Ppl With Wavy Hair Think Its Curly. Am I the only one who's annoyed by this?

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I admit it does bother me at times, mainly when someone with almost straight hair complains about their " unruly really curly hair" or compares their hair to mine and I'm thinking to myself ' you have no idea'

What bothers me more is in magazines when they talk about Curly hair and you see a picture of some actress or singer who has straight hair that has been curled using an iron, so it has loose waves and they bang on about how lovely their curly hair is but you hardly ever see pictures of someone with real curly hair (I'm talking 3b and above)
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Ahh! I thought it was only me! I have ringlet-y hair...3a, 3b and a bit of 3c underneathe. A friend of mine has BEAUTIFUL 2a wavy hair. She has that type of hair that you can do anything with: it holds a curl beautifully, you can flat iron it stick straight in a minute and it stays, it never gets dry or puffy, etc. She used to always argue with me and tell me her hair was so curly and frizzy and I had nothing to complain about. It used to frusterate me so much! She did not know the meaning of "frizz!" Magazines drive me nuts to when they have "curly" hair advice (which, do you notice is always the same?) but show a picture of a straight-haired actress with hair that's clearly been curled by a curling iron.

People are still trying to put their hair into a box they wish it belonged to becuase of this confusion.
Originally Posted by KinkyKeeper
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I don't know why on earth this would make someone that angry...lol. Especially because so many of us with 2C-3A hair have waves and ringlets and such of varying tightness, it's not like there's a clear cut difference between Wavies and Curlies. People refer to my hair as curly all the time, even on its flatter, looser days where there is considerably less ringlet action, and my hair has its "wavier" days and its "curlier" days.

I agree that there's a huge difference between, say, 3C hair and 2A hair in terms of hair care, but there's a lot of overlap of types and it's a little ridiculous to insist on DEFINITE DISTINCTIONS.

What DOES bother me is when someone has fake curls in their hair and calls it "curly hair" (you find this a lot in fashion magazines and whatnot, esp when looking for updos) or if someone thinks that having a few ends flipping or one loose wave in the back (think 1B or 1C hair) is really obnoxious and "too wavy" or whatever and they complain about having to straighten it out. Just....no.

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I admit it does bother me at times, mainly when someone with almost straight hair complains about their " unruly really curly hair" or compares their hair to mine and I'm thinking to myself ' you have no idea'

What bothers me more is in magazines when they talk about Curly hair and you see a picture of some actress or singer who has straight hair that has been curled using an iron, so it has loose waves and they bang on about how lovely their curly hair is but you hardly ever see pictures of someone with real curly hair (I'm talking 3b and above)
Originally Posted by curlycaramel
YES. Biggest pet peeve of my life. I know I shouldn't be so bothered by it, but everytime I read a magazine and they have hairstyles for "curly" hair, I get so aggravated when it's a picture of a celeb with obviously CURLED hair. And I feel the need to point it out to anyone who happens to be around meat the time. My friends are pretty tired of hearing it, I think.
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I don't know if it's just me but i hate when my friends who have wavy hair or just anyone with wavy hair say "oh i like my hair better curly." Also when the complain the talk about there "curls".

And ppl go up to me and say oh how do you get your hair so wavy?!

"Its curly!"
Originally Posted by Boricua

I must agree. It does annoy me a bit. I guess it's a black and white thing. They don't see the gray area.
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You know, it varies for me. In one sense, I consider anyone from 2a to 4b to be in the curly family.

But, it does feel weird, mostly IRL, to hear a 2a or 2b complain about having very curly hair or unruly curls because when compared to me, their hair is more wavy.

But the reverse holds true as well. I'd feel weird complaining about how curly my hair is to a type 4, when she'd probably be wondering why someone with a relatively loose curl pattern (compared to her) would be complaining about tight curls.

The only time it bothers me here is when someone asks for typing help, and they refuse to believe the 15 posters who told them one type, insisting that it is really something else.
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm so caught up in my own hair, that I never think/worry about anyone else's.

People are still trying to put their hair into a box they wish it belonged to becuase of this confusion.
Originally Posted by KinkyKeeper
Hair in a box? Nice imagery

What is a curl?
A curl is a ringlet, springlet or wave
a curl is wary, scary and brave
A curl is proud, a curl is flowing
A curl is thriving and always growing

This silly poem written for you by lazykerri.
Originally Posted by lazykerri
That is too cute!
Originally Posted by curlybrunette5
Thanks curlybrunette! I was beginning to think no one read it

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I'm a wavy, i'm happy to be a wavy and I will try harder not to use the curl word to describe my hair if it bothers people.

But what I don't like seeing in this thread is curlies who don't seem to think wavies have a right to complain about their hair!

I have hair problems too - it's frizzy, it's dull, it always looks messy, the ends are damaged and I can never get 2nd day hair. I want to moan about my hair too!
Hair type: 2c-M-ii with extra frizz
I'm a wavy, i'm happy to be a wavy and I will try harder not to use the curl word to describe my hair if it bothers people.

