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Boricua 01-25-2009 05:39 PM

Ppl With Wavy Hair Think Its Curly. Am I the only one who's annoyed by this?
 
I don't know if it's just me but i hate when my friends who have wavy hair or just anyone with wavy hair say "oh i like my hair better curly." Also when the complain the talk about there "curls".

And ppl go up to me and say oh how do you get your hair so wavy?!

"Its curly!"

jmw 01-25-2009 06:19 PM

It hasn't bothered me in my adult life, but when I was a kid my aunt would take my cousin (her daughter) and I places, and when people would say how cute my curls were, my aunt would almost immediately start talking about my cousins ONE FREAKING CURL that was hidden under her otherwise wavy/straight hair. :protest: I was probably 7or 8 years old and I would get so mad about that!!! Like she was always trying to steal the curly spotlight away from me!!!!

lily44 01-25-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Boricua (Post 857349)
I don't know if it's just me but i hate when my friends who have wavy hair or just anyone with wavy hair say "oh i like my hair better curly." Also when the complain the talk about there "curls".

And ppl go up to me and say oh how do you get your hair so wavy?!

"Its curly!"

It's just you...curly or wavy, why do you care what others say about their own hair; we aren't the ultimate curly judges after all! :banghead:

Look at it this way, maybe in an off-handed way they actually aspire to have the hair they crave by comparing their waves to your curls, hmm!? Consider it a compliment not a threat to your curliness!

Lighten up already....too much stress is bad for the skin (and hair!)
:toothy4:

TillyMunchyWaves 01-25-2009 07:42 PM

Well I guess I should be really specific at all times, like the first inch or two of my hair at the roots is straight, then a good portion of the length is wavy, and the ends will curl...

Should people with kinky hair also refrain from calling their hair curly?

I'm not trying to be (too) snarky, but 'curly' is kind of an all purpose word sometimes when talking about hair that isn't straight. It doesn't put anyone down or anything.

DEL2C 01-25-2009 08:45 PM

The only time I get annoyed, is when someone says they are something they are not when classifying their "curls" stating they are curlier then their pics show. I just don't get why they do that? Just embrace what you have no need to say you're a 3 when you're clearly a 2!

I'm a wavy and I usually refer to my hair as such. Sometimes I'll say I get better "curl" from this or that product but it's just an expression. No reason to get uptight about it really.

Candycane 01-26-2009 12:15 AM

One of the girls at my job did a braid out and her hair went from being pin straight to crimped like waves---she kept tellin people that her hair was curly for the day lol--i just let her b happy for the moment n kept my mouth shut---although i was sayin wtf? in my mind

curlywurlygurly 01-26-2009 02:37 AM

This post really intrigued me.. I've never really thought about it; I know what curly hair looks like and what wavy hair looks like, but I'd never really put that much thought into it and that by using the words interchangeably would be at all offensive.

After doing some research (was intrigued on what the definition of curl was), I'd have to agree with tillymunchywaves...

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Originally Posted by TillyMunchyWaves (Post 857421)
I'm not trying to be (too) snarky, but 'curly' is kind of an all purpose word sometimes when talking about hair that isn't straight. It doesn't put anyone down or anything.

all the definitions of curly I found said something like this..
"curly
adj. having curls, wavy (of hair); having a wavy grain (of wood)"

which could be where the confusion starts...

I also think that classes ones hair is a rather complicated as we are all so different, and our wave/curl patterns are unique.


I'd also have to agree with Del2c in terms of describing my hair.. i wouldn't say my hair has better waves.. I'd say it's "curling" more, it just makes more sense to me...?


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Originally Posted by DEL2C (Post 857477)
I'm a wavy and I usually refer to my hair as such. Sometimes I'll say I get better "curl" fromthis or that product but it's just an expression. No reason to get uptight about it really.

I guess it will be interesting to see what others have to say about this, and whether this is a common occurrence.

