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Old 02-28-2009, 08:50 PM   #61
 
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The thing is completely situational.

Bothered me as a child I remember, now though... Only once.
A girl in school had the nerve to ask me if I ever brushed or washed my hair (I have always had problems w/ frizz as well as oilyness due to bad product). I told her that I did, but that my curly hair is troublesome and I have not found how to work it yet. She said "I have curly hair and mine does not look like the bus drivers hair everyday (South Park reference), I just bet your too lazy brush it." I was going to tell her brushing actually makes it worse, but I forgot because I focused in on the fact that her hair was not curly - it was completely 2a wavy type... I proceeded to say some very innopropriate things...

So I agree w/ some others. Let people think what they think, go with the flow, and maybe even you met them on a day when their hair dried a bit flatter. However... It is annoying, downright maddening actually, when it becomes insulting. That's life.
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When I think 'wavy' (if we don't go into technical stuff) I think of 'straight hair that isn't individualized' Most people, I assume, who post on this site as 2a's etc have 'wavy hair' however it's individualized to the point where you can actually take out a piece of hair, as to make it curly, where you can't do that with straight hair.

- This is curly to me.

- That, however, is wavy to me.
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I was reading Oprah (I was waiting for a plane with my family and borrowed my mom's copy... I never read any magazines normally), and there was a "hair makeover" special. One of the women had really long hair that I'd classify as 2a or 2b on a great hair day. It was very pretty despite all the split ends. Anyway, they cut it to her shoulders, where there was still a wave at the bottom, and she was quoted: "I can still wear my hair curly!" It really bugged me for some reason. I mean no disrespect to wavies, being a partial 2c myself, but I don't think that makes much sense.
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The only time this bothers me is when I'm having a b&%ch about my curls (usually on a bad frizz day) and someone with barely wavy hair looks at me and says something infuriating like 'yeah I know what you mean, my hair is SO curly today'...
ummm excuse me?!?!

But as long as you aren't belittling my curly frustration then I don't really care how you define yourself.
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My hair averages out at 2b, so it is definitely on the wavy side. I would love for my hair to be even curlier, and I consider it a great compliment if someone refers to my hair as "curly." For the sake of ease, I refer to my hair as curly. Please, consider it a compliment that we wavy girls call ourselves curly.

But seriously, the Curly Girl movement should not exclude us because we have "wavy" hair. And we are allowed to be members of this website (NaturallyCURLY.com) even though we are but mere wavies. SUCH INJUSTICE!
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I don't know if it's just me but i hate when my friends who have wavy hair or just anyone with wavy hair say "oh i like my hair better curly." Also when the complain the talk about there "curls".

And ppl go up to me and say oh how do you get your hair so wavy?!

"Its curly!"
I've noticed this too. I get a kick out of wavies who think their hair is curly. In general, IRL, I find that most people who do not have stick-straight hair say they have curly hair.
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My hair averages out at 2b, so it is definitely on the wavy side. I would love for my hair to be even curlier, and I consider it a great compliment if someone refers to my hair as "curly." For the sake of ease, I refer to my hair as curly. Please, consider it a compliment that we wavy girls call ourselves curly.

But seriously, the Curly Girl movement should not exclude us because we have "wavy" hair. And we are allowed to be members of this website (NaturallyCURLY.com) even though we are but mere wavies. SUCH INJUSTICE!
Well, yeah, but I don't think it's right to stay in denial about one's hair. It would be a dream come true if my hair curled in a different way, but I know it's never going to happen. All I can do is take good care of my hair and hope for consistency.

I do think that wavies get excluded sometimes and that's why we feel the need to lump ourselves in other categories to stay afloat. And wavies have the greatest variety in the way their hair turns out every day. So it's a gamble.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:22 PM   #68
 
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Straight-haired people always refer to my hair as curly, whereas curlies always refer to it as wavy. I just say it has multiple personality disorder and leave it at that.

I can see how it would be annoying to hear someone with looser curls/waves call their hair curly as if it takes just as much effort and it's just as much of a pain in the butt, when it's not. But getting so irked about it is kinda like, "Pfft, they're not in our club of awesome hair!"

So I suppose I'll have to make my own club then. Or I could just go over to the forum for wavies, since I keep forgetting it's there.

Either way, I don't care how another person refers to their hair. In fact, if I know they're brushing it or doing other stupid crap to it, I might take it as an opportunity to tell them how they can bring the "curl" out more with less frizzies.
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The only time it bugs me is when someone with beautiful shiny wavy hair complains about frizz! And I'm thinking, frizz? Honey you don't know frizz! It makes me think that if they had my hair on its very BEST day they probably wouldn't leave the house without a bag on their head.

But then again, there are probably girls out there with hair much curlier than mine that would say the same thing to me.

Maybe curly is a state of mind!
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Yeah...I do get annoyed. I don't know why...I just do.
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To Mirthfuljolt:
What the girl said to you had nothing to do with the fact that she was a wavy. She, first and formost is a jerk.

I guess what my whole problem with this post is, I think you're focusing on the wrong thing. You don't have wavy hair, so you don't know what its like to have wavy hair.

You guys get annoyed with someone because they are comparing themselves to you -- which you feel is completely unjustified. Why? Is wavy hair less frizzy? I know some wavies who would beg to differ lol. Is wavy hair somehow easier to style? Is wavy hair less glamorous?

Do you see why this post might bother some wavies? You guys use language that's almost belittling in reference to them. I don't think that you guys really think that, but geez.

I can see why the OP was annoyed, because that was like an attack. But just getting annoyed because someone classifies themselves in a way that you don't agree with? How is it an insult to you?
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What the girl said to you had nothing to do with the fact that she was a wavy. She, first and formost is a jerk.

