Porous and Fine: Share your Hair Biography

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This thread is for Porous and Fine wavies and curlies to share information about their hair and hopefully learn from each other. I've posted the template and you can copy and paste it in to your reply to fill it out. When you have things to add or change you can just edit your post. The intention of these threads is for everyone to share their knowledge about their hair, even you don't know everything about it yet. I would expect most people to leave at least some questions blank. When you know more, you can come back and update your post.

If you are porous and coarse, post to this thread.
Porous and Coarse: Share your Hair Biography
If you are porous and medium textured, post to this thread.
Porous and Medium Texture: Share your Hair Biography

Here are some links to help you figure out your hair properties.

Live Curly Live Free - Curly Hair Basics
How to type hair using the Fia system | eHow.com
What hair elasticity is and how to measure elasticity or hair stretch
Welcome to Weather Underground : Weather Underground
If there is anything else you think I should add or helpful links you think could add to learning about hair properties feel free to PM me and I can edit the chart.



Curl Pattern:
2a, 3c,4b, etc.
Density: thin, medium, thick
Elasticity: low, normal, high
Characteristics: flat top/no root curl, easily weighed down, lots of shrinkage, etc.

CG/ModCG/not CG: If modified, state how you modified the method.
Hard water or soft water:
Average climate/dew points:

Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often?
How long?
10 mintutes, 1 hour, etc.
PT with heat or steam?
Favorite PTs:
Favorite products that contain protein? Conditioners, leave-ins, styling products, etc.
Proteins your hair likes?
Wheat protein, collagen, keratin protein, etc.
Proteins your hair dislikes?

Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often?
How long?
15 minutes, 1 hour, etc.
DT with heat or steam?
Favorite DTs:
Favorite products to moisturize your hair:
Conditioners, leave in conditioners, styling products, etc.
Ingredient likes: behentrimonium methosulfate, glycerin, jojoba oil, etc.
Ingredient dislikes: shea butter, oils, cetrimonium chloride, etc.
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal?

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points?

Low dew point combos:
Normal dew point combos:
High dew point combos:

HG/Go-to Products: up to 5 products that are constantly in your rotation

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair?
Spritz and condish, prewash treatments, sealing, etc.
curlypearl likes this.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers

Last edited by pedaheh; 02-12-2011 at 10:22 AM.
Curl Pattern: 2b
Density: thin
Elasticity: low
Characteristics: Never grown past shoulders,hard to weigh down,very easy to straighten, hard to encourage curls, dry

CG/ModCG/not CG: Modified CG I low poo once a week in summer and twice month in winter
Hard water or soft water: Hard
Average climate/dew points: Normal dews in summer, low to very low in winter

Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often? If I'm using IAgirl's gelatin PT, I PT every 2 weeks. With other PTs it was once/week.
How long? Up to 1 hour. At least 20 minutes.
PT with heat or steam? Sometimes I sit under a hard hat dryer. When I use the hard hat dryer, I PT for about 20 minutes.
Favorite PTs: IAgirl's gelatin PT (has hydrolized collogen) is my favorite. I also like Ion Effective Hair care.
Favorite products that contain protein? Ecostyler Krystal, small amount of Ion effective care mixed in my rinse out conditioner
Proteins your hair likes? I haven't met a protein my hair doesn't like. My hair especially likes Hydrolized Collogen. It adds strength, elasticity, and shine to my hair.
Proteins your hair dislikes? None yet.

Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often? I DT after every PT. So, every week or 2 (depending on which PT I'm using).
How long? Usually 5-15 minutes. I will leave it on longer if there are penetrating oils in the DT.
DT with heat or steam? I sometimes sit under my hard hat dryer. It depends on my mood. I'm still experimenting with this.
Favorite DTs: I use some of my rinse out (usually renpure (red one) or GFTN) mixed 50/50 with warm honey
Favorite products to moisturize your hair: Renpure conditioner (red one) or GFTN mixed 50/50 with honey, coconut oil
Ingredient likes: behentrimonium methosulfate, glycerin (normal dews)
Ingredient dislikes: shea butter, jojoba oil, aloe, PEG castor oil, epsom salt
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal? I cannot seal. Everything I've tried to seal with causes frizz and makes my hair oily.

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points?
I avoid glycerin in high and low dew points. I only need to avoid it in things that are left on my hair like styling products and leave-ins. I like glycerin in normal dew points.