KinkyKeeper 01-26-2009 04:32 AM

Well to me wavy is actually any S pattern at all and curls are ringlets and Os. Like Shirley Temple. So actually IMHO there are type 4s that are "wavies" (like my hair is actually just really little S shaped waves) and type 3s who I wouldn't call "curlies". And that's how I see it. One of the benefits of going natural and accepting my natural kinky texture is not having to be envious of anyone else's texture.

The whole kinky curly wavy thing is confusing. People are still trying to put their hair into a box they wish it belonged to becuase of this confusion. Not gonna point any fingers but there are still people with clear lovely kinks 4B straight up who are gonna insist they have some 3C hair. There are gonna be people who you might think are wavy who want to be called curly. There are people who think any texture whatsoever is "kinky" or "curly". Eh.

Spider 01-26-2009 06:58 AM

My hair is wavy (with the stray curl or two underneath), and it's easier to wear straight, but I still consider myself a "curly girl" :pirate:

DEL2C 01-26-2009 11:30 AM

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all the definitions of curly I found said something like this..
"curly
adj. having curls, wavy (of hair); having a wavy grain (of wood)"
Well that certainly sums it up!! We're ALL WAVY :laughing6: so really the 2 are interchangeable simple as that!!

lazykerri 01-26-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KinkyKeeper (Post 857576)
People are still trying to put their hair into a box they wish it belonged to becuase of this confusion.

:laughing3: Hair in a box? Nice imagery ;)

What is a curl?
A curl is a ringlet, springlet or wave
a curl is wary, scary and brave
A curl is proud, a curl is flowing
A curl is thriving and always growing

This silly poem written for you by lazykerri.
:cat:

Curlyminx 01-27-2009 11:43 AM

Shoot. I won't lie. it bugs me. I don't tell them. Let them think their waves are the same as curls. Whatever.

then again, I only started to think that when my best friend (who loves all curls of all kinds) compared my curls to a girl-I-can't-stand's waves. I argued the point then, and can't stop ever since.

I'm not sure I cared ever before.

hmmm... I may need to re-evaluate the basis behind my feels about this....

Koukla72 01-27-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KinkyKeeper (Post 857576)
Well to me wavy is actually any S pattern at all and curls are ringlets and Os. Like Shirley Temple. So actually IMHO there are type 4s that are "wavies" (like my hair is actually just really little S shaped waves) and type 3s who I wouldn't call "curlies". And that's how I see it. One of the benefits of going natural and accepting my natural kinky texture is not having to be envious of anyone else's texture.

The whole kinky curly wavy thing is confusing. People are still trying to put their hair into a box they wish it belonged to becuase of this confusion. Not gonna point any fingers but there are still people with clear lovely kinks 4B straight up who are gonna insist they have some 3C hair. There are gonna be people who you might think are wavy who want to be called curly. There are people who think any texture whatsoever is "kinky" or "curly". Eh.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...s/00000697.gif And I'd like to add on to the bolded that one of the benefits of confident and serene self acceptance is also not feeling the need to bash or belittle other people's curl patterns in comparison to one's own, whatever those patterns may be - straight, wavy, loopy or kinky. When I see or hear someone doing that it seems pretty obvious they're only revealing the pathetic little insecurities their arrogance must be based in.

I'm just sayin'. Since we're being honest, and all. 8)

Curlyminx 01-27-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Koukla72 (Post 859019)
Quote:

Originally Posted by KinkyKeeper (Post 857576)
Well to me wavy is actually any S pattern at all and curls are ringlets and Os. Like Shirley Temple. So actually IMHO there are type 4s that are "wavies" (like my hair is actually just really little S shaped waves) and type 3s who I wouldn't call "curlies". And that's how I see it. One of the benefits of going natural and accepting my natural kinky texture is not having to be envious of anyone else's texture.