I guess what my whole problem with this post is, I think you're focusing on the wrong thing. You don't have wavy hair, so you don't know what its like to have wavy hair.

You guys get annoyed with someone because they are comparing themselves to you -- which you feel is completely unjustified. Why? Is wavy hair less frizzy? I know some wavies who would beg to differ lol. Is wavy hair somehow easier to style? Is wavy hair less glamorous?

Do you see why this post might bother some wavies? You guys use language that's almost belittling in reference to them. I don't think that you guys really think that, but geez.

I can see why the OP was annoyed, because that was like an attack. But just getting annoyed because someone classifies themselves in a way that you don't agree with? How is it an insult to you?

I totally agree!!!

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Yeah, I understand. However, I don't think what you said is completely .. well... just. I have a friend who's a wavy and her hair is sooo thick and frizzy.. and she wants it to be straight so badly.

But, it's not really the whole "what's curly" thing that ticks me off. It's when they (straight haired girls) go.. my hair is getting curly! and they flat ironed it and it's dead straight except for a couple strands.. that pisses me off sooooo much..

*Note: They already had straight hair to begin with.
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I hate when someone asks me if i have a perm !!!! NO!!!! I also know a girl with straight hair who recently got a perm....she says "hey we now have the same curly hair".....no we don't...you paid to get your naturally straight hair permed....i step out of the shower, throw some gel in my hair, and have naturally curly hair instantly..... it is not the same!!!!
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All you curly hair girls have similar problems as the wavy haired girls. Everyone has different textures...The point is, we all have textured hair.
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No, it doesn't bother me. I don't see why someone would find this annoying. Let people believe they have a certain texture if they want. For all you know they could have very curly hair but mistreat it and it comes out wavy when they leave the house. It doesn't even matter, and it's pretentious to even care. Also, that isn't bashing at all.
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Why would anyone get annoyed? Only we know how curly/wavy our hair can be. Why would anyone be so intolerant? It's still just hair!
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Well, I'm a wavy. I do have some 3a ringlets mixed in with my 2b/c waves, but I am a wavy rather than a true curly.

And I do see your point, to a degree. It's kind of similar to the way a 4'10" woman feels hearing her friend who who is 5'4" complain about the travails of being short, I imagine.

That being said, however, I (and my fellow wavies) face most of the same hair challenges that our curlier cohorts do. Frizziness, poufiness, dryness, breakage, lack of definition, triangle-head, hairstylists that pressure me to blow dry and flatiron, etc..

Some of the best hair advice I have came from the 3c and 4a boards. I definitely have more in common with Curlies than with straight-haired people, that's for sure.

And when you come right down to it, I *do* technically have curly hair. It forms nice fat ringlety curls, they are just bigger and more stretched out than, say, a Type 3b. The differences between me and a "real" curly are just a matter of degree.

BTW those smooth-haired wavy celebrities probably don't actually have wavy hair. Remember, they have hordes of stylists armed with flatirons and hot rollers following them around. So just because Joss Stone doesn't seem to have frizz doesn't mean a typical 2c won't sport some rather spectacular frizz.

If anything, wavy frizz issues can often be WORSE than a curlier person's -- because a surprising number of us have no clue how to handle our hair, and simply assume that it is inexplicably unmanageable. For years I could not figure out why my hair always resembled a giant and rather untidy birds' nest, despite my best efforts, until a helpful curly-haired friend gently pointed out that it probably was very wavy and perhaps I should embrace its natural texture and start treating it nicely.

Add to that the typical wavy dilemma of "Does my hair look wavy or just extremely messy?" and the fact that most of us seem to sport three different textures of hair on the same head -- the grass isn't all that much greener over here!
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Well, I'm a wavy. I do have some 3a ringlets mixed in with my 2b/c waves, but I am a wavy rather than a true curly.

And I do see your point, to a degree. It's kind of similar to the way a 4'10" woman feels hearing her friend who who is 5'4" complain about the travails of being short, I imagine.

That being said, however, I (and my fellow wavies) face most of the same hair challenges that our curlier cohorts do. Frizziness, poufiness, dryness, breakage, lack of definition, triangle-head, hairstylists that pressure me to blow dry and flatiron, etc..

Some of the best hair advice I have came from the 3c and 4a boards. I definitely have more in common with Curlies than with straight-haired people, that's for sure.

And when you come right down to it, I *do* technically have curly hair. It forms nice fat ringlety curls, they are just bigger and more stretched out than, say, a Type 3b. The differences between me and a "real" curly are just a matter of degree.

BTW those smooth-haired wavy celebrities probably don't actually have wavy hair. Remember, they have hordes of stylists armed with flatirons and hot rollers following them around. So just because Joss Stone doesn't seem to have frizz doesn't mean a typical 2c won't sport some rather spectacular frizz.

If anything, wavy frizz issues can often be WORSE than a curlier person's -- because a surprising number of us have no clue how to handle our hair, and simply assume that it is inexplicably unmanageable. For years I could not figure out why my hair always resembled a giant and rather untidy birds' nest, despite my best efforts, until a helpful curly-haired friend gently pointed out that it probably was very wavy and perhaps I should embrace its natural texture and start treating it nicely.

Add to that the typical wavy dilemma of "Does my hair look wavy or just extremely messy?" and the fact that most of us seem to sport three different textures of hair on the same head -- the grass isn't all that much greener over here!

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It gets annoying when girls with straight hair or possibly wavy hair who flat iron use the word "curly" in a negative light. You know? I can't think of an example to save my life right now.
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