MSM or Biotin???

I was just curious I have been hearing so much about MSM and Biotin. There isn't to much on this forum about eaither. Does it seem like it helps hair growth? Any side effects?

I already massage my head each night with rosemary and sandalwood, and try to drink as much water as I can. But I'm thinking I should be taking some type of vitamin supplements as well. Any other reccomendations? Thanks in advance!
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I take both along with a multi and fish oil. I used to take GNC's skin,hair, nails (which has a little of everything) but lately just been taking separate biotin and MSM. I think they have helped with shedding and a bit with growth. I've been taken them in one form or another for years now, so it's hard to tell. My hair still splits alot, so I think I'm lacking in silica (another vitamin for hair). My nails grow super fast and very rarely break though.

Some say biotin makes their skin breakout...I haven't noticed this, but I use alot of things on my skin (retin-a) so maybe it stays clear.

They are safe vitamins to try out (I haven't heard of any bad side effects) and are inexpensive when on sale (buy 1 get 1 free sales and such). Try them and see how they work for you.
I started using an MSM supplement from Whole Foods and taking prenatal vitamins in mid-September. I think it's helped my hair grow a bit faster. I will know with more certainty in a few months if it's really working or if it's just wishful thinking on my part. The MSM takes at least 6 weeks to start working in your system.
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MSM is great for lengthing the growth phase of your hair growth,Biotin is great for hair growth.Some people do report getting acne so you would have to try it out and see how it works for you.
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I do both. I was having good growth with Biotin but it sped up when I added MSM. I had some breakout on my scalp when I started the Biotin but I cut my dose down and eased it back up week by week. My scalp cleared up in about a week. You need to drink plenty of water with it. Biotin apparently brings all impurities to the surface faster and that explain some of the breakouts.
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You need to also watch for allergies. Some MSM complex supplements may have shellfish in them.
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Some hair vitamins have plenyy of them both, like Nourishair. Nourishair definitely helped with growth, but I went back to a regular multivitamin because I can't find a hair multivitamin that contains enough calcium. I hate taking a bunch of pills.

I've taken a multi plus biotin on the side, but didn't notice much change in growth rate with that. Could be that I was only taking 1000mcg though, which isn't a large amount.
Well I ended up getting a supplement, its just a hair skin & nails from walmart. But it has 3000 mg's of biotin, vitamin B, zinc, horsetail and collagen. So hopefully this will help some. I still haven't been able to find any msm but I would like to try and get some of that too...
I have shoulder length 3c curls thanks to my grandfather who is french and bohemian.

My Staples are: Curl Junkie Coco Coffee Curl Creme, Mixed Chicks Leave-In, Joico Curl Activator, lots of Deep Treatments....
Well I ended up getting a supplement, its just a hair skin & nails from walmart. But it has 3000 mg's of biotin, vitamin B, zinc, horsetail and collagen. So hopefully this will help some. I still haven't been able to find any msm but I would like to try and get some of that too...
Originally Posted by curlyboho
You can also find MSM at any GNC and the brand from GNC has no added ingredients.
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MSM they have it at Trader Joes for $5. I started taking it last week, because I read so much about it in this site. A lot of people seem to swear by it. What HAS definitely worked for me, and you and I seem to have about the same lenght same type of hair (since wanting to get it longer) is PHYTO (paris) Phytophanere. They sell it at higher end stores (Nordstrom, Neimans) and it's pricy. Recently I saw they carry it in Sephora. The actual amount of Biotin it contains is not that high. But perhaps it's not necessary. They say the body will use what it needs and then get rhid of the rest. IDK. all I know is that I've been taking them for like 3 weeks and my hair is definitely longer. And it's not just me, my friend commented on it too and specifically asked if I was taking anything to make my hair grow. Just FYI. If you don't mind spending a little more ( $50 or get some gift certificates during the holidays, that's how I got mine), I would definitely recommend these.
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I take both, through the bit of research I have done I have come out of it with the understanding that MSM lengthens the growth stage of you hair and biotin helps to make the hair shaft thicker....I need and want BOTH!


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I take the hair, skin, and nails vitamin from Walmart, too. I get MSM from Fleximin, and I am taking extra Biotin. I hope it speeds up the growing process and thickens my hair. Walmart has MSM in a 1000 dose per pill.
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You can get it here for what I think is a good cost: http://www.puritan.com/joint-support...apsules-011893

My mom uses them to get her Glucosamine Chondroitin, and there prices are great! You can even get MSM with Glucosamine Chondroitin added here.

I take Biotin and haven't noticed any breakouts (other than usual) and I was using the MSM + Glucosamine Chon. for a while. I don't know if my hair was growing faster, but I didn't notice any side effects.
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You can get it here for what I think is a good cost: http://www.puritan.com/joint-support...apsules-011893

My mom uses them to get her Glucosamine Chondroitin, and there prices are great! You can even get MSM with Glucosamine Chondroitin added here.

I take Biotin and haven't noticed any breakouts (other than usual) and I was using the MSM + Glucosamine Chon. for a while. I don't know if my hair was growing faster, but I didn't notice any side effects.
Originally Posted by QuirkyYogini
QuirkyYogini that's where I get my supplements from Puritan Pride,you're right about the great prices plus,they give you free bottles too that's why I order from them.Thanks for putting up the link.
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I just checked out the label on the Puritan's Pride website and was all excited to give it a try - then I read the warning to avoid taking if you have a history of kidney stones. That's me! I'm just dying for my hair to be long again!!! I bought some Biotin tablets, now I juwst need to remember to actually take them. If only I didn't have to rush in the morning....
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I'd like to take biotin supplements, but I'm trying to gauge how much faster my hair will grow. Like an inch a month? I have no idea.
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You need to also watch for allergies. Some MSM complex supplements may have shellfish in them.
Originally Posted by Speckla
Uh oh! I'm allergic to that! Darn it! lol
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You need to also watch for allergies. Some MSM complex supplements may have shellfish in them.
Originally Posted by Speckla
Uh oh! I'm allergic to that! Darn it! lol
Originally Posted by Miyani
Read bottles and ask at the pharmacy not all have it just some do.
Ok that's good! I can't even *eat* marinara sauce b/c it has shellfish in it lol

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