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Old 02-18-2010, 09:12 AM   #81
 
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I hope I don't sound ignorant. But I know a lot of hair extension companies sell so called "indian hair" and sometimes it is really curlyl, and sometimes even like a 3c/4a curly. It this because the women with curly hair tend to be more willing to donate? Or are we all being fooled thinking that Remy Hair is really 100% virgin indian hair, but it's really just processed Korean hair?

Just curious, b/c before becoming natural I used to wear a lot of weaves/extensions and I know "indian hair" or Remy hair was the best quality one could buy. Thanks
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I'm another curly-haired Indian!

Many Indian women just don't like their curly hair because they're trying to strive for the unattainable bollywood look: fair skinned, fair eyed, and stick-straight, long hair.

It's so self-hating it's sick.

Totally agreement.

They just brush it until it poofs and then dunk it in oil, and then braid it.

Also, I am loving these beautiful Bollywood actresses with these gorgeous curls!
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I love Indira Varma. She almost always wears her hair curly!
She played Maya in Kama Sutra. Sarita Choudhury, also in the same movie
omg, I totally loved her in Kama Sutra!!!!
lurv her hair!
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interesting thread... I used to watch this show out here called Showbiz India (well it used to be called that) and I noticed the women on there always have straight or minimally curly hair. I also noticed they were all light skinned. It pissed me off pretty bad when I finally realized this. Then I remember when I was in college there was this Indian girl who was like... so amazingly pretty and she kept sayin she wasn't attractive because she was dark. I'm black and she was darker than me. I could never figure out why she thought her skin was unattractive. She was so pretty. she talked about how her mom tried to lighten her skin when she was a teen and it didn't work.

So anyway Now I boycott showbiz india.
Having dark skin and seeing it as a problem isn't just an African-American or "black" thing. I put black in quotations because in places outside of America black doesn't solely mean of African descent. Having medium dark brown to black skin to my knowledge is seen as a negative to many in India. It makes sense since most of the Miss Indias and Bollywood actresses have slightly tan to white skin. And skin lightening is fairly common in certain parts of India.
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I hope I don't sound ignorant. But I know a lot of hair extension companies sell so called "indian hair" and sometimes it is really curlyl, and sometimes even like a 3c/4a curly. It this because the women with curly hair tend to be more willing to donate? Or are we all being fooled thinking that Remy Hair is really 100% virgin indian hair, but it's really just processed Korean hair?

Just curious, b/c before becoming natural I used to wear a lot of weaves/extensions and I know "indian hair" or Remy hair was the best quality one could buy. Thanks
I am not a weave expert, but from what I understand, the hair is processed in order to change the color of the hair (blonde, light brown, etc.). However, there are many hair textures in India, including kinky curly.
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Wow! And I thought I was the only one....
My mom and older brothers hate their curly hair. All my cousins have long beautiful straight hair and I have struggled all my life with curly hair. Only because care for curly hair in India usually means trying to oil and comb it through until its really frizzy and dull. So went through childhood and adolescence in tight pigtails, looking like well, a pig....
After moving to the US, I discovered relaxers and abused them until my hair started showing the wear and tear. Then mom got breast cancer and went through chemo.When her hair started to grow, I noticed how beautiful her curly hair really was. She hates it still, but I decided to grow out my curly hair in December and chopped off the damaged hair. My hair is a lot healthier, but is agonizingly slow to grow. Taking multivitamins, deep conditioning, avoiding the salon and praying.
I was brave this week and postponed my hair cut to April. It will be three months between cuts at that point, but since my hair is healthier and doesn't have split ends, I think I can push it that long. It's the messiness that I have to deal with. Hairbands have been really useful!!
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Kangana Ranaut is another bollywood actress with beautiful curls.
She is beautiful but I hate that she's wearing blue contacts. Women need to love themselves, brown eyed and curly and all!
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Kangana Ranaut is another bollywood actress with beautiful curls.
She is beautiful but I hate that she's wearing blue contacts. Women need to love themselves, brown eyed and curly and all!
All of the pictures that I see of her online show her with blue eyes. Are you sure that isn't her natural eye color? After all, she looks to be of mostly European ancestry or ancestry that includes white skin and blue eyes. Maybe if her skin was medium dark brown to black and she had blue eyes, then I'd find it fake-looking, but then again, she could be wearing contacts.
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Kangana Ranaut is another bollywood actress with beautiful curls.
She is beautiful but I hate that she's wearing blue contacts. Women need to love themselves, brown eyed and curly and all!
All of the pictures that I see of her online show her with blue eyes. Are you sure that isn't her natural eye color? After all, she looks to be of mostly European ancestry or ancestry that includes white skin and blue eyes. Maybe if her skin was medium dark brown to black and she had blue eyes, then I'd find it fake-looking, but then again, she could be wearing contacts.


Here she has brown eyes. I've found several pictures of her with brown eyes. It's common for Indian women to wear blue contacts. My sister-in-law does sometimes and she has such beautiful brown eyes.
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omg--you know I didn't even notice her eyes were blue in that picture?

These women are trying to keep up with competing for an unrealistic standard of beauty. I feel sorry for them.

At some point in your life you have to decide the level of integrity you are willing to live with and what you're willing to give up, I can't hate....however....

