Spritz and Condish Washing for Porous Types+Thirsty Curls Everywhere!

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Wanted to update that this is still working very well for Tahia. We have definitely seen her hair is better conditioned overall and it takes less conditioner on her hair the more we use this.

Also we are using a bit less leave in which is good. Still more than what many use but less for her.

We switched it up to the CJ products and they worked very well too. It also seems like her hair is easier to poo---because it's a bit more slippery.

Still loving it!
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My update: This is still working for me and my hair's health is improving!
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I've read this thread twice now and I don't think this question has been asked. Del what do you think if I did the spritz part before bed and covered with a plastic cap overnight? I have two under two and the only time I have to get showered and ready for work is at 5am. My son(2 yr old) is a morning person and is up and running anywhere between 5:45 and 6.

Thanks!!

D
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CG since May 5, 2009
Hair Type: 3cCiii coarse\porous
Conditioners: Bioinfusion HCB, CJCR, SpiralSolutions DDMT, BellaCurl MC, BellaCurl LE, KCKT, YesToCucumbers
Stylers: CJ CCCC, FSG, KCCC, SpiralSolutions CEJ
I've read this thread twice now and I don't think this question has been asked. Del what do you think if I did the spritz part before bed and covered with a plastic cap overnight? I have two under two and the only time I have to get showered and ready for work is at 5am. My son(2 yr old) is a morning person and is up and running anywhere between 5:45 and 6.

Thanks!!

D
Originally Posted by dominicana
I think if you can stand the feel of damp hair on your head all night GO for it! I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. Good Luck!
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OTC - I LOVE the Shea Mango, but I have to use heat with it. Even as a pre-poo. Maybe try it like that? Sometimes my GVP CB works better with heat too.

jpinilla - I think I understand what you're asking, so I'll answer about my own flat-top syndrome and what I do for it. I do everything upright as far as S&C and in the shower, and only once I start adding my LIs/stylers do I pick/comb out my hair upside down. My hair doesn't have any memory as far how it was rinsed (upside down or right side up). Also, the pre-poo conditioning is only done on the oldest parts of my hair (not the roots!) since I can get greasy roots otherwise. Does that help at all?
Originally Posted by peaches1975
Yes, that's very helpful! I tried the S&C again before reading your post, and I did it upright, but I didn't think to comb my hair upside down before styling. I combed upright in the shower before rinsing out the first application of conditioner. Of course, doing it upright in the shower, I didn't have the awesome body I did as when I did everything upside down. I'll have to give that a try tomorrow when I wash my hair again! Thanks!
Well, I've been doing Del's Spritz & Condish for a week and I have to say I'm a convert!

I'm a dew point watcher thanks to Struttswife's e-book. The dew points have been all over the place. Yesterday the dew point was 19 here. But my hair was moisturized & touchable with well-defined loose curls and I'm pretty sure it's because of S & C. My hair has also been taking less time to dry - I think the theory that S & C prevents the hair from getting sort of bloated with water makes sense.

Del, what I want to know is, how did you get so smart?!

Anyway, thanks for sharing this great technique!!
Medium Texture/Normal Porosity
Conditioners: Curl Junkie conditioners, Elucence moisture balancing, Darcy's pumpkin seed, Mop Top Daily
Gels: CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ Curl Queen, UFDCM, Mop Top Curly Custard, KCCC (wish it didn't take so long to dry!), CJ Aloe Fix Lite
Weekly PT (CJ Repair Me) & DT
Icequeen method
CG since Aug. 08, still a lot to learn

I've tried this method a couple of times and it works really well. My hair always ends up really soft without feeling gunky and producty, and it dries much faster.

I had to make one modification, though; I don't own a spray bottle, and I keep forgetting to pick one up. So I've been getting my hands wet and distributing it throughout my hair to get it damp, which is a rather awkward and messy way, but so far it works. But, it got me thinking, is it necessary to get your hair wet before applying conditioner at all? If so, why? I'm just curious. I apologize if this was asked somewhere else in the thread; I just don't have time right now to read through it, and I wanted to be sure I asked before I forgot .
I have fine, 2c hair with normal porosity (I think.... ).

Currently, I'm using Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut (co-wash), LVPNG (regular conditioner), Giovanni Direct Leave-In, and HETT (gel). Every now and then (once a week or so, whenever my hair needs it) I use GTTT shampoo. I've had good success with plopping and pixie curling, but my hair dries best if I shower and then sleep on it. My hair does NOT like honey.

