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Old 01-31-2013, 02:55 PM   #241
 
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I am Haitian too. Your friend has a good point. I love my Haitian, Dominican friends and everyone else.
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For me Hispanics can be white, Black or Indian... But I feel that many Hispanics shy away from thinking of themselves as Blacks (i.e. Dominicans).
Many shy away from thinking of themselves as (part) Asian too, even though many are Mestizos. Then again, I know a lot of ppl who have my racial admixture that do the same thing - shy away from one side or the other.
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I am Haitian too. Your friend has a good point. I love my Haitian, Dominican friends and everyone else.
Haiti represent whoot woot! Lol. Sak pase?!

Yea im not even going to lie i had a hard time excepting their ways especially towards us. But this guy im talking about makes up for all of the ignorance lol. He taught me a good lesson


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I am Haitian too. Your friend has a good point. I love my Haitian, Dominican friends and everyone else.
Haiti represent whoot woot! Lol. Sak pase?!

Yea im not even going to lie i had a hard time excepting their ways especially towards us. But this guy im talking about makes up for all of the ignorance lol. He taught me a good lesson


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Helloooo neighbors! Haha

By the way I'm glad you guys have people that show you contrary...it's no lie that Dominicans belittle Haitians whenever possible. I can't explain if it's historical (disdain coming from when D.R was ruled by Haiti) or racial (because we're sooo white you know, lol) or what but...it's a problem and a damned shame.

I can't wait until I go back to D.R (Dec 2013) and rock my natural! I'm still transitioning but I pray I'll be able to get a good, big ol' afro if I disrupt my pattern...my Dominican family might just put me on the next boat straight to Africa but I'll risk it to make my statement! Lol
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I am Haitian too. Your friend has a good point. I love my Haitian, Dominican friends and everyone else.
Haiti represent whoot woot! Lol. Sak pase?!

Yea im not even going to lie i had a hard time excepting their ways especially towards us. But this guy im talking about makes up for all of the ignorance lol. He taught me a good lesson


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Helloooo neighbors! Haha

By the way I'm glad you guys have people that show you contrary...it's no lie that Dominicans belittle Haitians whenever possible. I can't explain if it's historical (disdain coming from when D.R was ruled by Haiti) or racial (because we're sooo white you know, lol) or what but...it's a problem and a damned shame.

I can't wait until I go back to D.R (Dec 2013) and rock my natural! I'm still transitioning but I pray I'll be able to get a good, big ol' afro if I disrupt my pattern...my Dominican family might just put me on the next boat straight to Africa but I'll risk it to make my statement! Lol
ahaha you are hilarious! Sometimes you just gotta laugh @ ignorance. I love it!
Hey you have to let us know your family reaction to your hair.



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Old 02-01-2013, 11:31 AM   #246
 
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Dee Nature and Rizosmios!
Mren en Fom (I am fine)!
Rizosmios, q chula eres (u are fun)!

I have lived 3 years in the DR and actually graduated from Colegio Santo Domingo.

Good luck LOL when u go for Christmas. It is not just the DR where you might received stares and "why aren't u relaxing?". In Haiti too! I have many friends who have asked me, so issues of race and hair are everywhere,

Happy to meet a compatriot (DeeNat) and a Neighboor (Rizos)!
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Dee Nature and Rizosmios!
Mren en Fom (I am fine)!
Rizosmios, q chula eres (u are fun)!
So so cute. Hispaniola stand up!

I'm intrigued by Creole, I speak a some French but Creole is a different animal. I can't catch a thing when it's spoken but I love to see it written! Sak pase reminds me of qu'est-ce qui se passe and mren en fom seems like je suis en forme?

I'm not surprised that relaxing is also the norm in Haiti at all.
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Rizosmios, for most Haitians Creole is easier. I understand it but have a hard time reading it. 0)
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Ladies i read and write kreol. I always wanted to speak spanish.

@rmc2 i have never been questioned abt my natural hair,in fact, when i visit haiti they want all tips on how to go natural especially when i show them b4 and after pix. i see lots of naturals there.

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Full african (east). Im somali but my grandmas ethiopian.. Wow! I find this post really interesting.. Some cool mixtures here!
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Full african (east). Im somali but my grandmas ethiopian.. Wow! I find this post really interesting.. Some cool mixtures here!
SOMALI stand up!! my best friend is ethiopian and my childhood friend (abdi) is somalian. I LOVE IT!