But what I don't like seeing in this thread is curlies who don't seem to think wavies have a right to complain about their hair!

I have hair problems too - it's frizzy, it's dull, it always looks messy, the ends are damaged and I can never get 2nd day hair. I want to moan about my hair too!
Originally Posted by kema1v
For me, it's not much an issue here when someone has issues, no matter what type. There's more of a family thing here for me.

I do notice it much more IRL when someone less curly than I am complains about being "too curly." I just have to wonder what they are thinking.
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I'm a wavy, i'm happy to be a wavy and I will try harder not to use the curl word to describe my hair if it bothers people.

But what I don't like seeing in this thread is curlies who don't seem to think wavies have a right to complain about their hair!

I have hair problems too - it's frizzy, it's dull, it always looks messy, the ends are damaged and I can never get 2nd day hair. I want to moan about my hair too!
Originally Posted by kema1v
You have every right to complain too!!! Complain to ME I'll listen!
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You know, it varies for me. In one sense, I consider anyone from 2a to 4b to be in the curly family.

But, it does feel weird, mostly IRL, to hear a 2a or 2b complain about having very curly hair or unruly curls because when compared to me, their hair is more wavy.

But the reverse holds true as well. I'd feel weird complaining about how curly my hair is to a type 4, when she'd probably be wondering why someone with a relatively loose curl pattern (compared to her) would be complaining about tight curls.

The only time it bothers me here is when someone asks for typing help, and they refuse to believe the 15 posters who told them one type, insisting that it is really something else.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls

This is what bothers me. I have a friend who insists that her is hair is soooo curly and she complains about how puffy it gets when she combs it, which im sorry, does not compare to the puffiness of an afro. She even asked me "Don't you like how curly my hair gets?" And I was thinking " Chick are you blind, my curls could kick your curls' but any day!" I think she immediately knew how stupid her comment was after she saw the look on my face because she went silent. It sounds juvenile, but it urks me when people try to exaggerate something that really isn't there. Okay, I am done
You have every right to complain too!!! Complain to ME I'll listen!
Originally Posted by DEL2C
Thanks Del. But don't get me started on complaining about my hair, i might not stop again! Maybe I should go post on the "woes of a wavy" thread instead...
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kinky hair is just tiny little curls, so technically, its curly.
I don't know if it's just me but i hate when my friends who have wavy hair or just anyone with wavy hair say "oh i like my hair better curly." Also when the complain the talk about there "curls".

And ppl go up to me and say oh how do you get your hair so wavy?!

"Its curly!"
Originally Posted by Boricua

I must agree. It does annoy me a bit. I guess it's a black and white thing. They don't see the gray area.
Originally Posted by dmiller311
I agree.

I have friends who are 2b's who complain about how curly their hair is. It does annoy me.
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I think that wavy still falls in the curly category. There aren't any distinct lines of curly and wavy. I mean, some days I get awesome curls, some days, pretty, loose waves.

I think some people tend to exaggerate ("my hair is sooo curly"), but if they think their hair is too curly, hey, it's their right.

Now curling-iron curls in magazine articles pretending to be natural - I want to smack them. There are plenty of perfect, naturally-occuring curls out there - get one of them!
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I can't stand it when people claim to have curly hair when it clearly isn't.

They want to hold on to that mindset till all eternity but their hair will never change.


Should people with kinky hair also refrain from calling their hair curly?

I'm not trying to be (too) snarky, but 'curly' is kind of an all purpose word sometimes when talking about hair that isn't straight. It doesn't put anyone down or anything.
Originally Posted by TillyMunchyWaves
Yes, to answer your question. Naturallycurly.com is the only place where I have heard of kinky (afro textured) hair consistently referred to as 'curly'. There is 'afro textured' hair that is curly, but the term does not encompass all afro textured hair that can range from curly, to coily, to no definition at all. I think women on this site with both kinky and wavy hair feel comfortable referring to their hair as 'curly' because the site is naturallycurly.com. We all find common ground in that term since, as you mentioned, it can refer to all hair that is not straight, which is the focus of the site. However, it could influence the way someone perceives their hair and their hair expectations. For example:

One woman may feel that her hair is unmanageable because it is curly, when her hair is actually straight with slight waves. The culprit could be the products that she uses, her haircut, or her styling technique, not the curliness that she thinks her hair possesses.

Or a woman may become obsessed with defining and elongating her 'curl' when her hair will never easily define or elongate because it is actually tightly coiled or cottony (kinky) hair. She has a false expectation that it will curl because that is what non-straight hair is supposed to do, right.

All of these things in consideration, it is ultimately up to a person how they will define their hair, and we can have our own ideas on what it truly is. Who decides what is wavy, kinky, or curly? Is the discussion even necessary (for those of you thinking of starting a thread ) ?
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