I've been CG since June 29th, 2009.
I think the theory that S & C prevents the hair from getting sort of bloated with water makes sense.
yeppers

Del, what I want to know is, how did you get so smart?!
Comes with AGE

WavyAngie post#79 answers your question basically moisture attracts moisture which is why on Dry hair it wouldn't be as effective.
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.

I think if you can stand the feel of damp hair on your head all night GO for it! I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. Good Luck!
Originally Posted by DEL2C
Del,

I wanted to give you a little update! I've done the S&C 4 nights in a row. I didn't think I would see a result so soon, but I am! I decided to try this because the bottom thirds of my hair just isn't behaving like the rest of my hair. Its frizzy and hs no definiton. I had been treating my hair like it was all low-med porosity and I think my misbehaving nape hair is actually high porosity! I have not seen a difference anywhere but in my nape hair, it is softer and actually starting to clump and get more defined. I'm definately going to continue, but maybe focus more on the bottom half of my hair if the rest starts to rebel.

I have been spritzing overnight, but a warning to anyone who wants to try that. Be careful what condish you choose. My first 2 nights I used KC Califia and although that stuff is so moisturizing and absolutely fabulous, I'm allergic to the fragrance! I woke up stuffy and sneezed all night. The third night I decided to use up the last of my AOWC and woke up with an awful headache. Last night I used my BioInfusion conditioning balm and had no problems!!

I haven't seen a difference in drying times because I use Rudee's SSM. I love SSM and the definition and clumps I get. I'm one of the lucky few who can use both methods !!

Sorry for the long post!! I will update in a few more days!

D
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Hair Type: 3cCiii coarse\porous
Conditioners: Bioinfusion HCB, CJCR, SpiralSolutions DDMT, BellaCurl MC, BellaCurl LE, KCKT, YesToCucumbers
Stylers: CJ CCCC, FSG, KCCC, SpiralSolutions CEJ
Dominicana - Glad to see the overnight spritz is working for you! I also have 2 little ones so as I was reading this whole thread I was trying to figure out how I could make this work with my early rising 2 year old and lack of sleep with a 5 month old.

Will report back shortly!
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I did the overnight version of this last night.

Dew points are finally down into the single digits, so it was a s good a time as any to do an overnight.

I spritzed and totally coated my hair with AOHR. I mean, my hair looked like a tree with fake snow sprayed on it.

I let it sit for a bit and then I plopped in my CurlEase and went to bed.

It does feel a lot better today. My ends had been getting straight, so I knew I needed a big moisture hit. Most of them are back to curly now. I'll probably do some overnight of my ends a couple of times a week as long as the dewpoints are like this.

Whether my hair or the towel sucked up the conditioner is hard to say, but I didn't even rinse my hair when I got up. I just unplopped. There is some frizz and some off curl patterns from sleeping plopped. But, overall, I like the look and am just going to wear my hair like this, lol. It looks OK and it is dry and more mositurized, so why re-wet, lol.

I did order a couple of tubs of Curl Rehab and my winter oil from Curl Mart, so I'll use those for my overnights once they come in.

After last years cold winter, I'm prepared for very low dew points this time around, lol.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

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Whether my hair or the towel sucked up the conditioner is hard to say,
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
I use a plastic conditioning cap, then put my satin bonnet over that. When I wake up it's still damp.

D
Lady Valeria of the Isle of Neraida in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

Central Florida Curly
CG since May 5, 2009
Hair Type: 3cCiii coarse\porous
Conditioners: Bioinfusion HCB, CJCR, SpiralSolutions DDMT, BellaCurl MC, BellaCurl LE, KCKT, YesToCucumbers
Stylers: CJ CCCC, FSG, KCCC, SpiralSolutions CEJ
Whether my hair or the towel sucked up the conditioner is hard to say,
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
I use a plastic conditioning cap, then put my satin bonnet over that. When I wake up it's still damp.

D
Originally Posted by dominicana
I destroyed my old shower cap. It seems as if I need a new one!

I can still feel the conditioner on my hair, but I know the towel had to take up some of it.

But, shoot, I didn't have to re-wet, so I'm happy overall.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
This made a difference to my damaged, uberdry hair. I didn't do it yesterday--as I did a deep treatment--but I'm gonna make sure to do it again next time I wash (usually wash 2x a week), and see if I can keep the moisturized look from the DT longer.

