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It's just jaw dropping how good you all look! Nallia, Kaysara, Masa, Angel...WOW!!!!!

Major curl envy over here..you are all making we want to let my hair grow now!
Originally Posted by Alexjoujou
AJJ, your pics from today(and others) are gorgeous! I wish I had the nerve to go short and sassy. Like I said to Laura Lee in another thread, sometimes envy goes both ways.
3B, fine, low/normal porosity
CG - July 2009
CO/RO/Trt.-Suave, BCB, Tigi OH & MM, EO, CJRehab, SG, DF & CF, Jasmine's, Bellacurl, SS, Darcy's, K-Pak, Shescentit, DE Coconut, MD, Oyin, JCWDT, CurlQ
LI-GDLI, Abba PGC, CJRehab, CF,SG & BCLI, Jasmine's, Bellacurl, SS, Shescentit, DE Coconut, MD, Oyin
Styler-FSG, Re:coil, CJCCCC lite & CIAB, Komaza CCP & CS, DB, BRHG, Joiwhip/gel, Ecostyler, Boots, SS, Gel-les'c, DMMCG, KCSS
Too many others to list!

AJJ, your pics from today(and others) are gorgeous! I wish I had the nerve to go short and sassy. Like I said to Laura Lee in another thread, sometimes envy goes both ways.
Originally Posted by angel29ish
Envy definitely goes both ways! I wish I had some of the curls I see on here, and I'm trying to see when I have time to get my hair cut soon, too.
3a/2c, medium texture, thick and dense, normal porosity/elasticity. Cone free since 5/1/09.

Low Poo: JCHCC
Cowash: Giovanni or Suave
Condish: GFTN, SSCC
Stylers: HG is always SSCEJ + LALSG
I used the CEJ and FHG today, and WOW - soft hair and nice curls! no more curls than usual, but they seem a lot softer, and it was sooo easy to SOTC...I didn't use a LI under it, though, which I think I might try next time...I haven't tried the emollience on my hair, but I've used it on my hands and the dry patch on my one elbow...goes on sooo silky smooth! have to remember to bring it to work to see how it SOTC
on my CG journey since 10/31/09
**2-3ish mix/coarse/med-high porosity/v thick/graying, color treated
cleansers: CJ DF
co-wash: TJ TTT/Suave DC
rinse out/treatments: YTT/YTC/HSH Pumpkin/CJ CR/AO GPB
Stylers: homemade FSG/HETMS spray
pixiecurl diffusing in winter, air drying in summer, Icequeen method, combing right before plopping
glycerin, panthenol, heavy oils, diffusing in summer, Suave Cherry Blossom co, gel
I got my products yesterday and tried them all out last night - PT for 10-15 minutes without heat then DT'd for about 90 minutes (until Idol went off, LOL) with heat for the first 5-10, then CEJ topped with Giovanni Magnetic Attraction Gel since I wasn't able to get the FHG.

Partially diffused, sat under the dryer about 20 minutes then went to bed with it spread behind me on the pillow without SOTC.

This morning, it was very easy to SOTC, and I have very shiny, healthy-looking curls that are holding up well so far. Cant' wait to try CEJ on a normal day when I haven't just PT'd/DT'd - that'll be its real test for me. And I can't wait until the FHG is available either!

I was a little surprised that my hair was a difficult to comb out after the DT (I hadn't ever combed thru it while it was actually on it). I really could've used a little LI to help, but I wanted to used unadulterated SS products as much as possible, so I didn't. Plus I was afraid it'd make me greasy after the DT. Next time I need to just be sure the comb it thru while still on my hair.

I was pleasantly surprised at how easily the DT rinsed out since it's so nice and rich - I had been afraid it'd be a bit much for me, but not so at all.

My one sort of complaint about any of the SS stuff is how lingering the fragrance is - I still smell it very strongly, and it clashes with my perfume. I just need to leave it off, I guess, on the first day. To me the CEJ is kinda stinky even right in the bottle - it smells similar to the other products but with a little edge I don't particularly like. If it works as well for me as for everyone else, I'll get used to it, though. The PT and DT smelled so yummy they made me want to taste them, LOL!

