shoulder length anybody?

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But a lot of others have been saying that sulfates are bad so what's the truth!

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Well the reasons sulfates are bad especially for curliest and kinkies is because they remove all moisture and oils from your hair. Have you ever noticed that squeaky clean feeling after you wash your hair and before you put conditioner? That's not good for our hair cuz as u know moisture is our friend.
My hair is past my shoulder shoulders, sort of between shoulders and apl, almost apl? I posted a pic in the 3cs board but oh well, I guess I can post it again, right?


I use shampoo maybe twice a week (sometimes with sulfates), I choose by scent and then I apply regular conditioner and leave it in. That's it. No secrets here!
I use an organic conditioner, but I'm not afraid of silicones.
My hair used to never grow that much either until I started to follow this routine.
A lot of people have different routines, but it all breaks down to keeping your hair, especially your ends healthy and moisturized. I never get a trim because I don't have split ends (no it's no joke and it's not genetics). I had a bob cut in 2009. The longest layer was between chin and shoulder pulled straight, so pretty short. Don't be discouraged girls. Everyone can do it!


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My hair is past my shoulder shoulders, sort of between shoulders and apl, almost apl? I posted a pic in the 3cs board but oh well, I guess I can post it again, right?


I use shampoo maybe twice a week (sometimes with sulfates), I choose by scent and then I apply regular conditioner and leave it in. That's it. No secrets here!
I use an organic conditioner, but I'm not afraid of silicones.
My hair used to never grow that much either until I started to follow this routine.
A lot of people have different routines, but it all breaks down to keeping your hair, especially your ends healthy and moisturized. I never get a trim because I don't have split ends (no it's no joke and it's not genetics). I had a bob cut in 2009. The longest layer was between chin and shoulder pulled straight, so pretty short. Don't be discouraged girls. Everyone can do it!


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Originally Posted by RainyDays
You have such pretty curls!!!
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do you do protective styles? I know when i first cut my permed ends after three months I was frustrated because i felt like it was growing like a snail.. I got a weave (curly one) so I could mix my natural hair and out of sight out of mind... I also had Hand-in-hair syndrome and couldnt stop touching it so that let me stop manipulating my edges etc every 10 minutes.. I have pictures in my fotki that shows going from ear length to collar bone ( where I am now) and time lines..

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do you do protective styles? I know when i first cut my permed ends after three months I was frustrated because i felt like it was growing like a snail.. I got a weave (curly one) so I could mix my natural hair and out of sight out of mind... I also had Hand-in-hair syndrome and couldnt stop touching it so that let me stop manipulating my edges etc every 10 minutes.. I have pictures in my fotki that shows going from ear length to collar bone ( where I am now) and time lines..
Originally Posted by FabledBeauty
Who are you asking? Me?Anyone? Well, I'm going to answer anyway
I don't do protective styles. I wear my hair out whenever I feel like it. I only put my hair up at night.
Finally made it to solid shoulder length.
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wow!! i didnt know people were still writing on this
all of you have grown your hair to your shoulders, you guys are my inspiration!!! D;
i just really hope i can get there too
Rainy Days: ill definatley try what you wrote


and also a question do you guys ever feel like when you use oils your hair feels and looks extra greasy? i use a little less than a dime size amount and my hair always feels greasy
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wow!! i didnt know people were still writing on this
all of you have grown your hair to your shoulders, you guys are my inspiration!!! D;
i just really hope i can get there too
Rainy Days: ill definatley try what you wrote


and also a question do you guys ever feel like when you use oils your hair feels and looks extra greasy? i use a little less than a dime size amount and my hair always feels greasy
Originally Posted by elenaa
What oils are you using? Some oils definitely feel greasier than others, regardless of amount used. However, I'm a 4a and I PS 99.7% of the time, so that doesn't bother me much.

