nikkimw

I think the reason I have to use so many different steps is because I have only recently stopped flat ironing my hair. I used to wear it curly all the time ... and all i used to do was put in be curly and then on day two or day three use the phomollient for neatening up my hair and it worked great. Then I had a majorly bad hair cut and that's when I started straightening. So, I think I put in various different things to make it look good because it's still damaged. I pretty much had to do the same with Sunsilk and Dove gels that I tried. So, my advice would be if you want to try Aveda, go ahead, because if you buy it at a salon, they will take back anything you don't like. If you're happy with HE then stick to it =)

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wowohwow

So I tried the CG way today, and cowashed my hair..dreadful! =( It just has limp waves =( I've never tried a gel, only mousse..what do you think? Would switching over to a gel make it better?

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boarderhopper

um wowohwow not be nosey but are you kind of attracted to nikki?

wowohwow

i'm a girl.. O.o nikki has really pretty hair though

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AngularScience

Hehe, the bolded part is funny, mainly because the reason it's so similar to caucasian hair is because Indians are caucasian (well, mostly).

I think it's funny that so many people think Indians don't have curly hair because of it. Caucasians have curls, so Indians, being causcasian, must have some curly haired people. Curls are dominant, and over half the world's population has curls/waves. Why would Indians be any different?

Anyway, many people donate hair to the temples not only as children, but as adults, too. This is because long hair is a traditional form of beauty, so sacrificing it to the Gods is considered a very selfless thing. We are a hair-obsessed culture, for sure.

craaackle

OMG! I have curly hair and am Indian!! My dad's side has curly hair so I get it from them...my mom is so annoying always telling me to comb my hair saying I have knots etc when my hair is just fine. I love my curly hair. I remember once instead of trying to deal with my curly hair they just took me to get my hair cut, funny thing is it got CURLIER ....I honestly love my curly hair but as I said it's really hurtful when your own mother tells you it looks bad. I think it looks beautiful and that's all that matters, really.

Ela234

I'm African American, and I used to relax my hair. I've also known Hispanics that get relaxers but this is the first time I've ever heard of Indians relaxing their hair. I guess there's a first for everything...Of course, I don't know very much about Indian culture either. Which is really why this thread caught my eye in the first place.

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AngularScience

That's the first time I've heard of Indians relaxing their hair, too. And I'm Indian, living in areas of high concentrations of Indians. Most people do flat iron, I'll admit, and some get TR, but that's rare. I've never heard of anyone relaxing it until this thread. Maybe it's popular in certain areas with lots of people with ethnic hair, and it came in with that?

multicultcurly

Not being snarky, but Thermal Relaxing is relaxing. It's just not a relaxer used often by African Americans or Afro Latinas.

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Grrrbehave

Maybe it's just where I live? But then even Indians from India relax their hair, although it's less from the pressure to conform, rather a change of scenery, so to speak. The general idea I get from women around me is that curly hair is either not professional, or not fashionable.

s.s.blackorchid

I am from Kerala, India, and many of my relatives and friends from there have curly hair (and most of them flat iron it). I myself have thick, curly hair (3a/b) and some of my relatives think I look "too wild". Most Indians I know have wavy hair, some curly (rarely stick straight) and it's usuallythicker and coarser than Caucasian hair.

liron

In Trinidad where about 40% of the population is Indian (primarily from the south), many of those with curly or wavy hair put so kind of relaxer in it. My aunt (also Indian) has an Indian hair car salon in St James in Port of Spain and told me 80% of her Indian clientele straightens their hair! She has straight hair though, but she puts mild relaxer in my dougla cousins hair. Oddly none of the dougla I know minus that cousin do relaxer.

