Seborrheic dermatitis. Anyone else deal with this?

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Can you inherit SD? My Mum and her Mum have it.
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Probably so. We have a lot of allergies in my family, Sd, and eczema as well as asthma.
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Probably so. We have a lot of allergies in my family, Sd, and eczema as well as asthma.
Originally Posted by curl goddess
I think we're related....

I've had allergies since very little. (While most babies cry when they're born, I believe I just sneezed in the doctor's face.) I've had seborrheic dermatitis on my face and scalp for about 20 years now.

I HAVE to low-poo at least every 2-3 days. After 3 days I'll itch again. I find that Max Green Alchemy Scalp Rescue Shampoo works best for me. However, if I get a really bad flare-up, I use Nizoral. It has a sulfate, but it's low on the list.

I was using Giovanni TTTT shampoo for a while, but they changed the ingredients, so it went from being just OK to not working at all.

As much as my hair loves oils, my scalp can't tolerate them, so I don't use them directly on my scalp.

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where do you get Max Green Alchemy Scalp Rescue Shampoo? I like to variate what i use.....ive never seen or heard of it....
3a long thick -botticelli hair when there is humidity
2c wavy w/curls if there isnt.
currently using Bioterra & KMF in winter
Jessicurl styling in summer
Natures Gate poo & condish
Thank you NC for bringing me back to curly!
just found their site online - now i remember someone here recommending this to me a couple years ago, and i didnt try it bc it was kind of spendy. But think I will get some - I think my hair gets used to something, then it starts to not work any longer. A health food market near me carries it, so does amazon.com

thanks for the reminder!
3a long thick -botticelli hair when there is humidity
2c wavy w/curls if there isnt.
currently using Bioterra & KMF in winter
Jessicurl styling in summer
Natures Gate poo & condish
Thank you NC for bringing me back to curly!
I just searched for this because I'm 99.999% sure I have it, and yay I'm not the only one!

I've had it ever since I can remember, but my parents just blew it off as "oh, she just has cradle cap." So as you can imagine...it was never treated very well. They would scrub my hair with Selsun Blue sometimes, but that kind of scared me. And I would have to wash my hair extra-well and really dig my nails into my scalp, or it wasn't "good enough."

Only when I got my hair cut recently and the stylist suggested dandruff shampoo, did I think I could really do anything about it. I didn't know what it was at all. One shampoo with T/Sal and it was AMAZING the difference. It still bothers me with itching and flakes and build-up, but not like it did before. I'm actually starting to wonder if that's why my face gets so dry and flaky sometimes, too.

Still haven't figured out an ideal number of times to shampoo. When I was visiting my SO, it worked to shower every 2 days and shampoo every other shower with T/Sal, using regular Suave shampoo the other shower. But at my home here with my parents, I'm not even supposed to be taking showers--I'm taking them with stealth, as it's nearly impossible to take a bath and shampoo my hair properly with T/Sal! It should work out in a few weeks when school starts, though, as I'll be living in a dorm. Just not sure what else I can do with my hair...I do know the worse the episode, the limper my poor hair gets...
Cradle Cap is Seborrheic dermatitis.......

yep - just have to experiment with different things. Since this thread started, i had an awful bout of it! had to wash my hair twice with the Tsal.....I think its the Tgel that works better for me, its brown....

anyway, dont forget to give your scalp a good scrub with the brush right before you wash it. It loosens all the scales and distributes the oil - makes the special shampoo work a little better.

The teatree shampoos work well for me too. try those.

and yes, the peeling facial skin is also part of it.....
3a long thick -botticelli hair when there is humidity
2c wavy w/curls if there isnt.
currently using Bioterra & KMF in winter
Jessicurl styling in summer
Natures Gate poo & condish
Thank you NC for bringing me back to curly!
Yeah, now I know that...apparently, my parents took me to a doctor when I was a kid about it and the doctor said it wasn't anything to worry about. Thanks, Doc. xP

I might have to try to find Tgel stuff, too...The T/Sal worked great when I was with my SO, but here it's not working as well...I don't know if it's because I'm not loosening it up enough first or the water's too different or what. But it's not fun.

