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GirlWithUkulele 04-25-2010 10:05 PM

Hair colour discrimination, too!
 
Not technically "curl-bashing," but it's still discrimination towards someone's hair, and making them feel insecure just for looking a certain way. And this poor girl is only twelve! I've personally always wanted her hair colour. What really gets me, though, is the fact that kids are doing this. These weren't high schoolers, but sixth- or seventh-graders. :-(

Anyone ever experienced this kind of thing?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0lx1CMMVp

MirCurls 04-25-2010 10:12 PM

I don't get it, never have, but then I think red hair is amazing and always did. I went to a Catholic school and a few of the nuns were Irish and had red hair and in my neighborhood of Latinos and blacks, I rarely saw red hair and thought it was BEAUTIFUL. So much so, that I used to regularly have crushes on red-haired boys with freckles. :D

I still find red hair lovely and totally don't get the weirdness of bullies, other than the fact that those prone to bullying will find a reason. Red hair. Fat. Too skinny. Too short. Too tall. Kinky hair/curly hair. Hammer toes. Zits. Stuttering. Or no reason at all (as we've seen with some kids bullied almost for the pure sake of bullying.)

Bullies just like to find the "odd man" or "odd girl" out (and red hair is rare) in order to find soemone to pick on to feel superior. Hate, hate, hate bullies.

And I hope she dyes her hair bright red and tells them to F themselves. :D

wavyblonde 04-26-2010 12:31 AM

I truly don't understand why red hair is so offensive to so many in the UK. What is the reasoning behind it? I hate to sound ignorant, but I just don't understand why "gingers" would be persecuted.

I, too, always adored red hair. I went red myself for a while, but just feel more like myself as a blonde. I kinda have a thing for redheaded guys, too.

moodydove 04-26-2010 12:44 AM

Wtf is this? I never understood ginger bashing. Red hair is so gorgeous! I guess people are always gonna find someone to put down...since sometimes, the ability to administer punishment gives insecure people something to hold on to. And yea, I love me some redheaded guys. :)

Liliput 04-26-2010 04:36 AM

For some reason it is not ok to be a natural redhead in the UK, as they are called ginger and teased. To me this is ridiculous as I think red hair is gorgeous!!!! I think it is funny that many people get abused for being "ginger" but hair dye in all shades of sell like hot cakes. It makes it looks as if it is all right to be a fake redhead but not a natural one...GO FIGURE.

crwritt 04-26-2010 07:25 AM

My brother is a redhead and a skilled carpenter. An older woman called him to estimate a job at her home, someone she knew had recommended him. When he got there, she wouldn't let him in, and told him to leave, since she doesn't trust redhaired people.
I have many redheads in my family, including my own kids, and that was the first and only time I had heard of something like this happening. We live in eastern US, so maybe there isn't the bizarre cultural antimosity towards redheads that there is is Britian?

redcelticcurls 04-26-2010 11:47 AM

I, too, have wondered why there is so much ginger bashing in the UK. I don't get it.

I pay good money to have red hair.

HipsterSoul 04-26-2010 01:04 PM

What?!! Red hair is great! I actually want to dye my hair red this summer.

GirlWithUkulele 04-26-2010 04:27 PM

I don't get it, either. The 'death threats' part really creeped me out. And she has gorgeous hair! I'll never understand why kids are so mean.

redcelticcurls 04-26-2010 04:34 PM

What is a yob?

crwritt 04-26-2010 04:45 PM

Yobbo or yob is a slang term for an uncouth or thuggish working-class person. The word derives from a back slang reading of the word "boy" (boy or boyo reversed becomes yob or — slightly modified — yobbo).

chelseatom_tom 04-26-2010 05:54 PM

What? This is ridiculous!
I can't really even get my head around it.
Obviously, red hair has a different image in the UK. Honestly, the guy that I like at school has the reddest hair I've ever seen.
I did hear, though, that 12 and 13 year-old-girls are among the meanest in the population. Living proof?

xodevin 04-26-2010 07:58 PM

I almost cried at this! It's just plain awful, and I'm in 8th grade myself. God, I love red hair too. I would never dye my hair, but I've always wished for gorgeous red or auburn locks! I mean... Just wow.

Here in the US there was that 'Kick a Ginger Day'. It was funny at first but soon turned dumb, and at least it didn't get too out of hand.