Low dew point combos:
Renpure (red) as leave in, FSG, BRHG
Normal dew point combos: Renpure (red) as leave in, FSG/ecostyler krystal mix, BRHG
High dew point combos: I have no idea what to do in high dews. My hair is a hot mess.
HG/Go-to Products: Coconut oil, honey, BRHG, ecostyler,

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair?
Spritz and condish method, overnight coconut oil prewash treatments, mixing honey with conditioner, using a humidifier in winter
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers

Last edited by pedaheh; 02-11-2011 at 04:05 PM.

Curl Pattern:
Mostly 3b, with a little 3c and a teeny bit of 3a.
Density: medium.
Elasticity: lnormal to low.
Characteristics: flat top/no root curl (well, very little), loads 'o shrinkage, very little volume (I like to call it 'clumptastic').

CG/ModCG/not CG: CG in general. I shampoo probably once every two weeks. (see below)
Hard water or soft water:: super hard, thus (comparatively) frequent shampooing.
Average climate/dew points: In the winter, 30-45 temp (30-45 dew), in summer 60-85 temp (dew 40-60).

Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often? How long? I do, roughly once every week and a half or so, usually for about 15-30 minutes (depending on the PT)
PT with heat or steam? Just in the shower, so with a little steam, I guess.
Favorite PTs: CJ Curl Fix.
Favorite products that contain protein? Curl Junkie Curl Fix, CCCC, Fuzzy Duck conditioner, MopTop conditioner, CJ Repair Me.
Proteins your hair likes?[/B] Wheat, corn, soy, silk.
Proteins your hair dislikes? It has issues with keratin for some reason.

Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often? How long? I normally do about once a week on top of when I follow a PT with a DT (works out to about once every 5 or 6 days). Anywhere between five minutes to an hour.
DT with heat or steam? With body heat - I generally wrap my head in saran wrap and leave it there (ideally while I'm doing something that warms me up).
Favorite DTs: Jessicurl Weekly Deep Treatment, CJ Curl Rehab
Favorite products to moisturize your hair: Little outside of my DTs - just general conditioners (in my sig).
Ingredient likes: behentrimonium methosulfate, coconut oil/avocado oil, shea butter, glycerin
Ingredient dislikes: jojoba oil, aloe (low dews)
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal? Nope. Hair likes to breathe.

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points? Not normally, and even then only in stylers. I only avoid aloe, and then only in lower dew points (and again, only in stylers - specifcally gel stylers).

Low dew point combos: Curl Rehab+CCCC+CIAB
Normal dew point combos:CCCC+CQ
High dew point combos: DBPSC+Crown Pride Lusicious Curl Creme

[/B]HG/Go-to Products: Curl Rehab, Daily Fix, CCCC, DBPSC

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair?
Plopping, definitely. Super soaker, sometimes, but generally I prefer to apply product to semi-dry hair. I like spritz-n-condish and then wrapping my head in saran wrap to add heat for DTs.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
This is so incomplete, I feel really bad posting it. But I figured, why not? I am still learning about my hair and I can always add to it when I learn more.

Curl Pattern: not sure...2b-3a, I think
Density: medium-thick
Elasticity: low
Characteristics: can be easily weighed down; very brittle, but not dry; seems to need obscene amount of protein, which I just discovered this month. I kept giving my hair moisture and more moisture, because curly hair needs moisture, right? Not mine, not now at least. I didn't understand how my hair could possibly be still so dry even after all the moisture I was giving it.

CG/ModCG/not CG: I swing between mod CG to not CG, currently not CG
Hard water or soft water: soft water (water softener)
Average climate/dew points: not sure, I live in Wisconsin, if that helps

Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often?
How long?
PT with heat or steam?
Favorite PTs:
Favorite products that contain protein? I try to make sure I have protein in all of my products
Proteins your hair likes? so far, all of them
Proteins your hair dislikes?

Moisture section: My hair is hating moisture at the moment, so I have backed off from all heavy moisturizing products
Do you DT? If so, how often?
How long?
DT with heat or steam?
Favorite DTs:
Favorite products to moisturize your hair:
Ingredient likes:
Ingredient dislikes:
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal? still experimenting with this one. So far seems a fail, though in theory sealing should work awesomely for my hair??