Anyway, overall, another convert, I think!
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
ok, as the work day draws to a close, I am finding that the hold didn't last all day...I was fairly conservative on my FHG usage, so I might have to try using more next time...I require quite a bit of hold
on my CG journey since 10/31/09
**2-3ish mix/coarse/med-high porosity/v thick/graying, color treated
cleansers: CJ DF
co-wash: TJ TTT/Suave DC
rinse out/treatments: YTT/YTC/HSH Pumpkin/CJ CR/AO GPB
Stylers: homemade FSG/HETMS spray
pixiecurl diffusing in winter, air drying in summer, Icequeen method, combing right before plopping
glycerin, panthenol, heavy oils, diffusing in summer, Suave Cherry Blossom co, gel

My one sort of complaint about any of the SS stuff is how lingering the fragrance is - I still smell it very strongly, and it clashes with my perfume. I just need to leave it off, I guess, on the first day. To me the CEJ is kinda stinky even right in the bottle - it smells similar to the other products but with a little edge I don't particularly like. If it works as well for me as for everyone else, I'll get used to it, though. The PT and DT smelled so yummy they made me want to taste them, LOL!
Originally Posted by auntnett
I'm very, very sensitive to fragrances and when I got my SS samples from kathymack I was seriously overwhelmed by the scent (in the bottle). I put them away because I didn't think I'd even be able to use them (I was afraid I would have to wash my hair later in the day to get the scent out). I kept reading about how great her products were though and I did want to see what all the hype was about so I used them one day...while the scent was strong as I was applying the products, I didn't notice it at all throughout the day and only smelled it again when I washed it out. It didn't linger in my hair, which was great - though it sounds like it does for you.

I have exchanged some emails with runnerchicki and the good news is that she is working on some naturally (essential oil) scented versions! She is also willing to do unscented products, though she did say that some of the products don't smell very good unscented. For my order that I just placed a couple days ago, she was nice enough to use only a tiny amount of fragrance. She is great to work with, very nice and accomodating
Karisa
2b
Oh, I wish I'd asked for low fragrance.

I wonder if she'll do like BB and offer multiple scent options, cause, really, I love being able to PICK my own scent. And I like to specify "lightly scented" when possible, cause sometimes, a strong scent makes me wanna barf.
3a3b dry, dyed --newly "banged"
Natural since 11/25/09 (Miami)

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~S&C; SMasters Method; Pixie-curling
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I thought I was sensitive to fragrances, but I guess, there are those who are moreso than I.

I'm not a big fan of the FHG smell, but I can only smell it when the jar is open. So, no biggie there. Also, the CEJ barely seems to have a smell at all to me. It def does not linger for me at all. None of them linger. I love the smell of the PT and Emollience, they both smell "coco-latte" as they were described.

Or I wonder if there was a recent batch variation, because the CEJ I'm using is from the first batch. *shrugs* Cause really, the scent is extremely mild to me.
Grand Goobah Caedran, Aqueous Infusion of Demulcents, Order of the Curly Crusaders

Fia 2cFi, fine texture, med porosity CG 5-29-09 * My hair loves protein! Currently using : DermOrganics Shampoo and IHM, G2B Kinkier Mousse, Re:Coil VMM, Anything Spiral Solutions! MO Sealing. Coconut Oil Pre-Poo, once a month Hard Water shampoo. Avoiding Glycerin in finishing products.

Just adding: I got a very nice 2nd day with CEJ; might as well pushed it to 3rd, but I slept on my hair.

I adore the non-sticky feeling. Unlike KCCC, I can run my fingers through my curls. Amazing.
Brunette, almost BSL length, growing out.
CG since Feb 2008, modified CG since September 2008.

I now know my texture/porosity!! (TY, Tiffany!) Medium texture; ends on a porous side; new growth - normal porosity.

Wash: Suave; EO Sweet Orange shampoo

Conditioner: GVP Balm, Mango Lustrasilk

Styling: KCCC, BRHG and LA Looks

Want to try: CJ
I thought I was sensitive to fragrances, but I guess, there are those who are moreso than I.

I'm not a big fan of the FHG smell, but I can only smell it when the jar is open. So, no biggie there. Also, the CEJ barely seems to have a smell at all to me. It def does not linger for me at all. None of them linger. I love the smell of the PT and Emollience, they both smell "coco-latte" as they were described.

Or I wonder if there was a recent batch variation, because the CEJ I'm using is from the first batch. *shrugs* Cause really, the scent is extremely mild to me.
Originally Posted by goobernut
I suspect there might be the case, which, really, I'd expect in handmade products made in small batches. I guess I just happened to get hold of a stronger smelling batch.

I do like it all - it looks, really, really healthy and shiny, but by end of day yesterday it had drooped a little, but I didn't have the FHG, and the gel I did use isn't as hard holding as LALSG or BRHG. I need to try it with one of them until I can get some FHG. Plus it may have been extra soft due to the DT. Even so, it held up well enough that it stayed out of my face so that I never put it half up as I so often end up doing.