I have such dry hair that I can feel a difference from hour to hour. It's like the dry air in my house (I have mold/mildew allergies and live in FLA, so I keep the indoors humidity low) sucks the moisture out of my hair (and the hypothyroidism does make my hair very strawlike in patches).

So, thanks, Del, for this suggestion. I think for high-porosity gals, this is gonna make a difference.

Not to mention it's showing me I need much more conditioner than i ever realized. In fact, when I think I have enough, I grit and bear it and add more leave in, and it helps. I always was the "rinse it all out" type, then add a bit. Now, I try not to rinse it all out, and i leave in A LOT. I just have to learn the difference between enough to make it soft and not so much to make it greasy.

But this method helps cause I do believe I benefit from not having the water saturation first. Definitely.

THANKS.
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This made a difference to my damaged, uberdry hair. I didn't do it yesterday--as I did a deep treatment--but I'm gonna make sure to do it again next time I wash (usually wash 2x a week), and see if I can keep the moisturized look from the DT longer.

I have such dry hair that I can feel a difference from hour to hour. It's like the dry air in my house (I have mold/mildew allergies and live in FLA, so I keep the indoors humidity low) sucks the moisture out of my hair (and the hypothyroidism does make my hair very strawlike in patches).

So, thanks, Del, for this suggestion. I think for high-porosity gals, this is gonna make a difference.

Not to mention it's showing me I need much more conditioner than i ever realized. In fact, when I think I have enough, I grit and bear it and add more leave in, and it helps. I always was the "rinse it all out" type, then add a bit. Now, I try not to rinse it all out, and i leave in A LOT. I just have to learn the difference between enough to make it soft and not so much to make it greasy.

But this method helps cause I do believe I benefit from not having the water saturation first. Definitely.

THANKS.
Originally Posted by MirCurls

FWIW, the S&C method is how I apply my DTs. I seem to get more benefit from them this way. I also don't need to do them quite as often.

I'm in SE coastal GA , in the country and on propane for heat, and have mold/mildew allergies as well! So I feel your pain about the dry air in the house sucking the moisture out. The longer I go without COwashing my hair and such, the harder and drier my hair will get. The S&C method has made a BIG diff in my hair, as well as the ton of LI like you mentioned.

It's amazing how much silicone disguised the actual condition of my hair.
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Color treated (blonde, but darned grays!)
COwash: Suave, V05, Salon Care Honey Almond
CO: GVPCB, LVNPG, GFTN, HSH Pumpkin, Aura Cherry Almond Bark
DTs: Lustrasilk SM, GVPCB
PTs: Aphogee 2-step, ION Effective Care inbetween
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Last edited by peaches1975; 12-12-2009 at 11:12 AM.
I think I'll give this a try. My hair has been feeling really dry of late. Even though I don't think I'm at all porous (I've never colored/dyed my hair, and when I slide my fingers up one strand backwards it glides smoothly with no resistance), maybe this will help me get some more moisture in my hair somehow. It'll be a fun experiment. I'll try tomorrow
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I went with the overnight version last night (very similar to how I DT) and got wonderful results - substantially less LI needed (thank goodnes - KCKT comes in too small a bottle).

Thanks DEL!
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Reporting back!

I went with the overnight version last night (very similar to how I DT) and got wonderful results - substantially less LI needed (thank goodnes - KCKT comes in too small a bottle).

Thanks DEL!
Originally Posted by CurlyQMom
Now that it's winter, I buy the big jug, lol.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
I tried this yesterday. I think I either didn't use enough conditioner, or I rinsed too long, because my hair didn't seem to get any less wet and didn't seem to dry faster.

Interestingly, though, it did come out looking different -- and kind of cool! I seemed to have a little more curl and shrinkage, plus good volume (good for me at this time of year).

I'm not porous (well, actually, I have no clue if I'm porous or not). But I wanted to try this for the faster drying (I was styling very late in the day), and because I thought it might get more moisture into my hair. Maybe it did! I'm intrigued.....

It's hard to tell for sure because at first I didn't seem to be clumping well, so I did a second upside-down gel application. I suppose that could be why it came out looking different, as well.....

More experimentation needed..... Usually I'm one of those folks who needs very wet hair for good styling. But I'm starting to wonder if this might be less true in the winter.

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Question about rinsing. Do you just barely rinse (leaving some condish in) or are you rinsing it clean?
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