Shampoo Bars and the porous curly

Any porous curlies out there have long term success with poo bars?

I started using shampoo bars about two weeks ago and my hair absolutely loves them. I do have a water softener and I do follow with a weak acv rinse.

About one week ago I started doing research on poo bars and it sounds like using them is not good news for porous curlies. I would really hate to lose my length due to any possible damage, it's taken me sooo long to grow!

Any thoughts?
dense, very fine, high porosity, poor elasticity
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No heat styling


Wow, that's interesting knowledge. I have been using a shampoo bar for over 6 months with no problems. I have normal to high porosity, but I do ACV rinses.
BC: 9/28/10 (2.5-3 inches)
Hair type: Type 3c/4a fine/medium


I too use shampoo bars pretty regularly and have not had a problem. I used to do ACV rinses and do them now, sometimes, but not every time I use a 'poo bar. At the moment, I am using Auromere's Tulsi-Neem soap bar for shampoo (my scalp needs the herbal treatment badly) and have not felt that need for the rinse like I have with other bars.

I am highly porous, I color my hair with high lift color regularly.
4a/3c curls
Fine strands, not as densely-placed as I would like
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Thank you for both of your replies.

I've never heard of Auromere soap before, I'm going to go look that up now.

Alas, I think I am done with my shampoo bars for now. Hopefully, I can revisit them when my hair is in better shape. They seem to leave my hair dull-looking. Maybe I need to up my acv ratio.

Also, I have noticed a ton more halo frizz. Is it new growth or breakage? Can't tell. If it is breakage, I guess it could be from plopping, I think I started doing that about the same time I started using the poo bars. My hair is so fine and fragile!
dense, very fine, high porosity, poor elasticity
Loves Protein
No heat styling


I used to use shampoo bars in the past, but didn't know that I needed an ACV rinse afterward. As a result, my hair was very dry and tangled. I did DC afterward, but I didn't like the way my hair felt after I shampooed with the soap.
Mod CG-Naturally Highly Porous and Dry
This list is not exhaustive...
Winter Regimen
Cowash: HE The Sleeker The Butter
Shampoo/Clarifier:various
PT:Not for a while...
DT:
Smooth Sexy Hair Sulfate-Free Smoothing Conditioner
LI/Detangler: It's a 10!, CURLS Cashmere Curls leave-in
Spritz: Nu-Gro Moisturizing Spray
Stylers: CHS Extenzz
Sealers: Tamanu oil

*experimenting and loving it!


Thank you for both of your replies.

I've never heard of Auromere soap before, I'm going to go look that up now.

Alas, I think I am done with my shampoo bars for now. Hopefully, I can revisit them when my hair is in better shape. They seem to leave my hair dull-looking. Maybe I need to up my acv ratio.

Also, I have noticed a ton more halo frizz. Is it new growth or breakage? Can't tell. If it is breakage, I guess it could be from plopping, I think I started doing that about the same time I started using the poo bars. My hair is so fine and fragile!
Originally Posted by dernhelm
Yes, do revisit them if you get the urge. Also, please remember that your hair will respond differently to some bars than others. I had the dull-looking thing happen with one brand of shampoo bars (all of their bars) and I only tried the Auromere bars because I was traveling and my products were damaged in transit. I had previously sworn off bars but was staying in a hotel owned by people who provided some ayurvedic bars and I loved them. They had the same ingredients as the Auromere bars, plus the Auromere bars had the ingredients to keep my scalp healthy.

I swear being curly is a dang hit-or-miss with the products.
4a/3c curls
Fine strands, not as densely-placed as I would like
Ayurvedic herbs are the TRUTH
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Yes, do revisit them if you get the urge. Also, please remember that your hair will respond differently to some bars than others. I had the dull-looking thing happen with one brand of shampoo bars (all of their bars) and I only tried the Auromere bars because I was traveling and my products were damaged in transit. I had previously sworn off bars but was staying in a hotel owned by people who provided some ayurvedic bars and I loved them. They had the same ingredients as the Auromere bars, plus the Auromere bars had the ingredients to keep my scalp healthy.

