Hi, Newbie Here. Losing My Hair, Depressed

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Hi all.

I'll make this as brief as possible. End of 2009, I developed overnight pelvic pain and nonstop bleeding. This went in for 8 months straight and no OB, specialist, endo, etc. could figure it out.

One OB suggested I try BCP, which briefly stopped the bleeding but not the constant pelvic pain. And it caused hair loss, but as soon as I stopped, the hair loss stopped. I was blessed with a LOT of hair.

So more specialists ran more painful tests.

Several endos later, one suggested thyroid meds: Levothyroxine (25mcg). My thyroid levels were barely hypo (TSH: 3.68, Free T3 and Free T4 mid-range), but I was tired of bleeding and desperate for a fix. Two months on levo, then switched to Synthroid and my bleeding was not being helped...BUT I began losing my hair like a chemo patient: by the handful. Prior to this, I had ZERO hair loss.

The doctor said I was adjusting, to just wait it out. 6 months later on Synthroid and I was sweating profusely, losing massive hair, jittery, and still bleeding/in pain. My TSH at this point was 1.09.

I couldn't take all the hair loss. In 4 months, I lost40% of my hair. So I got off the Synthroid (end of 2010). BUT...my hair loss did NOT stop then and I'm still losing: it's now 2013.

I have had work ups, blood drawn numerous times, and ended up having surgery for the pelvic pain. Turned out I had ovarian adhesion (fixed since) and a small uterine fibroid that they could not remove because it's intrauterine (in the uterine wall). They weren't sure if I have PCOS, but I do get painful cysts and ruptured cysts every few months (could be why I had adhesions).

I was put then on MetAformin, just in case, but my 3a curls started to go flat and fall out eve more, so I stopped.

Since the surgery in Feb 2011, my pelvic pain is mostly okay. But my 28 cycle changed to 21 days, and my bleeding has been persistently HEAVY. TMI, but I go through 60 tampons per 7-day cycle.

I was told by one doc that my hair loss is Chronic Telogen Effluvium and would eventually stop. I started out with thick hair; now I barely have 40% of that hair. It's been 3 years of this!

I stayed off all meds for 2 years, and continued to lose massive amounts of hair. No recovery whatsoever. The loss is diffuse, but worse around the nape of my neck, above my ears, and the front of my forehead (you can see scalp now) and my temples.

I ALSO lost all the hair on my arms, lower legs, and 60% on my scalp. My hair also stopped growing, as did my finger and toe nails.

More recently (September 2012), out of desperation, a new doc suggested dessicated thyroid meds, very low dose. I started on 1/4 grain Naturethroid and my period came even sooner...every 19 days and even more HEAVY! Then, after 6 weeks of more hair loss and excessive menstrual bleeding, I was switched to 1/4 grain compounded T3/T4 dessicated Thyroid USP (more expensive, but less fillers). I had serious heart palpitations and more hair loss, including eyebrows (which was new).

Now I'm on dessicated compounded Armour, 1/4 grain. I continue to lose even more hair.

I obviously triggered something with my first round with Synthroid, because my hair loss will not stop, no matter what.

I've had my sex hormones tested: estrogen is okay, progesterone is slightly lower, testosterone is normal. Cortisol is normal (high end of normal, but it was a.m. Cortisol and I was super anxious). My current TSH is 2.89, I tested negative for thyroid antibodies, lupus, diabetes, the works.

I am considering getting off thyroid meds again because the hair loss is even worse!

I have noticed, even prior to this latest round of thyroid trial/error that my hair loss DOUBLES 10 days before my period begins, remains bad through most of it, then tapers down to less-scary for a few days after my period is over and starts up again during ovulation (CD 12).

I have*tried asking OBs which hormone may be causing this, and each has a different answer! Clearly, nothing scientific is happening, just random guessing on their part. But I think progesterone is what elevated before a menstrual cycle and is causing the loss to get worse. Am I wrong?