I pineappled last night and used some plain AVG to refresh/reactivate (saving the more costly CEJ, plus didn't want to add more of the smell since it definitely did not go away for me - the AVG reactivated the smell so that it was REALLY strong again until it dried), and today it's even curlier and bouncier than yesterday.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
There is definitely scent variation between batches.

I have 2 CEJ and 2 FHG from different batches...the original samples as well (so 3 total I guess)

The original samples were very mild smelling. Could hardly smell the FHG at all and the CEJ was very low key--but sweet but not so as you'd notice.

The first set I got of the products had a much stronger smell--Thyme and Tea I think was noted? At first I wasn't sure what to make of it but I've grown accostomed and now actually quite like it..its more herbal and less sweet smelling

Then I bought another FHG off the swap board and a CEJ (to be sure I didn't run out lol!) and they smell way different than the ones I got originally (in the big bottles)..they smell more like the samples that we got to try early on.

They all work the same though as far as I can tell. Today I did not need ANY clips or bobby pins...it was a do over day though...I tried Deva ArcAngell over CEJ and it was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions...awful terrible disgusting hair that was as dry as the Sahara...I rinsed well and applied CEJ and the FHG and it's awesome.

So the Deva's going either to the swap board or donated to some other local curly..I have never had a product dry my hair out like that. It was SCARY! My hair was so dry! Shudder....
FIA 2c/3aFi

Done experimenting! Loving Spiral Solutions products!

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There is definitely scent variation between batches.

I have 2 CEJ and 2 FHG from different batches...the original samples as well (so 3 total I guess)

The original samples were very mild smelling. Could hardly smell the FHG at all and the CEJ was very low key--but sweet but not so as you'd notice.

The first set I got of the products had a much stronger smell--Thyme and Tea I think was noted? At first I wasn't sure what to make of it but I've grown accostomed and now actually quite like it..its more herbal and less sweet smelling

Then I bought another FHG off the swap board and a CEJ (to be sure I didn't run out lol!) and they smell way different than the ones I got originally (in the big bottles)..they smell more like the samples that we got to try early on.

They all work the same though as far as I can tell. Today I did not need ANY clips or bobby pins...it was a do over day though...I tried Deva ArcAngell over CEJ and it was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions...awful terrible disgusting hair that was as dry as the Sahara...I rinsed well and applied CEJ and the FHG and it's awesome.

So the Deva's going either to the swap board or donated to some other local curly..I have never had a product dry my hair out like that. It was SCARY! My hair was so dry! Shudder....
Originally Posted by Alexjoujou
I feel your pain. Both the Deva Angell and ArcAngell made my hair feel horribly dry every time I used them no matter what I tried underneath. That's the one reason I don't use them. If it wasn't for that, I think I'd like them because I like how my hair turns out - just can't stand the feeling!
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Fine, Thick, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

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I feel your pain. Both the Deva Angell and ArcAngell made my hair feel horribly dry every time I used them no matter what I tried underneath. That's the one reason I don't use them. If it wasn't for that, I think I'd like them because I like how my hair turns out - just can't stand the feeling!
Originally Posted by msgiblet
At this point, I'm spoiled. I'm used to my hair looking AND feeling great. I'm not will to settle for only one and not the other, either.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
There is definitely scent variation between batches.

I have 2 CEJ and 2 FHG from different batches...the original samples as well (so 3 total I guess)

The original samples were very mild smelling. Could hardly smell the FHG at all and the CEJ was very low key--but sweet but not so as you'd notice.

The first set I got of the products had a much stronger smell--Thyme and Tea I think was noted? At first I wasn't sure what to make of it but I've grown accostomed and now actually quite like it..its more herbal and less sweet smelling

Then I bought another FHG off the swap board and a CEJ (to be sure I didn't run out lol!) and they smell way different than the ones I got originally (in the big bottles)..they smell more like the samples that we got to try early on.

They all work the same though as far as I can tell. Today I did not need ANY clips or bobby pins...it was a do over day though...I tried Deva ArcAngell over CEJ and it was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions...awful terrible disgusting hair that was as dry as the Sahara...I rinsed well and applied CEJ and the FHG and it's awesome.

