Im trying to grow out my hair, but there's something SERIOUSLY wrong with it!

bump! still looking for a GREAT moisturizing deep conditioner!
Originally Posted by NewlyNaturalG
curl junkie curl rehab <3
highlighted 3a hair. Fine strands, medium to high density. Probably high porosity. Growing uit bad layering and aiming for waist lenght!

Pre-poo: coconut oil
wash: CJ Daily fix or SheaMoisture Coconut&Hibiscus
RO + LI: different every time
Styler: CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB

dislikes: glycerin in low dews, scissor happy stylists, magnesium sulfate

(modified) CG since june 25, 2012
Hiarfinity + extra MSM since March 5., 2014

SL - APL - BSBL- BSL - MBL - WL (stretched)
bump! still looking for a GREAT moisturizing deep conditioner!
Originally Posted by NewlyNaturalG
curl junkie curl rehab <3
Originally Posted by etos
I'll make sure top search it up! But in your post it also says you're experimenting with Biotin pills? How has that been going? I'm thinking of trying them out!
I agree with Curl Junkie rehab-it's the best!!! It leaves my hair feeling like velvet but also shiny, strong and light unlike the AO conditioner I've tried.
Just starting CG! 5-13

2A, fine, dense, high porosity, highlighted

low-poo: Leonor Greyl bain vitalisant b*
co-wash: CJ smoothing*
RO: ^, SS Caitlin's*
DT: CJ rehab
LI: CJ rehab
stylers: CJ CCCC*
oils: coconut


*experimenting
HG

loves: aloe, oils, esp. coconut
hates: acv, baking soda
on the fence about polyquats
I DON'T WANT TO GO TO A RELAXER FOR HELP AGAIN. But I don't know what else to do. So to start from the beginning, I wore weaves for about 2.5 years to grow it out. Once I was all natural I stopped. But my hair is so dry! I thought it was the weaves but my hair is literally irreversibly DRY. No matter what I do to it it's DRY. It rejects all product, I think even water! This is why I thought my hair was low porosity but when I run my fingers through a strand of hair, there is TONS of resistance! And it feels sort of squeaky, and DRY, and brittle and UGH. I put a strand into a glass of water and once I completely submerged the strand in water (using my finger) it sank. I tried the Aphogee Protein Treatment once, it didnt do anything of course (considering my hair rejects EVERYTHING.) I tried the DIY yogurt deep co, I tried the Egg/Mayo deep co, I tried drugstore/beauty supply deep co, I tried the roux porosity conditioner, i even tried the baking soda treatment and NOTHING WORKED. Why does my hair feels like this It should feel like cotton-so soft and luscious. But it just feels like straw! Even oils don't do a thing. Organic Olive Oil, Castor Oil, Coconut Oil, they dont do anything! I tried shea moisture anti-breakage deep co and curl enhancing smoothie and yet again, NO long term difference. My hair feels like crap and products like shea moisture conceal it for a few seconds and my hair is back to "normal." I deep co with a plastic cap and heat too! And I sleep with a satin bonnet! I've NEVER straightened my hair, so it cant be heat damage. I'm just about all natural (except a TINY bit on the ends) and like 21 months post relaxer. If my hair grew the way it should it should be about 10.5 inches long, but it's only about 6 inches long I'm really trying to grow my hair out, BUT I NEED TO GET IT HEALTHY FIRST. Any tips on how I do that? Thank you!

UPDATE: I have used the As I Am Coconut Cowash and deep conditioned with Coconut Oil and Honey (This was all I had that was moisturizing and not protein). And I sealed with Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smootie (There was still some coconut oil on my hair so I put the smoothie on top of that). My hair STILL had a LOT of resistance and had that plastic/squeaky feeling when I rubbed it! My hair dried really fast (or at least had that DRY feeling really fast) and I forget if that means I have High or Low Porosity. The Cowash detangled my hair but my Bentonite Clay Wash DEFINITELY defines and detangles much more! I'm going to continue with the Cowash once a week to see if anything changes and my moisture problem is solved. I still need a better deep conditioner and Leave-in though. Any more tips? Thank you!
Originally Posted by NewlyNaturalG
I'm protein sensitive and most of this stuff would make my hair dry and brittle too. Yogurt only goes in my stomach.
People forget or dont realize there are 3 versions of TN . Volume, moisture and vibrantly smooth .. I have tried them all and only like moisture. They took the isopropyl out of moisture when they reformulated. I use it as a li no prob. Before the ingredient change I couldn't use it as li. For dc I add evoo and banana baby food and honey to it.
Be careful with mineral oil! It could cause the plastic feel you're describing. As could -cones and too much protein! Keep moisturizing and be sure not to use anything that prevents the moisture to enter the cuticle. After moisturizing you could try to use an oil to seal the moisture in. Hope you get the cotton feel you're aiming for very soon!

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2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl
I like Cantu Deep Treatment masque For a deep conditioner, as well as Crecé Pelo for a deep conditioner.
Also I switched from coconut oil to olive oil and my hair loves it. I hope you are finding the products that work best for you.
Be careful with mineral oil! It could cause the plastic feel you're describing. As could -cones and too much protein! Keep moisturizing and be sure not to use anything that prevents the moisture to enter the cuticle. After moisturizing you could try to use an oil to seal the moisture in. Hope you get the cotton feel you're aiming for very soon!