I swear being curly is a dang hit-or-miss with the products.
Originally Posted by sagehen
+1. I had a horrible experience with the Chagrin Valley bars that are well loved around here. It was the castor oil. If I hadn't used a bar with great success prior to that experience, I would never have tried another. I'm picky about the ingredients, too. That's the way you should be with all of your products, LOL!
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
i used them for some months.. i had no issues with them but I did an acv rinse everytime. I looove the chagrin valley ayurvedic & herb garden bars! The acv got rid of the tangled waxy feeling and always left me with soft hair. I still have them and will use them up eventually i just got tired of having to lather them. It was time consuming for me to wash with them..
dense, fine & porous curls |

Poo/Cowash| Bobeam, V05 Shea Cashmere
DC| AOGPB, CJ Repair Me, BrownButterBeauty
RinseOut| Mill Creek Keratin Conditioner, Ology Moisturizing Conditioner
Leave In| Curl Rehab, Bee Mine Luscious Balanced Moisturizer, CJ Smoothing Lotion
Moisturize|Oyin Hair Dew, CR Moisture Milk
Gel| Kiss My Face UMG, Trader Joes Aloe Vera, KCCC
Sealants| Aloe Juice, Whipped Shea, Cocoa & Mango Butters, Castor, & my Peanut Oil Blend =)

+1. I had a horrible experience with the Chagrin Valley bars that are well loved around here. It was the castor oil. If I hadn't used a bar with great success prior to that experience, I would never have tried another. I'm picky about the ingredients, too. That's the way you should be with all of your products, LOL!
Originally Posted by kathymack
Now, see, I was not trying to name names LOL!

i used them for some months.. i had no issues with them but I did an acv rinse everytime. I looove the chagrin valley ayurvedic & herb garden bars! The acv got rid of the tangled waxy feeling and always left me with soft hair. I still have them and will use them up eventually i just got tired of having to lather them. It was time consuming for me to wash with them..
Originally Posted by Reeky
This is my only issue with shampoo bars. If I am in a super hurry I sometimes end up cowashing because it IS time-consuming to lather up a shampoo bar all over my scalp. Also, perhaps I should have rinsed with ACV all the time, but I am not organized enought to do that and I had read in several places that after awhile you shouldn't have to, so in the interest of saving a step I chose to believe that. I have not needed to do that with the Auromere bars, so I think that is the reason I stick with them.

I just multi-quoted! Yay!
4a/3c curls
Fine strands, not as densely-placed as I would like
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I used Kathymacks soap bars :P I've been using them for a year now, but I do alternate between co-washing and soap bars. I've only recently started doing ACV.

My hair likes them very much.
CG Since 2010
Hair Attributes: Mixed 2 with 3A undergrowth & no root curl.
Fine, Thin, Easily Manipulated, Easily Styled, Easy to Frizz, and Easy to damage.

Favorites: CJ Daily Fix, CJ Rehab, Anything Spiral Solutions, Darcy Botanicals Pumpkin Seed

New Goals To restore my hair after dying it twice in two weeks. Learning more about products found in the stores to fit my tight budget. I'm still working on trying to grow out my hair.
Hmm, Iíll have to research what the deal is with highporosity hair and poo bars mentioned in the OP, since I am heavily colored.

I bought a few products to try at the holiday sales and a poo bar was one of them. The outcome was fine Ė didnít notice a big difference with or without using it but like mentioned above, it took forever to wash my hair. I think 15 minutes total. I have very dense hair and I had to go section by section to get my entire head cleaned. Too much time to use on a regular basis. The one big benefit was an incredibly clean scalp. I used the Bo Beam cheris hibiscus bar that has some grainy aspects to it so it was a bit of an exfoliation. I donít think my scalp has been this squeaky clean since elementary school. So I will pull it out a few times year just for that benefit!
High Density, High Porosity, Medium Texture, 3B with some kink

DT: SS DDMT - HG
Lo-Poo: No Preference
Co-wash: CJ Smoothing Conditioner
RO: CJ Strengthening Conditioner - HG
LI: CK Satin Roots
Styler: CK Coil Jam
Other Likes: Castor Oil; CK Twist Whip, MD CSC
Dislikes: Wheat Protein; Aloe LIs or Stylers