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points? I am trying to avoid humectants, I still need to do some reading up on them about when/if I should be using them. My hair has a tendency to blow up like a puffer fish, I am assuming this is d/t humectant usage, haven't figured out a pattern for that yet.

Low dew point combos:
Normal dew point combos:
High dew point combos:

HG/Go-to Products: GVP K-Pak, Tigi MM(though this one has been shelved for now)

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair? Coconut Oil prewash; when I remember, the spritz & condish; plopping; I wash every 2-3 days; ACV rinse

ETA: pedaheh, thanks for organizing this hair bio
dense, very fine, high porosity, poor elasticity
Loves Protein
No heat styling



Last edited by dernhelm; 02-12-2011 at 10:31 AM.
This is so incomplete, I feel really bad posting it. But I figured, why not? I am still learning about my hair and I can always add to it when I learn more.
Originally Posted by dernhelm
Doh! I knew I was forgetting something in the intro. I'll go change it now. But you have the exact right idea. The intention of these threads is for everyone to share their knowledge about their hair even if they don't know everything about it yet. I would expect most people to leave at least some questions blank. I did, and I came up with the questions.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
Curl Pattern: mostly 4a.
Density: thin to medium
Elasticity: normal
Characteristics: flat top, lots of shrinkage

CG/ModCG/not CG: not CG. I use products with some silicones, but most not high on the ingredients list
Hard water or soft water: medium
Average climate/dew points: varies with the season - winter low, summer high
Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often? no, but I use conditioners with proteins
How long? 10 mintutes, 1 hour, etc.
Favorite products that contain protein? Mop Top Deep conditioner, Abba Pure Gentle conditioner, Onesta Moisture Balancing Conditioner
Proteins your hair likes? it doesn't like soy protein or too much collagen and keratin. Protein should not be high on the ingredients list


Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often? Every 3-4 cowashes
How long? 10 minutes tops
DT with heat or steam? in the shower
Favorite DTs: Mop Top Deep Conditioner
Favorite products to moisturize your hair: depends o whether it's wet or dry: wet: conditioners plus any of these on ends - Qhemet OHHB, castor oil, shea butter or a mix of them
Ingredient likes: behentrimonium methosulfate, moringa oil, jojoba,

Ingredient dislikes: too much silicone

Do you avoid humectants?
no, unless glycerine is very high up on the list in the winter. Dries my hair up.
HG/Go-to Products: GVP Matrix Conditioning Balm, Onesta Moisture Balancing conditioner, Qhemet OHHB, Devacurl Set It Free, KCCC, CJ CIAB, Abba Pure Gentle, All Nutrient ClarpHX clarifying shampoo

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair?
Layering products
My blog - http://suburbanbushbabe.wordpress.com/
My FOTKI - http://whatsnew.fotki.com/suburbanbushbabe/


Playing with my hair is a hobby. Fluffy, fine natural 4a. Goal= Healthy, beautiful hair that retains its length.
Quote:
Hear that crash? It's me falling off the CG wagon.
Curl Pattern: 2a here, 2C Fia with some 3A tendancies depending on what I use
Density: thick
Elasticity: low
Characteristics: easily weighed down, flat top, less wurly back and canopy

CG/ModCG/not CG: I mostly CO, with the occasional low poo and probably once a month or two do a sulfate start over.
Hard water or soft water: UGH HARD
Average climate/dew points: Varies with the seasons

Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often? Yep. My hair eats it for breakfast. Usually at least once a week, though I'm finding that in the heat of summer my hair wants more protein than moisture and it's the OPPOSITE in winter, and it wants more moisture than protein.
How long? anywhere from 20 mins to 2 hours depending on what I'm using.
PT with heat or steam? No but I do put a cap on to trap my body heat
Favorite PTs: SS RPT, CJCF, CJRM
Favorite products that contain protein? Cure care from Sallys (with the added benefit of no fragrance), Salon Care brand Honey Almond, CJCF, CJRM, SS RPT and Protein Spray as well as stylers, DBPC
Proteins your hair likes?
Any and all. It's really not picky at all. Oddly Enough.
Proteins your hair dislikes? None

Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often? Yes. Anytime I do a PT I follow with moisture, and sometimes I do just a DT instead. At least once a week.
How long? Anywhere from 20 mins. to 2 hours, rarely overnight.
DT with heat or steam? No but I use the cap again.
Favorite DTs: SS DD, AOHR, Deva HIH, Inceto Coconut
Favorite products to moisturize your hair: See Above
Ingredient likes: behentrimonium methosulfate, Coconut oil, argan oil, camellia oil, most anything naturally based like that for the most part that I'm not allergic to
Ingredient dislikes: GLYCERIN (and other humectants), Mag Sulfate, Lavendar, some citrus oils, Castor oil, most fragrances
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal? Sometimes. Coconut oil, argan oil, camellia oil.

