Trichotillomania...

i can answer yes to a few of these questions..

starting when i was 18, i shaved my head for 2 or 3 years. but not because of this disorder, i was a bit of a rebel, couldn't stand everyone always telling me "what a lovely head of hair i had", my hair was always such a pain in the arse to deal with, and i thought it would be fun. turns out i hated it, but couldn't deal with the grow out phase! there's a pic somewhere in my fotki.

now i do pull out a head hair on occasion.. the "bad" ones.. those that are super wiry that sprout off the top of my head, and the random straightish ones that mess up the flow of all the others. there is definitely a sense of satisfaction when i do it, i look at them and say "gotchya, you #@%*", and then i feel a little guilty about it.

i definitely have a history of getting a bit ocd while plucking out body hair.. in the past eyebrows, till i over plucked and now a bunch of them won't grow back now it's onto the armpits. in between waxing i'll need to whip out the tweezers, and sometimes 2 hours will go by and i haven't even noticed! but with the hair on my head i don't get like that. but my dad does with his hair. he's been going bald since forever so i guess it doesn't really matter. he tries to get the random ones that grow in the bald spot.
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hypothyroid
3a & 3b
fine, normal, coarse
normal & porous(?)
protein sensitive(?)
the bane of my existence

on a mission to find my hg's.
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Posts: 156
Hi dagydoodle,

Since I already posted in this thread and seen in your sig that you are hypothyroid, I would like to know if you are under the mainstream line of medication with levothyroxine or if you have looked at other alternatives (T3/T4 or Armour). I had a quick look at your pics as I was curious as to how your eyebrows would look since you mention you pluck them a lot and they seem perfectly fine. One of the symptons of hypothyroidism is "balding" in the third external sector of the eyebrows, which you dont seem to have, so I am assuming you are on the right medication.

If you rather reply via PM instead of publicly, feel free.

Roy

P.D Nice curls

Last edited by Roy_Boy; 05-12-2010 at 12:06 AM. Reason: Forgot to compliment her curls.
Hi dagydoodle,

Since I already posted in this thread and seen in your sig that you are hypothyroid, I would like to know if you are under the mainstream line of medication with levothyroxine or if you have looked at other alternatives (T3/T4 or Armour). I had a quick look at your pics as I was curious as to how your eyebrows would look since you mention you pluck them a lot and they seem perfectly fine. One of the symptons of hypothyroidism is "balding" in the third external sector of the eyebrows, which you dont seem to have, so I am assuming you are on the right medication.

If you rather reply via PM instead of publicly, feel free.

Roy

P.D Nice curls
Originally Posted by Roy_Boy
hey roy,

on levoxyl, been on it since becoming hypo, maybe 3 or 4 years ago. not into dabbling with others, tried cytomel several months ago and i ended up going hyper. so even though it's been a work in progress trying to get the perfect balance of tsh, i'm all set with experimenting for a while. thyroid problems yourself? doctor?

ha HA, my permanent makeup fooled you!

love your hair, that style looks great on you!
http://public.fotki.com/dagidoodle/
password: dagi

hypothyroid
3a & 3b
fine, normal, coarse
normal & porous(?)
protein sensitive(?)
the bane of my existence

on a mission to find my hg's.

Last edited by dagidoodle; 05-12-2010 at 01:22 AM.
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Hi dagydoodle,

Since I already posted in this thread and seen in your sig that you are hypothyroid, I would like to know if you are under the mainstream line of medication with levothyroxine or if you have looked at other alternatives (T3/T4 or Armour). I had a quick look at your pics as I was curious as to how your eyebrows would look since you mention you pluck them a lot and they seem perfectly fine. One of the symptons of hypothyroidism is "balding" in the third external sector of the eyebrows, which you dont seem to have, so I am assuming you are on the right medication.

If you rather reply via PM instead of publicly, feel free.

Roy

P.D Nice curls
Originally Posted by Roy_Boy
hey roy,

on levoxyl, been on it since becoming hypo, maybe 3 or 4 years ago. not into dabbling with others, tried cytomel several months ago and i ended up going hyper. so even though it's been a work in progress trying to get the perfect balance of tsh, i'm all set with experimenting for a while. thyroid problems yourself? doctor?

ha HA, my permanent makeup fooled you!

love your hair, that style looks great on you!
Originally Posted by dagidoodle
Well, cytomel only will cause TSH to plummet but T4 levels will stay low. You need both T3 and T4 in range. Levoxyl (levothyroxine) alone does not work for everyone and depending on the dose, it may create more problems than solutions. There's some issues with levothryoxine only medicating due to inefficient conversion of T4 to T3 but I would be winding you up if I wrote the rationale.

