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Old 04-05-2014, 08:03 AM   #1
 
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I didn't see this with a search and think people should see it. The regulation should at least be looked at. Granted, you join a branch of the services you know there are regulations but this does seem (rather like the beard restrictions for Sikhs) to be overly burdensome. At any rate, just putting it out there in case anyone is interested.

Black Female Soldiers Criticize Army's New Hairstyle Rules As Racially Biased
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I agree that these rules are racially biased and are overly burdensome for someone with type 4 natural hair.
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And I get that you know you are joining a service but frankly if they want you to have one inch hair for easy maintainence then say it and have EVERYONE do it. However most of these styles would have less maintenance once in place than most.
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I agree that the regulations appear racially biased. When I was working in Food Service we had rules like "hair had to be above the bottom of the collar". Stuff like that. Same rule for everyone and it didn't specify how wide your braid could be. That's ridiculous. There are some people out there with extraordinarily thick hair who would have very wide braids, too.
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And just the option "But wear a weave or a wig then..", which really shows that this is about someone having the opinion about the look of the hair and something negative against classical protective styles for type four hair rather than it being about function.
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It sounds as if the military needs a sensitivity and diversity training.

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Haha. That's exactly when the Army will tell you to toughen up, they don't give a crap about your feelings, and get back in line. It has nothing to do with diversity and everything to do with strict conformity.

I do think they need to apply some common sense. Wear wigs and straighten your hair in battle?? Not going to happen. I honestly do not doubt that some women have been wearing hair against regulation for some time. They did mention some of these styles were restricted in 05. (I know my cousin has had to reprimand some spray tanning ladies recently, which is clearly against regulation/grooming standard. They are not paying attention). I also do not doubt hair has caused a problem with their head gear. Some have much more hair than others. *I can't pull a hat off of most guys heads and wear it myself. There is going to be difference in fit for several women* I understand the width issues when it comes to safety measures, but you can not restrict everything for the enlisted natural population. Might as well shave the women's heads too if you're going to do that.
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Haha. That's exactly when the Army will tell you to toughen up, they don't give a crap about your feelings, and get back in line. It has nothing to do with diversity and everything to do with strict conformity.

I do think they need to apply some common sense. Wear wigs and straighten your hair in battle?? Not going to happen. I honestly do not doubt that some women have been wearing hair against regulation for some time. They did mention some of these styles were restricted in 05. (I know my cousin has had to reprimand some spray tanning ladies recently, which is clearly against regulation/grooming standard. They are not paying attention). I also do not doubt hair has caused a problem with their head gear. Some have much more hair than others. *I can't pull a hat off of most guys heads and wear it myself. There is going to be difference in fit for several women* I understand the width issues when it comes to safety measures, but you can not restrict everything for the enlisted natural population. Might as well shave the women's heads too if you're going to do that.
Well see that's what I'm saying! Then it's across the board. I just don't see how this can be considered anything but targeted.
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I agree that the military is all about strict conformity. It seems as of the military is a difficult place to be feminine and I wouldn't be surprised that if the military could get away with it most women would have the same hairstyles as men. The size of the braids shouldn't matter if the hair is neatly pulled back. And weaves are high maintenance so they don't belong in a ws r zone or the military.

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Weaves, etc. do not belong in a military zone at all! Not even close, and it should not have been a suggestion.

Again, I can see a possible issue with fit of your helmets when it comes to styles. *I keep picturing dreads getting snagged on everything* I could see that for anyone, if everyone was allowed to wear their hair as they wanted. Some men would have issues with that as well. When it comes to that type of head gear (as opposed to caps and dress uniform hats) the only thing you need to he concerned with is proper fit to help prevent head injuries and the ability to pull it on and off quickly while changing into the gear for possible chemical attacks. The style and look of your hair are less of a priority than the function in those situations. The Army is all about preparing you for those situations. That is part of what makes the comment about weaves and wigs so damn stupid (though "to be worn in combat" was not specifically shown in the article).

The Army is hard a hard place to be feminine. People should be very aware of that when they sign up. It's not supposed to be easy on anyone and it is not the place for makeup and fake bakes. It has nothing to do with a beauty standard, but a grooming and functionality standard.
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Haha. That's exactly when the Army will tell you to toughen up, they don't give a crap about your feelings, and get back in line. It has nothing to do with diversity and everything to do with strict conformity.

I do think they need to apply some common sense. Wear wigs and straighten your hair in battle?? Not going to happen. I honestly do not doubt that some women have been wearing hair against regulation for some time. They did mention some of these styles were restricted in 05. (I know my cousin has had to reprimand some spray tanning ladies recently, which is clearly against regulation/grooming standard. They are not paying attention). I also do not doubt hair has caused a problem with their head gear. Some have much more hair than others. *I can't pull a hat off of most guys heads and wear it myself. There is going to be difference in fit for several women* I understand the width issues when it comes to safety measures, but you can not restrict everything for the enlisted natural population. Might as well shave the women's heads too if you're going to do that.
Well see that's what I'm saying! Then it's across the board. I just don't see how this can be considered anything but targeted.
I do think it is targeted, but I am not ruling out functionality actually causing some problems when it comes to a few specific styles (again DL's or specific styles that might make it easier for parts of helmets to snag on braids or locks, etc.). They are going to have to realize a necessity for protective styles but at the same time, I can see actual valid reasons why some would be restricted.
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Then again... I don't know what a lot of helmets look like on the inside now, but my dad had some old ones. Lots of elastic bands and bits of metal or plastic on the inside. Straps, etc. I know they often have headsets fitted through them now. I can't even take off my headset at work without ripping half my hair out. So I am just thinking on the practical, need to do something quick! quick! quick!, side while keeping that in mind.

(The section about headbands was kind of funny. "Has to be plain". Nothing bejeweled, ladies. Camouflage and rhinestones do not mix, unless you're from the south).
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But again for those trains then I think short hair should be mandatory across the board.
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But again for those trains then I think short hair should be mandatory across the board.
I agree with that. I would rather see women with pixies than women without heads.
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Here is the petition if anyone is interested in signing it:https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...tyles/BnR900wx
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