It is super important that you listen to your hair's needs. You mentioned that twist-outs worked in the past, that could be because of the low manipulation involved. You may want to wear more low to no-manipulation styles if you're trying to grow. If you've been at the same length for 3 years, your retention is the issue, not growth itself. Try taking supremely good care of it and leaving it alone and see what happens.

I wish I would wear my hair out everyday! My hair would cause a flippin rebellion in here. I can't do that, RainyDays can and she's got gorgeous hair to prove it. I washed and conditioned my hair last week and let it air dry unstretched--my APL length hair was 3 inches long! I tried not trimming--umm, NO. My hair is NOT having it, so now I trim every 10 weeks. Oh, and I saw a friend of mine whom I hadn't seen in months, who didn't recognize me with my "short" haircut. Umm, dude, my hair is 4 inches longer than the last time I saw you... people see what they want to. Don't believe the hype!
i tried using tea tree oil at first but it started making my hair smell like wet dog after 2 days of using it D; so i only use it to massage my scalp and then i rinse it out

but now to seal im using olive oil.. and what is PS if you dont mind me asking?

and yeah right now im going back to twist/braid outs
i kinda like how the braid out looks alot better but yeah i know what you mean and i really hate when people say that!!
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I have a few tips that I have learned both through trial and error and by reading suggestions from the knowledgeable curlies here on NC. First, I'll start off by telling you that your hair is unique and what works for me may not work for you, although I have 3c/4a like you. Our hair properties may be different, the weather we live in can affect our results, and the water in our areas can also be different. These are just a few of the factors that can affect your hair.

I'll start from the inside out. Eating healthy, exercising, and drinking lots of water have given me very good results with my hair. Obviously, consistency is key, but with the water drinking, I can see a difference in my hair within a few days. It is said that we should be drinking half of our body weight in ounces of water. (If you weigh 120 lbs, you need 60 ozs of water.) I have also had good results with a consistent vitamin regimen. I've tried different brands and amounts but the most effective supplements seem to be biotin and MSM. I personally take a hair, skin, and nails vitamin, and extra biotin and MSM.

Now to the exterior. Many will tell you that low manipulation and protective styling (PS) are the best ways to get your hair to grow long and healthy. I don't necessarily disagree with this, but I can't say that I've done either one throughout my natural hair journey. I've tried everything you can imagine. Sulfate poos, sulfate free poos, natural organic poos, cheap stuff, expensive stuff, homemade stuff and everything in between. The one thing I have found to be consistent is the need for moisture. I know many need protein too, but my hair hates it so I cannot help you there. My regimen for winter is quite simple. Unfortunately, I cannot co wash only because I get build up and I break out. I am now alternating between Kinky Curly Come Clean and SheaMoisture shampoo, Sally's GVP conditioning balm is my rinse out conditioner which I also use to detangle my hair. For stylers I use KCKT layered under KCCC or CJ Beauticurls LI under CJ CIAB. Sometimes I add some olive oil to the LI to seal in moisture. Every night I massage my scalp with a few drops of jojoba oil, this soothes my sometimes itchy scalp and keeps it from getting dry and flaky during the winter. I also use jojoba oil to SOTC after my hair is dry. I have never done a twist out, braid out or any other PS. I always wear my hair out and I don't really have any bad ends.

I hope this very long post helps you in some way or another!

PS. I've been natural for a few years now. I didn't start documenting my length until about 2 years ago. On my 21st birthday in Jan '10, my hair was barely grazing my shoulders when dry. It was about 14 inches long. Now its between APL and BSL dry and WL straightened, its 32 inches long. That's 18 inches in just under 2 years. Oh and by the way I don't trim or cut my hair, I only cut off any knots that I see when I'm detangling.
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i tried using tea tree oil at first but it started making my hair smell like wet dog after 2 days of using it D; so i only use it to massage my scalp and then i rinse it out

but now to seal im using olive oil.. and what is PS if you dont mind me asking?

and yeah right now im going back to twist/braid outs
i kinda like how the braid out looks alot better but yeah i know what you mean and i really hate when people say that!!
Originally Posted by elenaa
PS=protective styling, which essentially means keeping your ends protected and off your neck, shoulders, places where it can snag, etc.