Care to give your doses of levoxyl as well as the ones of cytomel when you ran the trial? Cytomel-only is not issued by doctors easily so did you try it yourself via self-medicating? Your body produces about 88-100mcgs of T4 and 10-15mcgs of T3 per day, depending on bodyweight and energy demands, so cytomel, which comes in varying doses, can easily turn you hyper if overdosed slightly (not so much T4 as the body converts T4 to T3 peripherically as needed).

As I say, post your doses and thyroid panel results (especifically TSH, free T3 (if it was tested), free or total T4 (which should have been tested) as well as thyroid antibody titers. I am assuming you suffer from autoinmune disease (i.e thyroiditis aka Hashimoto disease), as you look healthy to be suffering from primary hypothyroidism.

You have a make over? Regardless, you look beautiful and the curls contribute even more to your natural beauty. Congrats!

Roy
Hi dagydoodle,

Since I already posted in this thread and seen in your sig that you are hypothyroid, I would like to know if you are under the mainstream line of medication with levothyroxine or if you have looked at other alternatives (T3/T4 or Armour). I had a quick look at your pics as I was curious as to how your eyebrows would look since you mention you pluck them a lot and they seem perfectly fine. One of the symptons of hypothyroidism is "balding" in the third external sector of the eyebrows, which you dont seem to have, so I am assuming you are on the right medication.

If you rather reply via PM instead of publicly, feel free.

Roy

P.D Nice curls
Originally Posted by Roy_Boy
hey roy,

on levoxyl, been on it since becoming hypo, maybe 3 or 4 years ago. not into dabbling with others, tried cytomel several months ago and i ended up going hyper. so even though it's been a work in progress trying to get the perfect balance of tsh, i'm all set with experimenting for a while. thyroid problems yourself? doctor?

ha HA, my permanent makeup fooled you!

love your hair, that style looks great on you!
Originally Posted by dagidoodle
Well, cytomel only will cause TSH to plummet but T4 levels will stay low. You need both T3 and T4 in range. Levoxyl (levothyroxine) alone does not work for everyone and depending on the dose, it may create more problems than solutions. There's some issues with levothryoxine only medicating due to inefficient conversion of T4 to T3 but I would be winding you up if I wrote the rationale.

Care to give your doses of levoxyl as well as the ones of cytomel when you ran the trial? Cytomel-only is not issued by doctors easily so did you try it yourself via self-medicating? Your body produces about 88-100mcgs of T4 and 10-15mcgs of T3 per day, depending on bodyweight and energy demands, so cytomel, which comes in varying doses, can easily turn you hyper if overdosed slightly (not so much T4 as the body converts T4 to T3 peripherically as needed).

As I say, post your doses and thyroid panel results (especifically TSH, free T3 (if it was tested), free or total T4 (which should have been tested) as well as thyroid antibody titers. I am assuming you suffer from autoinmune disease (i.e thyroiditis aka Hashimoto disease), as you look healthy to be suffering from primary hypothyroidism.

You have a make over? Regardless, you look beautiful and the curls contribute even more to your natural beauty. Congrats!

Roy
Originally Posted by Roy_Boy
well, just some makeup on the ol' brows. i don't know if that would be considered a makeover. but thank you for the compliment..

ugh, not so into getting into all of my thyroid panels at the moment, i have stacks of lab results in my filing cabinet. what i can tell you is that i am seeing a top doc in endocrinology, who is willing to experiment with whatever needed. so it was under her care that i tried the cytomel. don't remember the doses. too tired to look. levoxyl is currently at 75 mcg per day, with 2 extra pills a week. all thyroid levels are finally stable again, and always get tested for tsh, ft3 and ft4. never been diagnosed with hashimoto or anything like that.

sooooo.. what's the deal? what's with the expertise?

goin to bed, nighty.
http://public.fotki.com/dagidoodle/
password: dagi

hypothyroid
3a & 3b
fine, normal, coarse
normal & porous(?)
protein sensitive(?)
the bane of my existence

on a mission to find my hg's.
Banned
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 156

hey roy,

on levoxyl, been on it since becoming hypo, maybe 3 or 4 years ago. not into dabbling with others, tried cytomel several months ago and i ended up going hyper. so even though it's been a work in progress trying to get the perfect balance of tsh, i'm all set with experimenting for a while. thyroid problems yourself? doctor?

ha HA, my permanent makeup fooled you!

love your hair, that style looks great on you!
Originally Posted by dagidoodle
Well, cytomel only will cause TSH to plummet but T4 levels will stay low. You need both T3 and T4 in range. Levoxyl (levothyroxine) alone does not work for everyone and depending on the dose, it may create more problems than solutions. There's some issues with levothryoxine only medicating due to inefficient conversion of T4 to T3 but I would be winding you up if I wrote the rationale.