Tea Tree shampoos? What are those, exactly?

Heh, now I want to tell my dad that and that "just applying lotion" really doesn't make it all better...

Last edited by Lillielle; 08-11-2010 at 07:56 PM. Reason: added something
I get dry, itchy flakey patches on my face as well. My dermatologist gave me some cream for that, but she also told me you can take the medicated shampoos like Head and Shoulders...dab a bit on the skin about an hour before you shower. Then, shower it off. If it's around your eye, just be careful. I have a bad patch around my left eye right now.
So far just experimenting with anything and everything!!!!
yah no fun at all. I suffered this after having my first child...have no idea why. It was only around the border of my hairline tho, not in the middle at all. so, forehead and hairline sides where the hair is near your ears and underneath and a bit on the back of my neck.

I found that putting my hair up as high as possible and being out in the sun for an hour every day relieved it naturally a bit, suggested by a dermatologist and it helped. also, i was given something called Elocon. It stung when I put it on but i think thats coz it itched so much prior. Helped a bit after 3 days use.

It still flares up every time I colour my hair...naughty me... but I just put up with it for the week till it calms down. Mine is weird because it really comes and goes at its own will...sigh.

but seriously, try out the sunshine thing!

also, Baking Soda treatment followed by Apple Cider Vinager rinse helps. The cider might make u feel itchy but once its out your whole scalp feels fresher and less sore.
With a SD flare up for yall.... is it like someone poured a bottle of baby oil on your head??? For me, that is usually what a flareup is.... EXCESSIVE oil at the crown of my head and it can't be 'shampooed out'. HORRID. I too felt so alone. I rotate shampoos during a flare up from Walgreens got them on sale 2 for $10 one is tar shampoo one is sulfate shampoo and they REALLY help during a flare. It says to put on and leave on for 5 minutes. I wet my hair, pour the shampoo on and then go clean or do dishes or something for 30 minutes, then continue with my shower routine and it is wonderfully helpful.
head and shoulders worked for a while. then selseum blu, but then it stopped. so i had to use the really smelly stuff, but after a while that stopped working. then i used baking soda and acv. but the that stopped. i discovered aubrey's organics and they had a shampoo that really worked great. the best out of everything i ever tried. but alas, that stopped working. i then turned to henna, it so far so good. no issues with gross scalp issues. crossing my fingers and hope it don't fall into the same pattern.
Acidophilus supplements can help too for preventing an overgrowth of yeast. I have learned the hard way (lots of antibiotics) that yeast is more than just a below the belt problem. Right now my scalp is calming down somewhat but I may need to get some oral Diflucan from the doc.

I've never been diagnosed with sebborheic dermatitis, mainly because I've never went to the doc for my scalp. I do think there's a yeast connection with the itching though, just due to the timing of sinus infection, then antibiotic, then crazy itching, burning, painful scalp. Not to mention other, um, obvious yeast issues after treatment with antibiotics. LOL

I've used the JASON Tea Tree Oil shampoo when I'm desparate and it helps a little, but it is SO drying. I can't even separate my hair at the scalp to rinse it out cause it gets so tangled and hard. I have to use conditioner to detangle my hair to rinse it out. Uggghhh.
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Last edited by liongirl29; 04-25-2011 at 02:10 PM. Reason: Forgot something
or, that their dad said to put lotion on it. My five year old has had a problem with skin yeast infections before and her pediatrician said lotions and ointments can make yeast actually flourish. Yikes! So I imagine that lotion on the scalp or even a buildup of conditioner or products could make yeast worse. Not good.
Curltype:Fine, 2C underneath, Mostly 3A, with some 3B thrown in there. Normal porosity.
Shampoo: Elucence, clarify with sulfates 1x per month
Conditioner: Elucence MBC,
Products: Devacurl Angel, LALSG
I can't go totally CG as it weighs my hair down FAST. Hard water.
Bad haircut finally starting to grow out and look normal again!
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Seborrheic dermatitis definitely has a fungal component---Malassezia (formerly called Pityrosporum) yeasts are the ones they DO know are involved, though there is no cure and they're still not 100% sure of the true causes. It's not "just dry scalp/skin"--although dry skin is part of the disease.