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Hi Dee! Thanks for your reply. Nice to meet a fellow Haitian American.
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Hi Dee! Thanks for your reply. Nice to meet a fellow Haitian American.
Achanté rmc2 u should post profile pic

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Old 02-05-2013, 11:04 AM   #254
 
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Hi dee!
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Are you mixed?-imageuploadedbycurltalk1360087357.568621.jpgAre you mixed?-imageuploadedbycurltalk1360087380.420984.jpgAre you mixed?-imageuploadedbycurltalk1360087401.686613.jpg
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Wow I thought i was the only one who goes through this(kind of) . My mom is from Kenya and my dad is from ivory coast. My hair is very soft brown 4b hair and I do LOTS of twists outs and I get asked are you mixed with any other race -.- when I say no they grab my head and ask if its a weave 0.o thats when I walk away and say have a nice day.....

I hate when people assumed your "mixed" because of how your hair looks and technically everyones mixed because your mom and dad are from different places or maybe your grandparents are....
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I'm gonna start asking "Do I get a prize if I am?"

But as far as offensive I'm never offended right off. After all my family is mixed, but it's when you get the comments that imply that there's something wrong with being just African decent. Like you're better because you have "something else in you."

That's when I start getting pissed off.


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Old 02-06-2013, 04:17 PM   #257
 
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For the most part i say im just Black, but people insist im mixed...which technically i am, but only by my ancestry. But aren't we all??

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Do you live in the US? I have come to the conclusion that perceptions about who is black and who is not has a lot do with culture. myself and family are light and freckled. Some have blue or hazel eyes, and some of my mom's siblings could almost pass, but we've always considered ourselves black without question. Yes we know we're Scot-Irish, Choctaw and African descent but my last white ancestor died right after the CW. The plantation was a long time ago. But when I talk my friends who are from Latin America, they all argue me down insisting I'm not black. I think the difference is in the US, in order to make Jim Crow work, whites supremicists made it if you are even a little black then you're black aka one drop rule. In Latin America it seems the general feeling is if you are even a little anything other than black then you are not black. Not saying everyone thinks this way but that has been my experience. My dad couldn't believe it when I told him people were telling me I'm not black. Not just Latin America. I saw a lady on YT who looks like me who said she went to Namibia and they told her she wasn't black. She was hurt because she was expecting this "return to the motherland experience."
I think the big problem with stereotyping of how "mixed" people look or even what kind of hair they have is that genetics can be tricky. So someone who has a parent of a different race may not look the stereotype while someone with an ancestor from 200 years ago does.

According to Dr. Henry Gates
58 percent of African Americans have at least 12.5 percent European ancestry (equivalent of one great-grandparent);
19.6 percent of African Americans have at least 25 percent European ancestry (equivalent of one grandparent);
1 percent of African Americans have at least 50 percent European ancestry (equivalent of one parent); and
5 percent of African Americans have at least 12.5 percent Native American ancestry (equivalent to one great-grandparent).
But then, this is the problem for me. People do not accept the diversity of biracial people. My Father is white, my Mother black and I most definitely I.D as biracial, not black or white. Yet, because I have full lips, a button nose and my skin is a little more tanned than some other mixed people, people INSIST I am black, or that I shouldn't 'bother' I.D as mixed because I look black. As it bothers black people to be told they're mixed or must be mixed, it bothers me to be told I must ID as black because I 'look' black. I think I clearly look mixed. I don't feel black, and biracial people are not all very fair with golden-brown hair and green eyes. This is just my take on it, though, as a biracial person. It's made me insecure. I am what I am, and I am sick of people trying to shove me in a box I don't belong to.
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See but I think the experience of being "mixed" is especially unique and "issue-laden" for those of us who were born into and brought up participating in two or three distinct cultures.

Society will expect such people to adopt an identity affiliated w/a single culture - they will try and fit you neatly into a particular box. And if you come from a bi or multi-cultural family but look racially ambiguous, this kind of thing happens: I had an Italian boyfriend as a teenager and we were madly in love. His mother opened her house to me and we got along just fine. Until. This one day his mother came to my house and met my (Afro-Caribbean) mother for the first time and she got all scared.

Suddenly she was playing match-maker, trying to find her son a new girlfriend. She was quite open about it. Before too long he broke up w/me. We were getting along great but he told me he'd fallen out of love, but I knew that wasn't true because as he said it, he was absolutely sobbing like someone had just killed his favorite pet. If both my parents had looked "mixed" or one was white and one was mixed (as she seemingly expected), that lady might not have been such a thorn in my ass. So I do think it matters what kind of "mixed" you are. Nor is everybody mixed. But yeah, many of us are.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:21 AM   #259
 
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:05 PM   #260
 
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Gracias Rizosmios! What products do you use yourself? Sorry if this is not really related to the subject matter. 0)
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