Straight hair is prettier..white people are prettier??

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A woman at my church once told me that I should "adopt a more Christian hairstyle" (ie she wanted me to striaghten my hair)
I thought that was a really weird way of telling me to straighten my hair but it really got me thinking.
Originally Posted by keikok
very strange. and what does relgion has to do with hair?

A woman at my church once told me that I should "adopt a more Christian hairstyle" (ie she wanted me to striaghten my hair)
I thought that was a really weird way of telling me to straighten my hair but it really got me thinking.
Originally Posted by keikok
Why is straight hair a more 'christian' hairstyle?
Originally Posted by curlylaura
good question

YES!!! Straight hair is MUCH better!! When Rihanna first got her haircut she NEVER LOOKED BETTER!!! She is my idol now, and I try to get my hair to be just like hers but my hair kind of does what it wants and I ALWAYS look like I just rolled out of bed. When I try to just blow dry and straighten it, I look like a freaking poodle on steroids!!! When I attempt to use gel, I look like one of the greasers like you see on TV and in old movies like The Outsiders. My hair looks HORRIBLE with curls!! but i can't post any pics though, b/c if you saw it, your eyes would bleed!!!
Originally Posted by horridly_fluffy_poodle
okay . . .

I don't think straight hair is prettier than my curly hair, but I must admit that I do feel trendier when I straighten my hair. Curly hair just doesn't seem to be cutting edge right now and hasn't really been since the 80s.
Originally Posted by erinker74
yeah it is not. lol not straightening my hair tho.

as for all the comments about white people having streight hair - i don't think they do, i think native americans and chinese people (and people from countries around china. not, note, people from india and its surrounding countries) have pin streight hair. white people may have more or less streight hair, but it is nothing like that and to get their hair pin streight, they need help.
I'm white and I have extremely curly hair. In fact, most of the white people I know have naturally wavy hair. I think that people like straight hair right now for the same reason people used to like curly hair: fashion. Not every injustice is about racism, guys.

And as far as straight hair being more Christian, are you sure that was what that lady was implying? I don't know how your hair was, but maybe if you had like, your hair open or in a pompadour or something, she might have been saying that it should have been in a bun or something more modest. She could have been talking about about the actual texture of your hair, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Unless your hair actually was tied up...then that lady is crazy.
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I'm white and I have extremely curly hair. In fact, most of the white people I know have naturally wavy hair. I think that people like straight hair right now for the same reason people used to like curly hair: fashion. Not every injustice is about racism, guys.

And as far as straight hair being more Christian, are you sure that was what that lady was implying? I don't know how your hair was, but maybe if you had like, your hair open or in a pompadour or something, she might have been saying that it should have been in a bun or something more modest. She could have been talking about about the actual texture of your hair, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Unless your hair actually was tied up...then that lady is crazy.
Originally Posted by princessangrypeppers
I had my hair out...really out. I was just letting it be its curly self, and you know how curly hair gets...big.
I dont know why she said that and I never asked her, so it's interesting how people expect me to know what she was thinking.
I'm white and I have extremely curly hair. In fact, most of the white people I know have naturally wavy hair. I think that people like straight hair right now for the same reason people used to like curly hair: fashion. Not every injustice is about racism, guys.

And as far as straight hair being more Christian, are you sure that was what that lady was implying? I don't know how your hair was, but maybe if you had like, your hair open or in a pompadour or something, she might have been saying that it should have been in a bun or something more modest. She could have been talking about about the actual texture of your hair, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Unless your hair actually was tied up...then that lady is crazy.
Originally Posted by princessangrypeppers
I had my hair out...really out. I was just letting it be its curly self, and you know how curly hair gets...big.
I dont know why she said that and I never asked her, so it's interesting how people expect me to know what she was thinking.
Originally Posted by keikok
Well if it was out maybe she was telling you that she thought it'd be more appropriate to wear your hair in a bun or ponytail or something more modest while in church? Maybe?