People should not be threatened because of their hair colors! And that school is completely idiotic for not expelling the students, or sending them to some sort of juvenille delinquents school! I really hope this article continues to give them awful publicity for a while. And the ending... Why would she want to come back to that sort of torture?!!

Despicable. However, I think in high school some people can get a lot more mature (at least I hope so, looking at some of the immature people in my grade..), so it's sadly pretty common for there to be bullies in those grades. Ugh.

*Marah* 04-27-2010 10:11 AM

From what I read.. in ancient ethnic groups specifically European ethnic groups.. red hair was some sort of signal of having a wild temperment, filled with anger and violence. The women are supposed to be basically... (no offense anyone) promiscuious home wrecking types. Basically, slutty.

It's supposed have come about because of the fact that many Celts had red hair and they were known for their violence and hostile temperments. Given the Scots descend from them and many have red hair as well as many Irish.. it just spread in Europe these stereotypes about red hair.

And people with red hair get labeled in a negative way in those countries where those people originated. Hence the UK issues.

I think we've all heard the phrase, "Fiesty red-head" before. It comes from those sorts of sagas, legends, and myths.

gncurrier 04-28-2010 05:26 AM

As a red-head, this upsets me. I was never teased specifically for my hair, but I think it was a huge reason why I got teased. I didn't like it for along time, but now the only thing I do with it is occaisionally dye it darker red.

curlypearl 04-28-2010 11:33 AM

This is horrifying!

I totally don't get it. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

I love red hair and have tried to dye mine so it will be a pretty red, but it gets brassy so I've given up.

This bullying is crazy.

ninja dog 04-28-2010 11:41 AM

Okay, as some may recall, I take slurs, slanders, and so-called "explanations" as to why redheads are: different; tormented; obsessed about; etc. VERY personally.

Basically, in my view, if you're not a redhead, or have something nice to say about redheads, then SAY NOTHING, please.

I don't care about Celtic tradition, moronic stereotypes about fiery redheads, or how the teasing gets better as girls mature.

This is bullisht bullying, just like any other kind. It's not funny, it's not fair, and I'm f-ing sick of it.

*Marah* 04-28-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja dog (Post 1333181)
Okay, as some may recall, I take slurs, slanders, and so-called "explanations" as to why redheads are: different; tormented; obsessed about; etc. VERY personally.

Basically, in my view, if you're not a redhead, or have something nice to say about redheads, then SAY NOTHING, please.

I don't care about Celtic tradition, moronic stereotypes about fiery redheads, or how the teasing gets better as girls mature.

This is bullisht bullying, just like any other kind. It's not funny, it's not fair, and I'm f-ing sick of it.

Well no, I don't recall it. I probably wasn't even here when you made your issue with red head discrimination known.

Furthermore, What I said was not directed to you. I can understand you getting upset but I hope it's not directed toward me because you weren't even a thought in my mind when I posted what I did.

I was simply giving the reason as far as "traditions" are concerned as to why red hair gets discriminated against.. particularly in the UK. I didn't give my personal opinion about red hair one way or the other.

As you know I am black and Jewish so I do understand the concept of discimination well. Considering both my people experienced enslavements, a holocaust, and persecution just about everywhere they went. And still get discriminated against today in a bevy of ways.

And yes.. I know you are "half" Jewish.

curlylaura 04-28-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls (Post 1330771)
I, too, have wondered why there is so much ginger bashing in the UK. I don't get it.

I live in the UK and have never understood the red hair hatred.

It may have originated from some form of ancient discrimination but now it's just because people want to feel better than someone else.

I love red hair. I want to dye mine red but my skin and eyebrows will look whack next to it.

Curls=Beauty 04-28-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja dog (Post 1333181)
Okay, as some may recall, I take slurs, slanders, and so-called "explanations" as to why redheads are: different; tormented; obsessed about; etc. VERY personally.

Basically, in my view, if you're not a redhead, or have something nice to say about redheads, then SAY NOTHING, please.

I don't care about Celtic tradition, moronic stereotypes about fiery redheads, or how the teasing gets better as girls mature.

This is bullisht bullying, just like any other kind. It's not funny, it's not fair, and I'm f-ing sick of it.


Oh please. No one was saying anything mean or trying to justify ANYTHING. Marah Mizrahi was explaining where the reasons stemmed from.

That doesn't make the bullying right, obviously.

Personally, I love red hair and think it is gorgeous.
Teasing and bullying because of it is ridiculous and whoever does it must be very insecure about themselves.


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