Flirting with Amodimethicone - Help, am I going down a wrong path?

Okay, so I need moisture. So I searched here and found that people love Mixed Chicks Deep Treatment. It's not 'til I bought it last week and brought it home that I notice it has Amodimethicone. Agony, anguish, more searching, read up on amodimethicone, find that if I use it, I should use a lo-poo for any build up. Got my hair trimmed today, bought Deva Curl lo-poo.

So. Now I'm out over $30, with both products. And the MCDT hasn't really been amazing or anything. Maybe some good shrinkage but that might have been because I was trying harder w/ the whole routine.

1. If I stop using MCDT now, do I still have to use the Lo-poo to get the Amodimethicone out?
2. If I use the Lo-poo is my hair going to be all dry and stripped?

Here's the thing that confuses me. The MCDT is supposed to lay down the silicone and "repair" the damaged parts of the hair, but once I strip it off with the lo-poo, aren't I even worse off? So then aren't I getting into a vicious cycle, where everything I do strips moisture?

I think I have officially stepped through the gates of product junkie hell.

I'm sure someone's discussed this before on the boards, but if someone else remembers the thread(s), could you please let me know?

My scalp is perfectly happy with no-poo. I just wanted (sob) more moisture...

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Last edited by emgirl; 02-09-2010 at 11:10 PM. Reason: didn't see my signature
Whenever I play around with amodimethicone products, I wind up using a sulfate shampoo to get rid of the stuff...but I'm not using the CG method. I'm a fan of low and no sulfate shampoos on a regular basis (the whole co-washing thing does not agree with my naturally greasy scalp).
This last time around after playing with a Redken amodimethicone product, my bottle of low-sulfate EO Products shampoo worked just fine.
If you want to avoid sulfates entirely, I have successfully used just plain ole fresh squeezed lemon juice diluted with water (don't use the bottled stuff) with great success. An ACV rinse should also do the trick.
there is an article by the curl chemist on cones, and she says that amodimethicone usually does not build up, so it is one of the safer cones. i used it successfully in the old deva one condition, my hair loved it.
i low pooed once a week, same as now, and it did not damage my hair. low poos have surfactants, not sulfates. it removes the dirt without removing the moisture. if your hair is happy with the product, i'd say stick with it. i am now going to look up the rest of the ingredients in that and i might buy it as i suspect my hair loves amodimethicone.
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Has anyone used the Mixed Chicks leave-in for a prolonged time and had any build up issues?
I really liked the stuff but when I heard it had the A cone in it I stopped using it and never found out if I would get build up from it.

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there is an article by the curl chemist on cones, and she says that amodimethicone usually does not build up, so it is one of the safer cones. i used it successfully in the old deva one condition, my hair loved it.
i low pooed once a week, same as now, and it did not damage my hair. low poos have surfactants, not sulfates. it removes the dirt without removing the moisture. if your hair is happy with the product, i'd say stick with it. i am now going to look up the rest of the ingredients in that and i might buy it as i suspect my hair loves amodimethicone.
Originally Posted by rbb
rbb have you tried any other conditioners with A-cone? I haven't. Not because I'm adverse to it, just because the ones that work for me don't happen to have it. I was also a DevaOne-C old formula lover as you know so I'm curious what else you've tried? I know the new LVPNG has A-cone which everyone is avoiding like the plague I'm just waiting to get through my stash before I buy more...
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I was out of town over the weekend and need to buy something inexpensive and easy to apply, so I bought a bottle of Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine Leave-In Conditioner, Aussie Tizz No Frizz Gel and a spray detangler (L'Oreal?... can't remember now...). Anyway, they all have amodimethicone.

The weather was cold and rainy and my hair looked great. It didn't get all poofy like it usually does.

Last night I washed with a non-sulfate shampoo and went back to my natural oil-based conditioners and again, the curls look good.

My hair seems to like the amodimethicone, but I don't think I'll be using it much, just so I won't feel the need to wash. But it might depend on the weather, who knows?

I guess experimenting with what products work for you (and how much and how often) is the key. No two heads are the same. Some hair likes 'cones and some might even like sulfates and others don't. After a while you'll know how your hair reacts to certain products and regimens.

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Over time the a-cone will build up on those who are sensitive to it despite that it is not supposed to. I had to use a gentle clarifying poo for a month with brown sugar TTO scrubs. IMO a good gentle CP is Avalon Organics Clarifying Poo.

Lo poos won't strip your hair but if you are concerned make sure to use a rich moisturizer after.

Unfortunately, there is nothing that is cone-free but that works like cones to make your hair frizz free. But there are plenty of super moisturizing conishes out there that don't have the a-cone in it. If you adequately moisturize your hair, it should become less and less frizzy. I find that the more you follow CG and the better condition your hair becomes, you will not need things like cones.
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My hair loves amodimethicone. Come to the dark side. Bwahahaha.
Seriously, though...if you're against low-poooing, then it's not for you. Low poo works fine for me, so I continue to use my beloved a-cone.
I took a break from using my favorite leave-in with a-cone the past two days...my hair has felt drier and more staticky...it's a combo of the weather and letting my hair go au naturel!
If you like the leave-in and don't mind low pooing, then go for it. If you're not even that crazy about it or don't like the idea of low pooing, then give it up.
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rbb have you tried any other conditioners with A-cone? I haven't. Not because I'm adverse to it, just because the ones that work for me don't happen to have it. I was also a DevaOne-C old formula lover as you know so I'm curious what else you've tried? I know the new LVPNG has A-cone which everyone is avoiding like the plague I'm just waiting to get through my stash before I buy more...
Originally Posted by DEL2C
del -- i have not tried anything else with the a-cone simply because i did not find any that had ingredients i liked. i might try mixed chicks now.
i do use and love both the cj curl rehab and spiral solutions dt!!
altho i think my hair is so much better with the a-cone. the old deva one c was my hg!!
have you tried any?
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washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab, lalsg. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
Thank you for weighing in, everyone! I can't get over how NICE everyone is on these boards.

I returned the Deva low poo. But I might try a low poo - maybe the Giovanni 50 50 shampoo. I thought I read that it's a sulfate-free, gentle low poo, but now I can't find where I read that... sigh.
Never tried Deva-Lo Poo
But I have a sample of the Giovanni 50/50.
I've only tried it once, but I can say it is a very effective shampoo. It was a little drying, actually...but conditioner took care of that. My hair and scalp felt clean after washing with it, as if I had used a sulfate. I don't plan on using it often because it might be one of those non-sulfate shampoos that are as harsh as sulfate shampoos. If you want to clarify your hair (well, kind of...it's probably not as harsh as an actual clarifying shampoo), you could try this as an alternative to sulfate. It'll likely get a lot out.
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