I'm not defending her, it's just hard for me to believe that someone would think curly hair is un-Christian.
The short answer is that straight hair, like light-colored skin and eyes, is a typically Caucasian trait.
So I guess Indians and Asians don't fit into hair view?
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The short answer is that straight hair, like light-colored skin and eyes, is a typically Caucasian trait.
So I guess Indians and Asians don't fit into hair view?
Originally Posted by Suburbanbushbabe
I agree w/ SBB

I never knew white people were known for having straight hair. The phenotypes, including hair texture, are extremely varied among whites. Even Asians (specifically Chinese, Japanese and Korean) have wavy and somewhat curly hair people among them. I think the whole straight hair = white people comes from the history of oppression by African Americans by white Americans. Straight then suddenly became a word used to describe hair that is not kinky which can include both wavy and curly hair. These are also hair types that many non-whites have as well, including super straight.
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The short answer is that straight hair, like light-colored skin and eyes, is a typically Caucasian trait.
So I guess Indians and Asians don't fit into hair view?
Originally Posted by Suburbanbushbabe
I agree w/ SBB

I never knew white people were known for having straight hair. The phenotypes, including hair texture, are extremely varied among whites. Even Asians (specifically Chinese, Japanese and Korean) have wavy and somewhat curly hair people among them. I think the whole straight hair = white people comes from the history of oppression by African Americans by white Americans. Straight then suddenly became a word used to describe hair that is not kinky which can include both wavy and curly hair. These are also hair types that many non-whites have as well, including super straight.
Originally Posted by multicultcurly

Obviously, there are plenty of White people with naturally curly/wavy hair. However, I've heard about the stereotype that assumes that most if not all White people have straight hair in other countries before. I definitely know about the stereotype that assumes that all Asians have straight hair. I went to Japan and China last year. In Japan and China I would say that perms are very popular among the women there. I was particularly surprised by the number of women I saw in Japan with permed hair. I guess perms are real popular in Japan since the Japanese are predominantly straight haired. However, there were a few Japanese women that definitely had naturally curly hair, which surprised me a bit to be honest. Before my trip to Asia I guess I bought in to the stereotype which assumed that all Orientals have straight hair.

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Well, no maybe straight hair doesn't look good for everyone, and maybe I'm just a bit jealous that other people can actually let their natural curls show. I'm also jealous of anyone who has naturally straight hair, becuase that's all I've ever wanted in my entire life. God, what i wouldn't give for naturally straight hair!! I'd dye my hair pink for it, if I had to.
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Well, no maybe straight hair doesn't look good for everyone, and maybe I'm just a bit jealous that other people can actually let their natural curls show. I'm also jealous of anyone who has naturally straight hair, becuase that's all I've ever wanted in my entire life. God, what i wouldn't give for naturally straight hair!! I'd dye my hair pink for it, if I had to.
Originally Posted by horridly_fluffy_poodle
Yeah but you know what? There's a bit of a paradox here fluffy poodle. If you actually had naturally straight hair for all your life like what you now envy, you would probably be perming your hair, or doing anything you could to have a nice curly hairstyle. I'm sure that you would also be saying that you would give almost anything for nice naturally curly hair, even dying your hair pink for it if the roles were reversed.
You're in exactly the same situation as I am. I'm a white curly (3a/2c?) and my mom is absolutely pin straight, as well as my dad. My brother has VERY slight wave. I have no idea where I got my curls!
The beauty/hair industry thrives on this principle:
You were born imperfect and ugly, and we can fix you so you will be happy!

The racial and historical connotations are undeniable but the beauty industry thrives on insecurities, regardless of where they stem from.
I'm as (curly)blonde, blue-eyed, and white as they come...I always thought the "ideal" skin was tan?

I dunno. I feel like Saila is right. The beauty industry really does play off of insecurities that we inflict upon ourselves. The girl with naturally straight and glossy hair may also have really bad acne. The girl with the perfect tan may have weight issues. I think perfect is more of a mindset than a state of being.
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This thread is so horribly racist. You're saying white people have straight hair? Just white people? In general, most of us DON'T.






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The beauty/hair industry thrives on this principle:
You were born imperfect and ugly, and we can fix you so you will be happy!

The racial and historical connotations are undeniable but the beauty industry thrives on insecurities, regardless of where they stem from.
Originally Posted by Saila

So true. Its really sad that curly girls growing up now(curls were in when I was a teen) have to deal with this very narrow idea of beauty that is pushed currently. One of my young curly friends referred to her hair as "humiliating"....her hair is lovely, but I'm finding it hard to convince her of this fact.
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This thread makes no sense to me. None at all. Even the OP's original statement makes no sense to me.

If you go somewhere, like say, if I go to Germany, and I tried to model, chances are, I would be considered exotic and I would get the job. If someone from Germany went to Africa, they would be considered exotic because they aren't the norm, and would be treated with respect and would be lusted after. True, beauty companies do play off of our insecurities but it's us who let our insecurities dictate to us what we want to be and what we want to be .

There's A LOT of psychology behind beauty too. And attraction. I'm getting off track here but do you know why men are attracted to Asian women (those who have Asian fetishes?) It's because they are to be more submissive in bed. African-American women are thought to be more dominant so men who have fetishes about AA women, usually fantasize about that.