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points? HECK YA I AVOID THEM! My hair HATES them. Mostly I avoid Glycerin, though I'm trying to get away from Panthenol too. I avoid them at all dewpoints.

Low dew point combos: Any moisturizing condish as LI (I use more in winter), followed by an enhancer/styler like SS CEJ or UFDCM
Normal dew point combos: Same, with less or no LI
High dew point combos: No LI, same stylers, sometimes combined with harder holding gels

HG/Go-to Products: Any SS, DBPC, UFDCM, Sally Cure Care Condish, Varied natural oils like coconut, argan and camellia

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair?
No Plopping. No Spritz/condish, no prepoos. Clipping and diffusing after using a CLU towel to scrunch out most of the water.

Cosmetology Educator with sensitivities, eczema and Seborrheic Dermatitis.
Ingredients Maven
Products: Free and Clear sulfate free poo and condish, Theraneem Sulfate Free Shampoo/Condish, Unscented SSCEJ, Coconut oil, Camellia oil, Argan oil
Lady Karaan, High Priestess of Hayr Tretements in the Order of Curly Crusaders
Fotki updated 10/12/10 Password: wavy
Curl Pattern: 2cish (Fia's), but can appear anywhere from 2a-3a depending on the weather, products, and routine
Density: medium to thick
Elasticity: normal (I think)
Characteristics: very little root curl/limp at top, extremely fine and straighter at crown; never colored, dyed, or bleached (except for dabbling with Sun-In once or twice 15 years ago); multiple colors and textures throughout my head (individual strands range from blond and super fine to near black and coarse)

CG/ModCG/not CG: Modified CG. I low-poo occasionally, whenever my hair seems like it has build-up
Hard water or soft water: average, I think
Average climate/dew points: Varies. This winter has averaged under 20 (often single digits), spring and fall seems to be 20-50ish, summer is 40-70+
Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often? Yes, at least 1x per week, more in summer
How long? 10 mintutes.
PT with heat or steam? in the shower
Favorite PTs: Ion, K-Pak, or Giovanni Reconstructor
Favorite products that contain protein? Giovanni Smooth as Silk, K-Pak, Ion Repair
Proteins your hair likes?
keratin, wheat, silk
Proteins your hair dislikes? ?

Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often? yes
How long? depends
DT with heat or steam? not usually
Favorite DTs: still trying to find the best one for me
Favorite products to moisturize your hair: Also still working on this, as it seems to depend on the weather.
Ingredient likes: aloe, agave, jojoba
Ingredient dislikes: glycerin in winter
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal? nope

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points?
My hair generally loves humectants, but HATES them in winter. Glycerin flash dries my hair in low dews. Once the dews dip below 20, my hair starts reacting badly to KCCC and SS CEJ, so I have been avoiding aloe, honey, and agave, but I'm not actually sure what the culprit is.

Low dew point combos:
a heavy low humectant conditioner (still trying to find the right one)+FSG+Giovanni LA Natural Gel
Normal dew point combos: SS CEJ+FHG,
High dew point combos: BRHG or another hard hold gel over a light LI
HG/Go-to Products: I seem to have to change my rotation every season, and unfortunately nothing seems to work consistently for me. That being said, my go-to products are:

KCCC
BHRG
FSG
Giovanni Smooth-as-Silk Conditioner
Spiral Solutions CEJ and FHG
Giovanni LA gel

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair?
I super soak to get clumps, but wait until my hair is nearly dry to add my hold product
waves, loose coils, and cherub curls (=mixed 2s through 3a), very fine texture overall (but with medium and even coarse strands scattered throughout)

Last edited by Sbudsky; 03-29-2011 at 07:53 PM.
Curl Pattern: 2a-3a depending on the typing system, styling techniques, and products I use.
Density: on the thicker side of medium, I think
Elasticity: low to normal, I think
Characteristics: flat top/no root curl, easily weighed down