I recently read a book on What Your Doctor Will Not Tell You About Premenopause (I'm 39) by John Lee, and it says progesterone deficiency can cause my symptoms. I am not deficient, if only slightly lower compared to my estrogen.

But I thought progesterone increases before your period and tapers off by the end of the period, which is the time period when I lose the MOST hair.

I am desperate and depressed. I have to help myself at this point and I am out of money, so cannot do more tests. I gave seen so jany doctors and they are all clueless!

l keep reading conflicting stories about whether natural progesterone causes OR helps hair loss. Or whether I need estrogen (except it wouldn't be good for my fibroids). Or if I need Adrenal support. I haven't been tested for adrenal fatigue because I have run out of money and insurance doesn't cover it. So I'm on my own.

Can someone PLEASE help?!

Thank you.

Last edited by HoliWood; 01-17-2013 at 12:13 PM.
Wow, you've tried so much, IDK what else to suggest, but you'll sure be in my thoughts and prayers!

I know of a couple of practices in the Atlanta area that practice "integrative" medicine, which seems to be traditional Western medicine combined with homeopathic and/or naturaopathic with some accupuncture/-pressure and Ayurvedic ideas thrown in - and probably more than I'm not remembering or don't know about.

Anyway, I know of a couple of people who had seemingly unsolvable problems such as yours who gave them a try. They seemed to go the extra mile to really try to find out the origins of their problems and then help resolve them with the least invasive, most natural way(s) possible.

Maybe look for something similar in your area? Since they're M.D.'s, I think insurance still covers most, if not all, of what they do.

If you were seeing an enocrinologist about adrenal testing, do you mean to say it still wouldn't be covered??
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

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Wow, you've tried so much, IDK what else to suggest, but you'll sure be in my thoughts and prayers!
Originally Posted by WurlyLox
Thank you, I need it.
I know of a couple of practices in the Atlanta area that practice "integrative" medicine, which seems to be traditional Western medicine combined with homeopathic and/or naturaopathic with some accupuncture/-pressure and Ayurvedic ideas thrown in - and probably more than I'm not remembering or don't know about.

Anyway, I know of a couple of people who had seemingly unsolvable problems such as yours who gave them a try. They seemed to go the extra mile to really try to find out the origins of their problems and then help resolve them with the least invasive, most natural way(s) possible.

Maybe look for something similar in your area? Since they're M.D.'s, I think insurance still covers most, if not all, of what they do.
I have been to a naturopath and through acupuncture. The naturopath wanted to put me on cortisone, which is not natural (Predinose) and all the side effects that go with it (Moon face, weight gain), and I went to acupuncture for months...and nothing. She did give me Chinese herbs to try but I read those particular ones cause liver damage. That's not a viable trade off for me.
If you were seeing an enocrinologist about adrenal testing, do you mean to say it still wouldn't be covered??
Supposedly, the best adrenal guage is a saliva test and yes, insurance does not cover that.

After all I've tried, I'm broke AND balding!
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I've got nothin' more - just T's & P's Except, how's your iron?? Low iron levels can cause iron loss . . . Maybe someone else will chime in with something more.

BTW, I've been on Metformin for years for insulin resistance from PCOS (prescribed by a reproductive endocrinologist who specializes in PCOS). No hair loss problems because of it - I don't think. I do have one area at one temple, but it was already thinning a little while before the Metformin. It may not have helped any, though! And I've grown hair on my chinny chin chin and elsewhere because of the PCOS, and I certainly haven't lost any of that since the Metformin. I'm not saying the drug couldn't be at least part of your problem, though.

I took PhytoPhanere vitamins when my thinning started, $25 for a months worth, and they seemed to help, but not cheap. I no longer take them because I take a much better multi than I did back then and also get additional biotin in a supplement I take to help with glucose control and MSM in my joint supplement - both are supposed to help with hair loss, as you probably know, but yours sounds more like you need to find your underlying cause.

I do recall a friend of mine having saliva testing done by naturopath. Wonder if they would be any less expensive than by an endocrinologist . . . .

