S&S; Marrakesh oil
style with - Ohm SHP; KCCC- BRHG or Boots- KCCC- BRHG; CIAB; CCCC
Protein- GVP Joico K-Pak
Play with ACV
During the summer, I used one or the other with a gel--as per Marsha's blog: http://curljunkie.blogspot.com/2009/...ofrizzies.html I use both in normal and low dewpoints. Just think it tightens my curl and the frizz isn't as much of an issue.
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maybe i should get myself in the habit of using both. i have tons of leave in samples (thanks again ) and i really haven't rotated them in.

i actually just started a spreadsheet so i can figure out how to use what and when. LOL.
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i has no hair type? (medium, f-iii), normal porosity, LOW elasticity.
CG journey began 2/8/09 - 4-08-09.. and then mod cg 4/14/09 -... 03/02/10- Barely CG but I like CG products
wash with Low Poo or Poo
condition with GVP Conditioning Balm or CJ BC Daily, Loreal Color Vive for Color Treated Hair Thats Normal
Leave ins- Garnier S&S; Marrakesh oil
style with - Ohm SHP; KCCC- BRHG or Boots- KCCC- BRHG; CIAB; CCCC
Protein- GVP Joico K-Pak
Play with ACV
I use heavier leave-in's in the winter too. I used a leave-in/detangler (spray) during the summer and that worked great. Now that it's cooler I've been using a creamy leave in and my hair thanks me. I use a leave in for detangling and moisture. I am currently using Elucence MBC and love it! It's not too heavy/light, it's just right!! I use a leave in along with a curl cream, usually DM CCB or L&T. I use a curl cream because it seems to enhance the curl.

I tried Giovanni Direct Leave in but I didn't always get good results. It seemed easy to over do it and my hair would feel "producty". When I looked at the ingredients, it has a lot of oils. It's kind of odd because my hair likes oils. When I use a spray leave in I usually put either some Camellia oil or Jojoba oil in my hair and my hair loves it, soaks it right up.

I think that leave in's and curl creams are a matter of preference and not a necessity. I have also tried not using a curl cream and it works too but I think that also depends on products. This worked with KCCC, without the curl cream. I say just experiment. I wished I would've kept a hair journal myself but I didn't, so I recommend it. HTH.
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I'm still experimenting with this myself. I always thought using the 2 would be over kill but it's worked well for me when I use LOOC/BOOTS. I still need CK though, if I leave out CK it gets too producty. Don't even ask why this is, it makes no sense at all. It's as if CK creates a barrier to keep me from getting too producty and gives me some add'l hold.

I think the temps would have to be ZERO for me to use a LI under CCCC because it's so nice and rich on it's own. I may just try it though because LOOC does seem to be curl enhancing for me and I know that combo does work well on others. I was using LOOC with MOP C at one point to in the Winter and that also worked well. I still have more experimenting to do, but lately I haven't really felt like it, I want the comfort of my proven combos right now
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I have a few steadys depending on weather/season/gel.

I like the DM Mira detangler
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See Del, i thought it would be overkill too! i would probably use a LI under re:coil, since it's a curl enhancer/ styler. but i can't see myself using, lets say, KBB, then pink boots, then KCCC, then a harder gel on top. i would just skip the KBB. but i have tried th LOOC under KCCC... i dunno! im confusing myself.

i guess i could use my LIs as rinse outs. i really have SOO MANNYY. dont know why i keep buying them! LOL.
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i has no hair type? (medium, f-iii), normal porosity, LOW elasticity.
CG journey began 2/8/09 - 4-08-09.. and then mod cg 4/14/09 -... 03/02/10- Barely CG but I like CG products
wash with Low Poo or Poo
condition with GVP Conditioning Balm or CJ BC Daily, Loreal Color Vive for Color Treated Hair Thats Normal
Leave ins- Garnier S&S; Marrakesh oil
style with - Ohm SHP; KCCC- BRHG or Boots- KCCC- BRHG; CIAB; CCCC
Protein- GVP Joico K-Pak
Play with ACV
I don't know burgundy I tried KBB SS under a home made pudding (shawnette's recipe for Wet Set Pudding) Web Sites with Lots of Hair Recipes! put BRHG on top and it did work well. If you get enough hold from KCCC you may not need anything add'l. The key is not using too much and over do it. I use a dime size of LI and dime of BOOTS. I wouldn't use much more of CCCC either if I was going to layer it. I've found that layering is more effective then using more of ONE product. It just has to be right the balance so now I am writing this stuff down!!
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
I always use a leave in. To me, a leave in is like foundation in make up, or like a primer in painting. It's just what my hair needs in order to be ready to style. Then, I add a curl creme, and then gel. Right now, the hands down most consistently successful combination for the last several weeks has been curl junkie leave in, boots (pink), and la looks sport gel (blue)
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I just use a curl cream. I've never found a leave-in that I like and the curl cream I use moisturizes my hair enough.
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I use both a curl cream and a leave-in at the same time I always use a leave-in under all my other products, which usually includes a curl cream; Re:coil or Jessicurl CC (a thinner curl cream but a curl cream nevertheless ). Then again, my hair loves moisture and never gets over-conditioned. It may be different for you.
Curl Type: 2c-3a, Medium thickness, Normal Porosity
Weekly Low-poo: TJ Pure Castile Soap
Co-wash: V05 Strawberries and Cream
Conditioner: GVP Conditioning Balm (Possibly HG!), GF Triple Nutrition
Styling Products: CK, Re:coil, JCRR, JCCC, LALMHG, EcoStyler, SMU Spray Gel, Boots

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I always use a LI.
Lately either KBB nectar milk or my new CJ butta.(since some curlies say prolonged use of CK has been drying their curls out)
Then I always use CK.
Curl cream of some sort most times.
Then I always use BRHG.(need that hold)
Results aren't half bad.
Always frizz free mod volume.
Some days curlier than others.
3a Long (waist) thick med course dry thirsty
Poo: Eulence moisture
Co-wash: GVP CB
Condish: GVP CB
LI: KBB nectar
Styler: CK CIAB
Gel: BRHG
DT: Curl Junkie
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