My hair doesn't like shampoo bars, the ph is way too high for my already porous and delicate color treated hair. I know your supposed to do an acv rinse after, but even that didn't help much, and besides, I kind of feel like, what's the point of using such an alkaline product if your just going to have a use an acidic product to neutralize it? Why not just stick with a one step, gentle cleanser that never exposes your hair to a harsh ph level? They all left my hair feeling coated in residue too, they're just not good news for my hair.
3a
medium/thick
Loves protein and oils

Low-poo: MopTop gentle shampoo
Co-wash: CJDF, Jessicurl Aloeba
RO: Jessicurl Too Shea, MopTop daily conditioner, CJ rehab, CJ strengthening
LI: ^^^
DT: Jessicurl WDT, SS Deeply Decadent
PT: SS protein treatment, Ouidad 12 min
Oils: argan, sweet almond, jessicurl oil blend
Stylers: SS firm hold, SS curl enhancing jelly, Kiss My Face Upper Management gel, AG Recoil
I'm curious... what's the benefit of shampooing w/ soap bars over a low-poo?
why don't you do a co-wash instead of poo bars?
highlighted 3a hair. Fine strands, medium to high density. Probably high porosity. Growing uit bad layering and aiming for waist lenght!

Pre-poo: coconut oil
wash: CJ Daily fix or SheaMoisture Coconut&Hibiscus
RO + LI: different every time
Styler: CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB

dislikes: glycerin in low dews, scissor happy stylists, magnesium sulfate

(modified) CG since june 25, 2012
Hiarfinity + extra MSM since March 5., 2014

SL - APL - BSBL- BSL - MBL - WL (stretched)
I'm curious... what's the benefit of shampooing w/ soap bars over a low-poo?
Originally Posted by PomegranateCurl
For me, soap bars are much gentler than lowpoo. Natural bars that are saponified oils don't contain surfactants.

why don't you do a co-wash instead of poo bars?
Originally Posted by etos
I cowashed for six months. Didn't do much for me. I started using soap bars to cleanse when they were really popular on nc.com almost five years ago. I felt that they tighten curls and increase volume.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
For me, soap bars are much gentler than lowpoo. Natural bars that are saponified oils don't contain surfactants.

why don't you do a co-wash instead of poo bars?
Originally Posted by etos
I cowashed for six months. Didn't do much for me. I started using soap bars to cleanse when they were really popular on nc.com almost five years ago. I felt that they tighten curls and increase volume.
Originally Posted by kathymack
I can see how that *might* be beneficial for someone with low porosity like yourself, t might be a good thing to prevent build up and open the cuticle slightly to allow ingredients to enter. Is there any research backing up any benefits for the rest of us? 'Curl Chemist' Tonya McKay does not advocate them.

"Another very important ingredient to avoid for long, curly hair especially is soaps. In the past, I have written an article cautioning users of soap to be careful, but basically concluding that it was probably okay to use soaps with an acidic rinse and lots of moisturizing agents. Based on the following information obtained from the research of Dr. Ali Syed (a hair care researcher who specializes in African and curly hair), I cannot in good conscience advocate use of any soap products on curly hair.

Soap molecules are salts of fatty acids found in plants and animal fats. They are somewhat alkaline and cause the hair to swell and the cuticle to raise up away from the surface of the hair shaft. These molecules are then able to penetrate through the cuticle and into the CMC where they neutralize the fatty acids in the lipid layer, rendering them water soluble. The fatty acids are then rinsed away in the shower and are gone forever. Use of soap to cleanse one’s hair, especially long curly hair, seems to be a really effective way of permanently destroying the cuticle layer and making the hair very highly porous. This is an example of why natural may not always be superior. It is no surprise that researchers have invested years and many millions (billions) of dollars to develop more gentle cleansers for our hair.
"
Porosity and Curly Hair

Plus you cannot repair a destroyed acid mantle on the scalp with a dilute vinegar rinse.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect

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