Hey, I know, write The Doctors and Dr. Oz about it - maybe you'd be one of the lucky ones that they end up covering the cost of needed procedures/testing to finally find out what's going on. Sounds crazy, but you really do see them do that a lot . . . .

Try to to stay optimistic - the stress of it all probably greatly contributes
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

www.fotki.com/auntnett

Last edited by WurlyLox; 01-18-2013 at 01:24 PM.
I've got nothin' more - just T's & P's Except, how's your iron?? Low iron levels can cause iron loss . . . Maybe someone else will chime in with something more.
Originally Posted by WurlyLox
I've been anemic or borderline anemic ALL my life. It never affected my hair.
BTW, I've been on Metformin for years for insulin resistance from PCOS (prescribed by a reproductive endocrinologist who specializes in PCOS). No hair loss problems because of it - I don't think. I do have one area at one temple, but it was already thinning a little while before the Metformin. It may not have helped any, though! And I've grown hair on my chinny chin chin and elsewhere because of the PCOS, and I certainly haven't lost any of that since the Metformin. I'm not saying the drug couldn't be at least part of your problem, though.
Metaformin was given to me 2 months after the Synthroid. By then, the hair loss had taken hold BIG time and I went to a specialist to see if there were any other reasons for the hair loss and she said maybe try this. It didn't help. I only WISH I had stopped taking the Synthroid right then, instead of waiting another 4 months for it to create more damage. I just don't understand why my entire body hair hasn't recovered from this.

I do know there was a civil lawsuit a few years ago against the company that makes Synthroid, from women who had also lost hair and never recovered it from that poison. So I know it's not only me, but it is scary to read that those ladies never recovered either. It makes me feel very hopeless.

I took PhytoPhanere vitamins when my thinning started, $25 for a months worth, and they seemed to help, but not cheap. I no longer take them because I take a much better multi than I did back then and also get additional biotin in a supplement I take to help with glucose control and MSM in my joint supplement - both are supposed to help with hair loss, as you probably know, but yours sounds more like you need to find your underlying cause.
I have spent thousands on doctors and supplements, and nothing has helped. I have a cabinet full of hair supplements, etc. and nope, nothing. Biotin, I have read, actually increases testosterone in the body, and when I took it, my hair fell out faster, and nothing grew as fast in its place to recover from it. I don't know...no one has found the underlying cause and I can't afford to see anymore people. I'd have found the brilliant person who could help me save my hair by now, isn't it?
I do recall a friend of mine having saliva testing done by naturopath. Wonder if they would be any less expensive than by an endocrinologist . . . .
They don't send it through their office. They just give you the kit and tell you to send the payment by check to the lab directly. Same price.
Hey, I know, write The Doctors and Dr. Oz about it - maybe you'd be one of the lucky ones that they end up covering the cost of needed procedures/testing to finally find out what's going on. Sounds crazy, but you really do see them do that a lot . . . .
I saw a show they did on hair loss. They sent this one woman to a hair laser place where she was to get treatments and supposedly that would help. I know women who have tried the laser and it did very little but peach fuzz. My hair is now see through to my scalp...I hate going out in the daytime or being under lights now. It's a nightmare I can't seem to wake up from!
Try to to stay optimistic - the stress of it all probably greatly contributes
Yes, the stress is actually giving me an ulcer. But it's been 3 years. I stayed positive, hoping for recovery or a solution but now, what do I do?

Thank you for letting me vent here. This problem is causing me so much depression...and I just have no one else who will listen to me discuss it. Friends and family just blow it off, either because they can't be bothered or they are bothered and would rather not hear about it because there's nothing they can do.

I can't believe this is happening to me.

Two months before the Synthroid, I had my usual hair appointment and got blonde highlights put into my hair. It took my stylist (of 7 years) 4 hours to do it, because I had so much hair.

The next time she saw me was 3 months into the Synthroid (and 5 months since my highlights) and she was floored at the amount of hair I had left. She knew me all those year and knew my hair and could not believe so much had fallen out. And that was 2010. Now it's 2013...imagine.
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