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2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
Originally Posted by rapunzel4ever
Thank you for your well-wishes! However, is there did you see possible mineral oil in my regimen?
I agree with Curl Junkie rehab-it's the best!!! It leaves my hair feeling like velvet but also shiny, strong and light unlike the AO conditioner I've tried.
Originally Posted by mermaidwaves
Thank you for the suggestion! However my hair is 4b-4c so I do not know if the CJR will work as well for me hmm...
I DON'T WANT TO GO TO A RELAXER FOR HELP AGAIN. But I don't know what else to do. So to start from the beginning, I wore weaves for about 2.5 years to grow it out. Once I was all natural I stopped. But my hair is so dry! I thought it was the weaves but my hair is literally irreversibly DRY. No matter what I do to it it's DRY. It rejects all product, I think even water! This is why I thought my hair was low porosity but when I run my fingers through a strand of hair, there is TONS of resistance! And it feels sort of squeaky, and DRY, and brittle and UGH. I put a strand into a glass of water and once I completely submerged the strand in water (using my finger) it sank. I tried the Aphogee Protein Treatment once, it didnt do anything of course (considering my hair rejects EVERYTHING.) I tried the DIY yogurt deep co, I tried the Egg/Mayo deep co, I tried drugstore/beauty supply deep co, I tried the roux porosity conditioner, i even tried the baking soda treatment and NOTHING WORKED. Why does my hair feels like this It should feel like cotton-so soft and luscious. But it just feels like straw! Even oils don't do a thing. Organic Olive Oil, Castor Oil, Coconut Oil, they dont do anything! I tried shea moisture anti-breakage deep co and curl enhancing smoothie and yet again, NO long term difference. My hair feels like crap and products like shea moisture conceal it for a few seconds and my hair is back to "normal." I deep co with a plastic cap and heat too! And I sleep with a satin bonnet! I've NEVER straightened my hair, so it cant be heat damage. I'm just about all natural (except a TINY bit on the ends) and like 21 months post relaxer. If my hair grew the way it should it should be about 10.5 inches long, but it's only about 6 inches long I'm really trying to grow my hair out, BUT I NEED TO GET IT HEALTHY FIRST. Any tips on how I do that? Thank you!

UPDATE: I have used the As I Am Coconut Cowash and deep conditioned with Coconut Oil and Honey (This was all I had that was moisturizing and not protein). And I sealed with Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smootie (There was still some coconut oil on my hair so I put the smoothie on top of that). My hair STILL had a LOT of resistance and had that plastic/squeaky feeling when I rubbed it! My hair dried really fast (or at least had that DRY feeling really fast) and I forget if that means I have High or Low Porosity. The Cowash detangled my hair but my Bentonite Clay Wash DEFINITELY defines and detangles much more! I'm going to continue with the Cowash once a week to see if anything changes and my moisture problem is solved. I still need a better deep conditioner and Leave-in though. Any more tips? Thank you!
Originally Posted by NewlyNaturalG
I'm protein sensitive and most of this stuff would make my hair dry and brittle too. Yogurt only goes in my stomach.
People forget or dont realize there are 3 versions of TN . Volume, moisture and vibrantly smooth .. I have tried them all and only like moisture. They took the isopropyl out of moisture when they reformulated. I use it as a li no prob. Before the ingredient change I couldn't use it as li. For dc I add evoo and banana baby food and honey to it.
Originally Posted by adthomas
Use it as a leave in? I don't know I wanted to try the Giovanni's Direct Leave In. For deep conditioner, I would hope to not have to add too much else to it and can work by itself pretty well.
I like Cantu Deep Treatment masque For a deep conditioner, as well as Crecé Pelo for a deep conditioner.
Also I switched from coconut oil to olive oil and my hair loves it. I hope you are finding the products that work best for you.
Originally Posted by Always@night
Yes I did notice Olive Oil has some useful slip.But the smell is not something I want on my hair! Maybe I should add Olive Oil to my deep conditioners rather than the coconut oil. Thanks!
Just put some olive oil in a smaller bottle and add a few drops of rose oil. A few drops of rose oil is enough to mask the scent of olive oil.

_____
2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
2B/C-3A) fine - low porosity
Routine:
Wash: Daily Fix,SMT, Kesham, Urtekram
RO: Motions CPR Li, Inecto Cocos co, AO GPB, KCTT
acv-rinse, sometimes honey-rinse
LI: coconut oil (winter), CJBC-LI
Styling: AVG, Etos Solid Power Gel, Taft gel, CJPP
, JCCC, BRHG
Plopping~Pixiecurl diffuse~clipping
KrullenWijzer.blogspot.nl
I like Cantu Deep Treatment masque For a deep conditioner, as well as Crecé Pelo for a deep conditioner.
Also I switched from coconut oil to olive oil and my hair loves it. I hope you are finding the products that work best for you.
Originally Posted by Always@night
Yes I did notice Olive Oil has some useful slip.But the smell is not something I want on my hair! Maybe I should add Olive Oil to my deep conditioners rather than the coconut oil. Thanks!
Originally Posted by NewlyNaturalG
Avocado oil or a refined olive oil instead of extra virgin. In the UK that would be called light olive oil and olive pomace oil, not sure what your US naming system is.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Just put some olive oil in a smaller bottle and add a few drops of rose oil. A few drops of rose oil is enough to mask the scent of olive oil.

_____
2b-c/3a med/fine- low porosity- normal elasticity, BSL
Originally Posted by rapunzel4ever
I like Cantu Deep Treatment masque For a deep conditioner, as well as Crecé Pelo for a deep conditioner.
Also I switched from coconut oil to olive oil and my hair loves it. I hope you are finding the products that work best for you.
Originally Posted by Always@night
Yes I did notice Olive Oil has some useful slip.But the smell is not something I want on my hair! Maybe I should add Olive Oil to my deep conditioners rather than the coconut oil. Thanks!
Originally Posted by NewlyNaturalG
Avocado oil or a refined olive oil instead of extra virgin. In the UK that would be called light olive oil and olive pomace oil, not sure what your US naming system is.
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
Hmm okay thanks for the idea! And in the US I think it's just "light" olive oil or it simply says "olive oil" haha thanks!

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