So the Deva's going either to the swap board or donated to some other local curly..I have never had a product dry my hair out like that. It was SCARY! My hair was so dry! Shudder....
Originally Posted by Alexjoujou
I've been away from computers for the past week, but when I got back today, I had a nice PM from Runnerchicki offering to replace my CEJ for a milder scented bottle - I've used enough that it's not worth sending it back at this point, but excellent customer service!

She said she'd noticed one of the ingredients smelled different with the last order she received, which probably accounts for that underlying edge I'm getting. I've sort of gotten used to it but am probably using less of it at a time than I would otherwise, so I probably still haven't gotten it's full, best results yet.

Still loving the PT and DT though!
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
Since I did a protein deep treatment on Friday, I'm not gonna use SS pdt today, but I'm gonna use the products I got Saturday--the CEJ, FHG, and deeply decadent moisturizer as my leave-in.

I don't like caramel latte as a body/hair scent, I'm afraid. I have some of the butter on my rash right now (i'm having an autoimmune flare-up, so joints and muscles and skin are acting up). I have noticed it does fade rather promptly, so, for me, that's good.

I do like the fruity smell she uses, though.

It's just too weird to have my hair smell like I poured my Starbucks caramel macchiatto on it. hee
3a3b dry, dyed --newly "banged"
Natural since 11/25/09 (Miami)

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~S&C; SMasters Method; Pixie-curling
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She PM'd me today that she can leave the CEJ unscented - probably can the other products, too.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
I put up Fotki pics of my hair with the SS (and I put a new thread on my results). Not so great, but I will reuse with less conditioning to see if that helps.

On the plus side, I remain super soft and touchable today after Pineappling and sleeping 12 hours, that's a lot of pineapple time. It really feels like there's NOTHIGN in my hair, but my curls are too loose in the nape/back (like in the 2's instead of 2s). The scent is not persistent, which is good.

My hair feels very nicely moisturized with the DD as leave-in, but I may need to skip rinse-out or leave-in (not both, I'm too dry) and use more gel.

I had NO crunch, and I used a generous amount of both the CEJ and FHG. Dew points are curl-friendly, too.

I used some of the body butter on my hand rash (I changed diswashing liquids, and this one seems too harsh and gave me a rash on the back of my hand) and it's softer and calmer today. Didn't use on hair, though, as it's doing well after a K-Pak Friday.
3a3b dry, dyed --newly "banged"
Natural since 11/25/09 (Miami)

Shine & Spring w/ Sweet Curls Elixirs!
Curl Junkie Conditions!
Re:coil ROCKS!

~CJ Protein Tx
; BEE-U-Ti-Ful Deep Condish
~S&C; SMasters Method; Pixie-curling
Dumping clumps for VOLUME!
http://public.fotki.com/MirCurls/


Marchioness Mir, Magister of Moisturization & Mystic of the Lofty Crown in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
I posted this on another thread, but it deserves repeating .... The SS CEJ & FHG have hit the "must have backup bottle" status for me. !! LOL

I used CEJ and FHG in nasty weather for the first time yesterday. You would have never known that I had been out in the rain and wind. My hair looked fabulous all day. It didn't have any frizz, and lots of well defined curls - with volume. My hair looks good enough today to consider it 2nd day hair. WOW.

I used the KMS Cranberry & Pepper gel over the CEJ. The KMS gel is about the strongest hold of gel that I use. I use the FHG a little differently. After I've been diffusing for a couple of minutes, I scrunch in some of the FHG. It reallys helps boost the curl. The FHG isn't a product I would use the way I use my gels, but I love it this way.
Type: 3a fine & dense,with normal porosity, terrible product junkie
ROUTINE: LI, enhancer, gel, plop with Curlease towel, serum product (either CIAB or Gel-les'c), clip & diffuse.
Too many favourite products to list ... I finally have my routine that works and alot of products to choose from. My product stash is huge, but well loved !!!
I ordered my back-up bottles of CEJ and FHG Saturday, even though the bottle and jar I have now are not even a quarter used.
3a3b dry, dyed --newly "banged"
Natural since 11/25/09 (Miami)

Shine & Spring w/ Sweet Curls Elixirs!
Curl Junkie Conditions!
Re:coil ROCKS!

~CJ Protein Tx
; BEE-U-Ti-Ful Deep Condish
~S&C; SMasters Method; Pixie-curling
Dumping clumps for VOLUME!
http://public.fotki.com/MirCurls/


Marchioness Mir, Magister of Moisturization & Mystic of the Lofty Crown in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
I pre-ordered Caitlin's Conditioner today and am anxiously waiting for the Repairing Protein Treatment and the Deeply Decadent to become available again.
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