Dougla is the term for people who are half creole or half black and half Indian in Trinidad and Guyana.

notcurler

OK, here is my say in this interesting thread I just had to comment.
Well, Im south indian and IM from Kerala. I dont have "curly" hair but it is somewat thick and is wavy. I know a lot of people straighten their hair this day and age, any race white, black, asian or whatever...so it is normal, but that doesnt make it good for your hair. Thats the problem, no one knows how to properly take care of hair anymore, if ur hair is frizzy, dry,dull, and has split ends u are probably doing something wrong. Also its very sad for girls who grow up disliking thier hair, or anything else, it affects thier self-esstem so much. They have to realize perfect is not real. If I ever see a person with perfectly stairght and shiny hair most likely they werent born with hair like that. I also do agree that many indians crave for that bollywood hair. I always wanted that hair but its so hard, I would have to spend at least 2 hrs trying to straighten all of my hair cause its so thick, and I decided who cares honestly I perfer hair with volume. Some indians I know have hair like african americans so who does that consider us causasian. In south indian girls tend have long hair when u go up north its mostly cropped and starightened. Anyways my point is just deal with your hair, u know, u were born with what u have so embrace it. I wish indians can start accepting curly hair, but our curlture being so focused on our hair, lol. i doubt it. Still go for it, if u have a afro be proud of it and at least one day in ur life were out in public

Melanie_Linn

i got to say i love my 3c/4a curls. not sure what my cousins in mumbai would think. but i've never met them before so it doesnt matter. On the other hand i'll freak if my hair does what it did this summer when i eventually visit them.

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Hakim Nuraldin

Not trying to be funny, but are you really serious? Non of the Indian people I know would call themselves a Caucasian which is a white person. Many Indians I have met are even darker than me, so how does that make them white? Not trying to start a race thing here, but I just thought that was a strange thing to say.

Alexjoujou

" Not trying to be funny, but are you really serious? Non of the Indian people I know would call themselves a Caucasian which is a white person. Many Indians I have met are even darker than me, so how does that make them white? Not trying to start a race thing here, but I just thought that was a strange thing to say.[/quote]

Actually Caucasian does not necessarily mean white. According to many dictionaries it is:

Anthropology Of or being a human racial classification distinguished especially by very light to brown skin pigmentation and straight to wavy or curly hair, and including peoples indigenous to Europe, northern Africa, western Asia, and India.


I thought that too (caucasian = white I meant)--on a totally non related issue since my kids are part Egyptian with Sudanese and I was told I have to mark Caucasian on forms. My kids are pretty fair skinned so most would consider them white.

I looked online and according to USA census stuff Sudan is considered North Africa and those folks should be marking caucasian. I'll have to remember to tell that to my friends from the Sudan --dumbest thing I ever heard. My ex's family from the Sudan is very dark--darker than many of my African-American friends! I'm sure they'll appreciate that the government considers them caucasian!

p.s. love the meaning of your avatar!

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Sweet_dreams11

I'm partially of Indian descent, and I have curly hair too. My mother is almost completely of Indian descent, and she also has wavy/curly hair. I don't think it's something to be ashamed of, but sadly I've seen a few Indian girls go so far as to relax their hair so they could have straighter hair.

werenumber2

A few weeks ago, I saw an Indian woman walking in a supermarket parking lot and her hair was almost as curly as mine. That's the first time I've ever encountered an Indian with hair THAT curly but, living in a city with a huge Indian population, I've noticed most Indians here have hair with some kind of curl or wave to it. My former co-worker from Mumbai has 3a curls that she blow-dries straight.

I only see that glossy, jet black, SUPER STRAIGHT look on Bollywood celebrities and I've been told that most of them either flat iron their hair or chemically treat it to get that look.

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anonymous_29030

I am so glad someone else has mentioned getting breakouts from hair products. I have very sensitive skin which seems to become irritated by oily hair products which my hair apparently needs? Still trying to work this one out according t my hair texture/needs... Anyhoo, all the Indian women I have known pride themselves on having straight hair however they happen to come by it. Good on you for loving your curls!

anonymous_29030

Lived in South Korea and Indonesia for 1 year, respectively. People in both countries chemically relax their hair. Specifically, the supermarket shelves in Indonesia (and TV commercials) are filled with chemical hair straighteners and bleaching creams (many of these products supplied by western MNCs). I find the suggestion about 'Indians not relaxing their hair unless they've possibly had contact with "ethnic" communities that relax' very hard to believe. Furthermore, last I checked Indians counted as "ethnic".