I'm new here with a big problem (please help)

By no means an expert on this but I'd be inclined to clip a bit from somewhere it won't be noticed and experiment on it, rather than your whole head. Have you tried vinegar? On the basis that that will clean lime scale off. Still, I'd try a dilute version on your sample first.
I'm not sure about suave deep cleaning for men, but the Vo5 isn't all that good. The regular suave clarifying is clarifying, but not chelating. You need a shampoo that also chelates. Which means, removes the build up. Sally's sells a treatment that comes in a small packet. You mix it with water and it turns into a gel. You put that gel on your head and let it sit for 2-3 mins. My guess is that sounds like more what you need.

I know it sounds like I'm being weird, but really, what I've learned from this board is that you can try 80 different things, but if they aren't the exact thing, it won't work. You think you have a product that is supposed to do what you want it to, but then you do some more research and find out that your brand of "clarifying shampoo" only removes product build up and not hard-water/product build up. And once you have that kind of hard-water build up, only very specific things get it off.

But then again, I could not have a CLUE what is going on with your hair so, I could be completely leading you astray heh. The 2.99 packet at Sally's couldn't hurt though.
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I'm not sure about suave deep cleaning for men, but the Vo5 isn't all that good. The regular suave clarifying is clarifying, but not chelating. You need a shampoo that also chelates. Which means, removes the build up. Sally's sells a treatment that comes in a small packet. You mix it with water and it turns into a gel. You put that gel on your head and let it sit for 2-3 mins. My guess is that sounds like more what you need.

I know it sounds like I'm being weird, but really, what I've learned from this board is that you can try 80 different things, but if they aren't the exact thing, it won't work. You think you have a product that is supposed to do what you want it to, but then you do some more research and find out that your brand of "clarifying shampoo" only removes product build up and not hard-water/product build up. And once you have that kind of hard-water build up, only very specific things get it off.

But then again, I could not have a CLUE what is going on with your hair so, I could be completely leading you astray heh. The 2.99 packet at Sally's couldn't hurt though.
Originally Posted by goobernut

Hell yeah. sounds good to me, I was planning on getting the packet from Sally's anyway. Which one should I get, I've had a few suggestions for Malibu 2000?
Get the Malibu original gel. I am the one that mentioned it to you over at the other site..lol. It does come in a little packet but I really recommend that you go to a salon and have the treatment done there. You have to have the heat from a hooded dryer. I had this same thing happen to me in the front of my hair around the temple area. I also was using the biolage but I don't know it that had anything to do with it or not. It may have been something in my face cream because it was at the hairline.


Have you tried baking soda?

Edited to add these links: http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Dermato...ly/show/738641

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Dermato...lp/show/739022

Check this out..lots of other people with the same problem..someone suggested that it might fungal in nature. You did say there was a slightly off odor, right?

Jennifer

Last edited by Willow; 11-23-2009 at 11:14 PM. Reason: link
Get the Malibu original gel. I am the one that mentioned it to you over at the other site..lol. It does come in a little packet but I really recommend that you go to a salon and have the treatment done there. You have to have the heat from a hooded dryer. I had this same thing happen to me in the front of my hair around the temple area. I also was using the biolage but I don't know it that had anything to do with it or not. It may have been something in my face cream because it was at the hairline.


Have you tried baking soda?

Edited to add these links: http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Dermato...ly/show/738641

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Dermato...lp/show/739022

Check this out..lots of other people with the same problem..someone suggested that it might fungal in nature. You did say there was a slightly off odor, right?

Jennifer
Originally Posted by Willow
Alright, does Sally's carry it? if so i'll buy two packets of that, as well as a tea tree oil shampoo

by the way , those links were great
thanks :]
I went to Sally's website and it doesn't appear as if they have it. They do have one in a purple package called "Ion clarifying treatment". I am pretty sure that it is Sally's version of the malibu. It's about $2.

Maybe you should try the antifungal cream too. Couldn't hurt anything.

Wishing you the best,
Jennifer
I don't remember where I read it but I did read something about people with stinky hair/scalp issues, and they washed with antibacterial soap which helped. I still think a dermatologist would be a good idea though, unless your insurance won't cover it or you don't have any insurance. In that case try WebMD, I'm not sure but you must be able to post a question somehow. Another thing you might not have thought of is to try calling your pharmacist. They are familiar with health problems and the drugs used to treat them, it's a bit of a long shot but certainly can't hurt.
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If there is nothing on your scalp, only on your hair, there is no point in seeing a dermathologist.

However, a hairdresser might be able to help!

Otherwise... shave it off? Cut it?
Originally Posted by loto
Not really true. Dermatologists do deal with hair-related issues as well as skin issues AND nail issues. If you can't help the issue with over the counter treatments, then it couldn't hurt to see a doctor.
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I remembered this old thread that might be worth a try if all else has failed. Read the thread starting with the last paragraph in post #20 (by JusLooking)....... Symptoms of over-conditioned, when you need protein and protein sensitivity

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I used the ion clarifying treatment from sallys and it didn't work... this sucks soo much guys. I really don't know what to do now. I really don't want to cut off my hair either
Did you use any kind of heat with it? If you didn't, it won't work very well at all.

The info in the links I posted says to use dawn dish soap and leave it sit for awhile before rinsing.

Another thing you can try is baking soda. Pour a bunch in your hand and then mix it with conditioner and put it on and leave it sit for about 5 minutes and rinse it out. Make sure you shampoo after rinsing it out to bring the ph level of your hair back to normal.
Did you use any kind of heat with it? If you didn't, it won't work very well at all.

The info in the links I posted says to use dawn dish soap and leave it sit for awhile before rinsing.

Another thing you can try is baking soda. Pour a bunch in your hand and then mix it with conditioner and put it on and leave it sit for about 5 minutes and rinse it out. Make sure you shampoo after rinsing it out to bring the ph level of your hair back to normal.
Originally Posted by Willow
I used a blow dryer for 20 minutes.

I've used dish soap- 3 times and it didn't work.

I tried baking soda
I figured out what a possible cause might have been.. using Dr. Bronner's all-once castile soap to wash my hair. I did this a few times and my hair now feels as it did after washing with the castile. I don't see how it is causing my hair to behave like this a month later ... but... anything's possible. Anyone pleeease help me. it looks worse every day that goes by.
I did a search for that Dr. Bronners stuff and found this page: http://community.livejournal.com/no_...g/castile+soap
And this 2nd link is for one specific post.
http://community.livejournal.com/no_poo/153584.html

Some other people said that their hair was waxy. after using it. I don't know about the product becasue I have never heard of it but people were saying that you have to follow the directions exactly and that it has to be followed with some type of acid rinse.
Good luck!
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