My sister wears green contacts, colors her hair, changes the pronunciation of her given name (Idhalia---yes, very ethnic, pronounced phonetically 'eye-dale-ya') pronounces our maiden name with a deliberate Italian accent, changes her diction as well as anything else she can do to distance herself from our shared heritage

Quite sad actually. It's just cultural self disdain. She also was very into career choices that hinged on her appearance (we live in NY, she's now in Fla). I chose a different path and so I was allowed the luxury of enjoying and even playing up my culture not sticking too hard to any one standard of beauty....dusky vs wheaten, blue/green vs brown, curly vs straight... quite sad really.
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interesting thread... I used to watch this show out here called Showbiz India (well it used to be called that) and I noticed the women on there always have straight or minimally curly hair. I also noticed they were all light skinned. It pissed me off pretty bad when I finally realized this. Then I remember when I was in college there was this Indian girl who was like... so amazingly pretty and she kept sayin she wasn't attractive because she was dark. I'm black and she was darker than me. I could never figure out why she thought her skin was unattractive. She was so pretty. she talked about how her mom tried to lighten her skin when she was a teen and it didn't work.

So anyway Now I boycott showbiz india.
Having dark skin and seeing it as a problem isn't just an African-American or "black" thing. I put black in quotations because in places outside of America black doesn't solely mean of African descent. Having medium dark brown to black skin to my knowledge is seen as a negative to many in India. It makes sense since most of the Miss Indias and Bollywood actresses have slightly tan to white skin. And skin lightening is fairly common in certain parts of India.
I know and it makes me very angry. I even read an article where the practice and culture of bleaching was defended and they were attacking the criticism as a "western" thing. Basically they were trying to flip it like Demonizing skin bleaching was because westerners don't understand Indian Culture and was trying to impose their values on Indian Culture.
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I'm Indian myself and I've personally seen people who try to bleach their skin and others who make their hair look all poofy. I guess most are like that but definitely not all.

I am South Indian but I have very fair skin (with a yellow undertone) much like Chinese skin. My family members have the same skin, as do most of my relatives. But a lot of my Indian friends and the cousins who have tan skin all make fun of me for my skin.

And as for my curly hair, the Indians I know all tell me they wish their hair was like mine (even though it can get frizzy sometimes), and some of them try to perm it.
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Hi, I have a question to ask.

I am really sad to hear that lighter skin is considered more 'beautiful' in India. Is it because of a lingering British effect, or something else?
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In Trinidad where about 40% of the population is Indian (primarily from the south), many of those with curly or wavy hair put so kind of relaxer in it. My aunt (also Indian) has an Indian hair car salon in St James in Port of Spain and told me 80% of her Indian clientele straightens their hair! She has straight hair though, but she puts mild relaxer in my dougla cousins hair. Oddly none of the dougla I know minus that cousin do relaxer.

Dougla is the term for people who are half creole or half black and half Indian in Trinidad and Guyana.
That is funny because Im from Surinam a country next to French Guyana and above Brasil and we also use that term but there is a slight diffirence we say "Dogla"
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I used to play tennis with a family of Indian girls, all with hair straighter and thicker than the one before! Most girls from similar ethnic backrounds I've met have all had staight, or slightly textured wavy hair.
And like you said to get it to curl they'd saturate their hair with product to take out all that natural poof!
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Hi, I have a question to ask.

I am really sad to hear that lighter skin is considered more 'beautiful' in India. Is it because of a lingering British effect, or something else?
No...it's more that people with darker skin spend more time in the sun, aka farmers. People with lighter skin spend more time indoors, with desk jobs that are higher paying and "higher class."

That's where that comes from :\
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Hello ladies!
I am so glad I found this thread. I am Indian as well and I am trying to go CG. I have been reading and researching about curly hair care and I was on the verge of going mad. Then I decided to write on this thread to seek suggestions on finding the right products. My hair is poofy and frizzy all the time! I would love to have soft touchable curls. Any tips on finding the right products? I am currently using Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut Conditioner as co-wash and HE totally twisted conditioner. I use Infusium 23 leave - in and Paul Mitchell leave - in moisturizer. Then I finish with FX silk drops. I use a wide comb after my hair is completely dry. There are so many CG products out there and I am not able to zero in one any one. Please help!

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My hair is poofy and frizzy all the time! I would love to have soft touchable curls. Any tips on finding the right products? I am currently using Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut Conditioner as co-wash and HE totally twisted conditioner. I use Infusium 23 leave - in and Paul Mitchell leave - in moisturizer. Then I finish with FX silk drops. I use a wide comb after my hair is completely dry. There are so many CG products out there and I am not able to zero in one any one. Please help!
Hmm. What kind of curl, porosity, texture, and thickness of hair do you have?

Also, are you sure all of the products you use are CG?
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I am so glad I found this thread. I am Indian as well and I am trying to go CG. I have been reading and researching about curly hair care and I was on the verge of going mad. Then I decided to write on this thread to seek suggestions on finding the right products. My hair is poofy and frizzy all the time! I would love to have soft touchable curls. Any tips on finding the right products? I am currently using Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut Conditioner as co-wash and HE totally twisted conditioner. I use Infusium 23 leave - in and Paul Mitchell leave - in moisturizer. Then I finish with FX silk drops. I use a wide comb after my hair is completely dry. There are so many CG products out there and I am not able to zero in one any one. Please help!
the infusium and HE conditioner are not CG. i'm not sure about the paul mitchell or FX, so double check those.

part of the reason you might be having so much frizz is because you're combing your hair out after it's dry. the only time i use a comb is in the shower, after i put conditioner in my hair. try this and see if it helps at all.

and don't give up! your hair needs time to adjust to the change, so i would say to give it at least 2 weeks. (my hair actually took a little longer than that to get acclimated.)

if you have any more questions, feel free to ask. the search option on the top of the page was also a lifesaver for me. i remember how confused i was when i first started reading about the CG method, so i understand it can be difficult.
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the infusium and HE conditioner are not CG. i'm not sure about the paul mitchell or FX, so double check those.
Oh dear! I checked the ingredients, and the Paul Mitchell and FX are not CG either
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