If you wear your hair curly with confidence or wear your hair straight with confidence, then really people will eventually have nothing to say about it. People with straight hair can look unkempt too, so remember that. It's how we all take care of ourselves and present ourselves outward to how people are going to perceive us.

I've had people bash me for being tan but I've had compliments as well. Same for my curly hair and same for when I wear my hair straight. Remember, you're never going to please everyone so when you realize that and stop trying, your confidence will jump even more. And now, I'm seeing a hell of a lot more curlies in magazines and commercials and I'm actually glad I'm not seeing so many relaxers. I'm glad to see people being themselves. But the curlies usually have the same haircut. Now if we could see a bit of diversity.
I always shake my head at people who claim that straight hair is dominantly a white trait when it is FAR from! I see more white people with naturally curly hair then I do with naturally straight.

Want to know who, by far, is more likely to have naturally straight hair? Asians and Native Americans! You can clearly see that they are the ones that always have naturally straight hair. There are some that have naturally wavy or curly hair but that's often from being a mix with another background but not always. Other then that, straight hair is by far more dominant not to mention common amongst them then it is for white people yet no one ever wants to see it that way. I've often wonder why that is. Actually, I think I do know as well as many others.


This thread is so horribly racist. You're saying white people have straight hair? Just white people? In general, most of us DON'T.





Originally Posted by The Spiral Queen
Exactly. If the tables were turned and it was African and/or African Americans, Asians, etc. being the target people would get up in arms about it yet for some stupid reason, it's perfectly okay to do that to white people. Racism isn't acceptable no matter what your skin color is, plain and simple.
Caucasians can have curly hair. The Irish is one group I can name where curls are seen every other person or so. Some are born with straight hair too. I blame this back to the ancient days where the Caucasians didn't want others to intermix with slaves so they viewed curly hair as African American and therefore ugly and unwanted. So curly haired Caucasians denounced their curls to avoid being like an African American and deem that only those of African descent can have curls, opposite of their society imposed view of beauty. That's just my little two cents.
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When I was in San Francisco last month, it was the unusual women, the mixed race people, who stood out the most for their beauty. There was one particular young woman at Macy's who was black/asian, and she was a knockout! Freckles, curls, dark, sloping eyes --- she left caucasian me feeling plain and bland.

However, I really think issues of race and hair preferences are regional. More provincial locales tend to promote homogeneity, while urban centers and their sophisticated off-shoots recognize a wider swathe of beauty. So, race doesn't seem to me to be the issue, but location does. In cities, plain old straight-haired white people are nothing special. It's the unique, the rare, the special that gets noticed. That's been my experience.
Originally Posted by ninja dog
I agree with you 10000000000000 %!! I used to live in Brooklyn, NY which is full of beautiful curly heads. I never felt out of place or less beautiful because of my hair. Now I live in Port Saint Lucie, Fl.... Culture Shock!! People don't know what to say about my "BIG" curly hair. Some people stare. That never happened to me in the big city.


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Caucasians can have curly hair. The Irish is one group I can name where curls are seen every other person or so. Some are born with straight hair too. I blame this back to the ancient days where the Caucasians didn't want others to intermix with slaves so they viewed curly hair as African American and therefore ugly and unwanted. So curly haired Caucasians denounced their curls to avoid being like an African American and deem that only those of African descent can have curls, opposite of their society imposed view of beauty. That's just my little two cents.
Originally Posted by SimplisticMind
Don't forget the the Norwegians, Italians, etc.

And that's a far off theory.
Caucasians can have curly hair. The Irish is one group I can name where curls are seen every other person or so. Some are born with straight hair too. I blame this back to the ancient days where the Caucasians didn't want others to intermix with slaves so they viewed curly hair as African American and therefore ugly and unwanted. So curly haired Caucasians denounced their curls to avoid being like an African American and deem that only those of African descent can have curls, opposite of their society imposed view of beauty. That's just my little two cents.
Originally Posted by SimplisticMind
Don't forget the the Norwegians, Italians, etc.

And that's a far off theory.
Originally Posted by The Spiral Queen
It's not far-off. Look up American history. America had a one-drop rule, which still continues in some parts of the country. If any white person was deemed to have one-drop of black blood, that one person would have lost his or her white status and be considered less than a real person. Curly hair was seen as a trait of miscegenation, as well as not proper - not a great thing in a society that made it legal to torture someone for the way he or she looked. This goes back as recently to the 1960s in the southern United States.
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