I've suffered from it since age 12 (I'm 40 now) and I rotate between T-Sal and T-Gel as far as shampooing. The T-Sal, for me, seems to be the gentler of the two. Nowadays I only use the T-Gel if the inflammation is really bad.

I'm still trying to find a product to use when I have itching/oozing but can't wash my hair--or when I have a flareup *right* where my hairline and scalp meet. The dermatologist prescribed Clobex lotion but that stuff is TOO expensive. Scalpicin works but only sometimes.

Also, my skin tends to discolor when a flare-up goes into remission (I'm not Caucasian). I have to use 10% glycolic acid cream for that. I have to take great care that the skin is 100% fully healed before I can use it though, but it works very well.

The thing I HATE is how the medicated shampoos dry my hair out SO bad. But as someone else said, my scalp has to come first. Speaking from hard experience---if I don't correct a flareup immediately.....it spreads all over. It will just itch and itch and itch and ooze until my entire skin is a total wreck. Just raw, red, oozing, inflamed, flaky crusty areas around my hairline, neck, center of my chest, forehead, chin and sides of my nose (BTW all of these areas are sebum-rich)

I have tried co-washing/rinsing BEFORE using the medicated shampoo, which does help. I condition before and after using the medicated shampoo. I also put coconut oil (or olive oil or other oil) on my hair--trying to stay away from the scalp/roots--and sit under a plastic cap for a while, then rinse the oil out.

Protopic and Elidel help keep it away on my face/body but again they are SO expensive--I've used up all my samples, trying to stretch them out. My insurance flat-out refused to continue paying for Protopic after a couple of times.

I don't know if my SD is particularly aggressive or what, but I have to take special care and immediately treat ANY flare-up no matter how small.....I've actually experienced hair loss and the disease just becomes downright PAINFUL if I don't do anything. I have woken up with blood and flesh caked under all my fingernails from scratching my scalp in my sleep. It hasn't gotten that severe in over 20 years now, and I try to keep it that way.

Last edited by sinistral55; 04-27-2011 at 09:25 AM.
I'm not sure if anyone has heard of a shampoo called Nizoral, but I have used it for about 4 years now and it has worked wondered on my scalp issues. It is a medicated shampoo that has worked for me. The good thing about it is you really only have to use it every three day. You can get it a any local walgreens or walmart. It isn't too terribly expensive, and is worth every dime.

I have used most of the over-the-counter brands mentioned and they stopped working on my scalp. But the Nizoral has been wonderful. And I can still do my normal hair routine also.
Also, as with most skin problems - having oils in the diet will help. Vit E, Evening primrose oil, Omega 3s, etc are all helpful. EPO is amazing for skin issues. In my 20s i had roseacia and nothing helped. Then I started using EPO and it cleared up and i never had it again. Its a life saver now for moods during my menopausal transition. Cant say enough great things about it!
Originally Posted by curl goddess
Don't know if you're still tracking this thread, Curl Goddess, but I was curious as to whether you used the EPO topically or internally to treat your rosacea.
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Internally. I still take it as it helps my skin and is great for mood swings.
3a long thick -botticelli hair when there is humidity
2c wavy w/curls if there isnt.
currently using Bioterra & KMF in winter
Jessicurl styling in summer
Natures Gate poo & condish
Thank you NC for bringing me back to curly!
can this cause excessive shedding as well? I was diagnosed with this two years ago and no doc told me until just now. They say some of my hair loss can be from this. But they told me medicated shampoo daily. I dno't know how you all have found you can control it otherwise. Also, they gave me only one kind of conditioner I can use and it has dimethicone. Go figure. So frustrating. Now I don't know what to do.
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When I had it I would shampoo alternate days with Polytar and use The Body Shop's banana conditioner (this was years ago). My hair was never in better condition! I don't know why you would only be allowed a particular conditioner.
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