The whole kinky curly wavy thing is confusing. People are still trying to put their hair into a box they wish it belonged to becuase of this confusion. Not gonna point any fingers but there are still people with clear lovely kinks 4B straight up who are gonna insist they have some 3C hair. There are gonna be people who you might think are wavy who want to be called curly. There are people who think any texture whatsoever is "kinky" or "curly". Eh.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...s/00000697.gif And I'd like to add on to the bolded that one of the benefits of confident and serene self acceptance is also not feeling the need to bash or belittle other people's curl patterns in comparison to one's own, whatever those patterns may be - straight, wavy, loopy or kinky. When I see or hear someone doing that it seems pretty obvious they're only revealing the pathetic little insecurities their arrogance must be based in.

I'm just sayin'. Since we're being honest, and all. 8)

OUCH!

Since I was the one that wasn't going to lie and your being honest, i figure you mean me.

You are right. I already said that. But thank you for pointing out my pathetic little insecurities more than I did. I only got an issue about it after someone very important to me made a comparison between myself and someone I don't care for (and who didn't have hair like me at all). Before that, I didn't think twice about it. So it IS my insecurity. I dunno about arrogance (on a personal level), so maybe you meant the larger group of people who bother to think about this.

Personally I never considered it an arrogant thought to have an opinion on what a curl is versus what a wave is, unless you (the general 'you') weren't really comparing the two and comparing someone elses hair to your own. That is arrogant (if you think yours is better of course).

eta: I hope that i'm reading too far into this. Either way: I agree with you. A curl is anything other than straight. I can give opinions all day as to what I think, but at the end of the day, a curl is anything that isn't straight. Anything more that I say is just my personal opinions and views.

Boomygrrl 01-28-2009 11:53 AM

Most of the time, it doesn't annoy me. I think what annoys me (and it's clearly my issue, I know) is when someone who has mostly straight hair (and it's occasionally wavy looking on the ends because they didn't flat-iron it that day) talks about having curly hair and they think they can relate to problems that curly haired people have. I know someone like this. She's 90 percent straight with a little wave on the bottom of her hair...she talks about having frizz issues and how her hair is sooooo dry. I feel like saying "Girl, you don't know the half of it."
I'm aware she might have hair issues as well, but she seems to exaggerate her issues. Her hair isn't dry...there isn't much frizz to it when she forgets to flat-iron...but, of course, I'm comparing her hair to mine. In her mind, it's oh so frizzy. Ack!!!

wavycurly40+ 01-28-2009 04:12 PM

I think "curly" is kind of a more generic term. Out there in the regular world (where people don't have complex classification systems for their hair type), people will use the word curly pretty loosely.

KinkyKeeper is also onto something with her comments about the shape of curls/waves. I consider myself a wavy, but I'm not sure I have a single s-curve on my head. They're spirals -- just very, very loose and stretched out spirals. And yes, I describe them as curls at times -- even though they may not "technically" qualify.

It's another problem with the hairtyping systems we have, and with semantics. But I think it's unlikely that anybody using those terms is trying to steal anybody's anything.

Verity 01-29-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wavycurly40+ (Post 860373)
I think "curly" is kind of a more generic term. Out there in the regular world (where people don't have complex classification systems for their hair type), people will use the word curly pretty loosely.

I use the word "curly" for any hair that isn't board-straight (or straightened). I have never understood or been motivated to learn the hair typing system on this board.

j-jill. 01-29-2009 01:24 PM

It doesn't bother me.
To me, "Curly" defines all of those different sorts of textures that don't accompany straight hair, and when I say curly I somewhat mean Wavy too.
But what does get on my nerves, is that some people with straight hair claim they have wavy hair because they took a shower and slept on it, which resulted in a little bit of a wave.

A teN jaDe neWt 01-29-2009 03:40 PM

I don't care about wavy vs. curly because honestly I have curls on my head that are 2b wavy and curls that are 3c curly. But what does bother me is when people with straight hair put a whole bottle of gel in their hair and scrunch until they can't scrunch anymore then claim they have curly hair.

Mint 01-29-2009 04:25 PM

I think that for simplicity's sake the full definition of "curly" should include all hair types that aren't straight. Like in Curly Girl, the subtypes of wavy, botticelli and kinky are covered. :happy5:


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