Some people get great growth without doing it, but since you've indicated that you've been at the same length for 3 years, that may very well be a source of concern for you.

My hair isn't fond of olive oil either. I find it to be super greasy. Try a lighter oil like grapeseed or sweet almond. They can also be found at most health food stores (I haven't found them in my normal grocery store) and see how that might work better. Grapeseed was too light for my hair, so I used it for my body and to cook. Good luck!
Here's my full shoulder length as of this week
And the back
I dusted my ends last night at about 2 so I didn't take any pix but literally only took a 1/2 in or less off by my ends look much better
hii everyone i was just wonder if there was anyone who went from neck length hair or shorter and if they got to shoulder length. if you did could you tell me how you did it? my hair has been the same length for 3 years straight and ive recently started taking care of it for 3 months now but i feel like it grew alittle and that its not growing anymore? idk what it is but maybe im doing something wrong someone help me, pictures would be nice also ^.^


i deep condition once a week with garnier deep conditioner
i dont shampoo, i conditioner only with mane & tail or VO5
i use aussie moist as a leave in conditioner i also do the tightly curly method so i detangle when i get out of the shower and have the conditioner in my hair
at night i braid my hair in two pig tails cause its too short to braid into one braid
as for trimming i only do S&D when i see it needed & my hair type is 3c with some 4a

i think thats pretty much it

really any ideas would help me feel alittle less stressed out D:
Originally Posted by elenaa
Ya that's like me I had neck length for 3 years and I knew it was growing because I dyed it after 2 yrs to see if it was.Its probably just breaking,wearing ponytails don't really help but protective stlyes like buns are better.
I had to take care of my hair for like 8 months to get it to how long it is now.do you put oils in your hair like olive oil? Try keeping your hair moisturized....my hair was neck length when straightened and is now the length of my avatar and maybe a little longer if not trimmed.

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shondadi: congrats on your goal! you hair looks so pretty straight
johari: i use olive oil but like i said it always feels greasy after 2 days so then i have to wash my hair every 2-3 days
Fonnie: thanks for telling me that.. ill have to try using lighter oils then
curled love : thank you so much for your imput especially since you took the time to write ALL that out!! thank you again
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Thanks.I think it won't take too long it get it from neck length to shoulder maybe in a year or less. Just make sure your ends aren't left dry and maybe do hot oil treatments...I'm trying to grow my natural curls to armpit length without it stretched.I think my hair is above shoulder length when natural but it shrinks a lot.

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lol All i can say is that i have wet dreams about shoulder-length curly hair. I'm 4a and with the shrinkage I get, I may not reach that goal until my stretched hair reaches APL...or longer.

Right now, I'm collar bone when stretched. I wish us both luck.
Originally Posted by naturalnewb
Just stumbled across this post and realized how naive I was. If I stretch my hair now, I'm APL...and I'm not even close to shoulder length when curly. My thick 4a hair will need MUUUCH more length to be SL when curly.





lol All i can say is that i have wet dreams about shoulder-length curly hair. I'm 4a and with the shrinkage I get, I may not reach that goal until my stretched hair reaches APL...or longer.

Right now, I'm collar bone when stretched. I wish us both luck.
Originally Posted by naturalnewb
Just stumbled across this post and realized how naive I was. If I stretch my hair now, I'm APL...and I'm not even close to shoulder length when curly. My thick 4a hair will need MUUUCH more length to be SL when curly.
Originally Posted by naturalnewb
I feel u guys I know that I won't b sl curly/kinky until I'm wl stretched! But on the up side that is my long term hair goal
naturalnewb: aww lucky you! congrats btw
Johari: i agree with you cause gosh my hair is at my shoulders.. just alittle longer but thats when its straight ughh i just wish it were that way curly ill just have to keep trying
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