Care to give your doses of levoxyl as well as the ones of cytomel when you ran the trial? Cytomel-only is not issued by doctors easily so did you try it yourself via self-medicating? Your body produces about 88-100mcgs of T4 and 10-15mcgs of T3 per day, depending on bodyweight and energy demands, so cytomel, which comes in varying doses, can easily turn you hyper if overdosed slightly (not so much T4 as the body converts T4 to T3 peripherically as needed).

As I say, post your doses and thyroid panel results (especifically TSH, free T3 (if it was tested), free or total T4 (which should have been tested) as well as thyroid antibody titers. I am assuming you suffer from autoinmune disease (i.e thyroiditis aka Hashimoto disease), as you look healthy to be suffering from primary hypothyroidism.

You have a make over? Regardless, you look beautiful and the curls contribute even more to your natural beauty. Congrats!

Roy
Originally Posted by Roy_Boy
well, just some makeup on the ol' brows. i don't know if that would be considered a makeover. but thank you for the compliment..

ugh, not so into getting into all of my thyroid panels at the moment, i have stacks of lab results in my filing cabinet. what i can tell you is that i am seeing a top doc in endocrinology, who is willing to experiment with whatever needed. so it was under her care that i tried the cytomel. don't remember the doses. too tired to look. levoxyl is currently at 75 mcg per day, with 2 extra pills a week. all thyroid levels are finally stable again, and always get tested for tsh, ft3 and ft4. never been diagnosed with hashimoto or anything like that.

sooooo.. what's the deal? what's with the expertise?

goin to bed, nighty.
Originally Posted by dagidoodle
Good to know your endo has an open mind. What's more important, are you feeling good on your current medication? If so, then no need to change anything. If you are not feeling good, there are other options which would be great to discuss with your endo.

You have not been diagnosed with thyroiditis? so what is your hypothyroidism stemming from? TSH resistance? reverse T3? Adrenal issues?

With regards to expertise, well, let's leave it at I like reading a lot and I take classes.

Sweet dreams.
Hi,

I've been browsing through the site for a few weeks now and came upon this thread by accident. I too pull my hair but like generosityt I pull it because of the texture. And now that I've gone curly again, I find myself constantly twirling my hair. So much so that after the day is done my curls look like a big messy frizz ball.

There are times when I just run my fingers through my hair so much that it breaks off in clumps. So I don't pull it out at the roots but have broken hairs and fly aways all the time. Last Jan I cut my hair chin length because I was tired of pulling on it, constantly giving myself headaches and making my scalp super sensitive. But now that I found this site I'm really hoping I start treating my hair better. Although it's a bit confusing, little by little I'm getting the hang of it. I'm still trying to figure out what products work best for me.
Hevnleee 3a/3b
Oh! This post is really interesting for me. Recently, I've noticed that I'm getting a much bigger urge to pull out my hair. I've never done it before, but I've always been really obsessed with my hair. Like, since I'm 3. I guess because it's always brought me so much attention. Ever since I was a baby, when I meet someone for the first time, the first thing they'll say is "I love your hair." I'm always playing with my hair (and other people are too). I dunno. But everytime I feel my fingers tugging at my hair, I immediatly stop. I don't want to start trich!
Ca m'a fait de la pé-peine!
I have trich too! Don't worry, everybody eventually grows out of it. But I know what you mean with the kinky hairs. I usually pull out the coarse hairs, I have curly hair as well. Things that help for the hole, pulling at night thing;
-Put a headband on when you go to bed, it'll cover up the top so by the time you fall asleep, your hair is still in tact
-Put notes on your mirror that say things like, 'Don't Pull!', 'You can do it!', and 'You ARE beautiful!'
-this one's weird, burn the hair you pull, get rid of it. Don't let yourself see anything that can remind you of pulling that won't help you stop
Hope this helps!
I have this too, but it's mostly my eyebrows. I didn't think there'd be so many people on this forum who had it!

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