CG/ModCG/not CG: Modified, usually using a low poo periodically, but maybe a sulfate wash once a month
Hard water or soft water: softish I think
Average climate/dew points: Average climate in summer up to 30C/86F and in winter usually not lower than 0C/32F; dews, I'm not sure for average...dewpoint right now is 3C/36F, humidity 66%

Protein section:

Do you PT? If so how often? Yes, generally 2-4 times a month
How long? 10 mintutes, 1 hour, etc. it varies depending on schedule...I've done in the shower quickies and long 1 hour or longer ones.
PT with heat or steam? steam if in the shower for a quickie
Favorite PTs: SS RPT
Favorite products that contain protein? Conditioners, leave-ins, styling products, etc.
Proteins your hair likes? all I think...
Proteins your hair dislikes? haven't found anything so far I don't think

Moisture section:

Do you DT? If so, how often? Once or twice a month
How long? an hour or more if I have the time
DT with heat or steam? not usually...with steam if I'm doing a quickie
Favorite DTs: SS DDMT, sometimes I use the Curls For Target Coconut Curlada conditioner and leave on longer than normal for a lighter DT
[BF]avorite products to moisturize your hair:[/B] generally conditioners and DTs, though in winter I tend to use a little leave in more.
Ingredient likes: not sure
Ingredient dislikes: not sure
Do you seal? sorta...I use The Body Shop's Coconut Oil Hair Shine to SOTC...not sure if that counts

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points? Right now I'm trying to avoid glycerin...not sure if it is a winter thing or hair thing

Low dew point combos:
Normal dew point combos:
High dew point combos:


HG/Go-to Products: up to 5 products that are constantly in your rotation

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair?
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Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

Hair bio: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...5&postcount=59


Curl Pattern:
3a
Density: thin to medium
Elasticity: low to normal
Characteristics: some root curl, easily weighed down, little shrinkage

CG/ModCG/not CG: Mod CG
Hard water or soft water: soft water
Average climate/dew points:

Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often? Usually no protein.
How long?

PT with heat or steam?
Favorite PTs:
Favorite products that contain protein?
Proteins your hair likes?
soy
Proteins your hair dislikes? most proteins

Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often?
How long?
15 minutes, 1 hour, etc.
DT with heat or steam?
Favorite DTs:
Favorite products to moisturize your hair:
Natures Gate Asian Pear & Red Tea
Ingredient likes: jojoba oil, rose hip seed oil
Ingredient dislikes: shea butter, glycerin, mag. sulfate
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal? rose hip seed oil

Do you avoid humectants?
Yes If so, which humectants do you avoid? Glycerin Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points?
I don't pay any attention to dew points.

Low dew point combos:
Normal dew point combos:
High dew point combos:

HG/Go-to Products: up to 5 products that are constantly in your rotation

Natures Gate Asian Pear & Red Tea Shampoo
Natures Gate Asian Pear & Red Tea Conditioner
VO5 Mango Smoothie Moisture Milk Conditioner as co-wash
Proclaim Crystal Ice Gel with several drops of jojoba oil
Rose Hip Seed Oil

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair.
Usually oil hair with jojoba or macadamia nut oil before co-washing. Use rose hip seed oil after washing.
Willow Moon
3a, thin, fine, porous
Tresemme Radiant Volume for Co-Wash
Suave Mango Mandarin for Co-Wash
Rosehip Seed Oil 5 drops after Co-Wash
White Rain Hair Spray when hair is damp/dry
Curl Pattern: 2b, I'm pretty sure, though really it's probably a mix of a few of them.
Density: stylists always tell me I have "nice thick hair" but to me, it seems medium.
Elasticity: Um...normal? I'm really unsure about this one. The tests I've performed on stray pieces of hair have all given me different results.
Characteristics: No root curl, fairly easy to weigh down, only about a 1/2 inch to an inch of shrinkage, has a tendency to frizz and get really super curly if exposed for a while in cold weather (no amount of gel or conditioner has been able to help this! Argh!), easily straightened

CG/ModCG/not CG: Mod-CG. I use a low-poo a few times a week, depending on when I think I need it.
Hard water or soft water: Hard in my dorm building, but normal/soft at my parents' house.
Average climate/dew points: I'm unsure on the average dew points, but I know the climate in my college town is sort of dry. Well, dry for Oregon, haha. However, in my hometown, it's fairly wet.

Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often?
How long?
Yes I do. Generally it's around once a week. If I have time, I PT for an hour-ish, but when I don't have time, I just PT in the shower for as long as I can.
PT with heat or steam? Steam, I suppose, when I PT in the shower.
Favorite PTs: The only one I've ever used is Nexxus Emergencee, and it seems to work pretty well. I wouldn't mind trying others sometime, but I'm content for now.
Favorite products that contain protein? Um, I'll get back to you.
Proteins your hair likes?
See above.
Proteins your hair dislikes? See above above.

Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often? I've only ever tried with regular conditioner, left on under a showercap for an hour. Made my hair pretty soft...may have even OC'd me a little. So far I haven't really had much of a need for DTs.
How long?
DT with heat or steam?
Favorite DTs:
Favorite products to moisturize your hair:
Desert Essences Coconut seems to be working pretty well, and I love the consistency/smell.
Ingredient likes:
Ingredient dislikes: Too much shea butter tends to weigh me down. And coconut oil gets my hair reeeeeeally greased up, even if I just use a dab. Weird, right? Especially considering my conditioner has coconut oil and my hair like that just fine.
I haven't completely given up on coconut oil, though. If I can't find a way to use up the rest of it in my hair, then I guess I'll just have to cook up some killer stir-frys.
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal?

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points?
I sort of halfheartedly try to avoid them (glycerin, mostly) in winter/fall, but I keep managing to convince myself over and over that my hair will be fine if I use humectants in adverse conditions. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't, so the jury is still out on this one.
Low dew point combos:
Normal dew point combos:
High dew point combos:

HG/Go-to Products: Ehhhhhh I have some products that I like, but none are HG products, per se. My fall back tried-and-true gel, however, is HE Body Envy. Except that they discontinued it, so I'm gonna have to adapt to a new fallback pretty quick here...

I'm really really liking VO5 Calming Chamomile conditioner as a co-wash though!

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair?
Getting hair damp with my hands in the morning to "wake up" my curls, and sometimes adding a little more gel; finger combing in liberal amount of gel immediately after I wash my hair; diluting some of my low-poo in with conditioner when I use it.
Oregon curly!
Fine hair; weighed down easily; high porosity; prone to flyaways & The Bedhead Look
2b? (or not 2b? Heehee.)
Mod-CG since Nov '10
Cowash: VO5 Calming Chamomile
RO: Desert Essences Coconut
Gel: Pantene Curls Gel, LALSG
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Last edited by sleepyjess; 06-07-2011 at 08:44 PM.
Curl Pattern: 2b/3a depending on products used/ large waves at root, more length is making a tighter curl pattern. Whirly and the layering makes is moreso
Density: Medium
Elasticity: unsure
Characteristics: Fine, feather soft texture (it's got more texture since I started doing PT's)
CG/ModCG/not CG: The only modification from strictly CG is that I diffuse and use hairspray containing alcohol. It doesn't seem to be drying on my hair. Can't leave home without it!
Hard water or soft water: City/ soft
Average climate/dew points: Varies in Ohio - dry winters/ humid summers are not unusual

Protein section:

Do you PT? If so how often? weekly
How long? 10 mintutes, 1 hour, etc. 10-15mins
PT with heat or steam? neither, just wrap in turban
Favorite PTs: ION Effective Care and I love IAgirls gelatin treatment.
Favorite products that contain protein? LALooks curl gel/ AVG gel daily as a base
Conditioners, leave-ins, styling products, etc. - Fructis Sleek & Shine for a LI. Just started using GVP Conditioning Balm after low-poo and it's nice.
Proteins your hair likes? Seems to like any and all so far.
Proteins your hair dislikes? - So far my hair loves it all

Moisture section:


Do you DT? If so, how often? Not really DT, but I will leave a conditioner on just after low poo for a minute or two in the shower.
Ingredient likes: My hair doesn't have much trouble with glycerin (Fructis Pure Clean gel or LAL gels all have that ingredient). I like HESMU gel and it is glycerine free.
Ingredient dislikes: Still trying to figure that out. Haven't had much success with FSG.
Do you seal? - I am going to experiment with oils - most likely coconut...have concerns of weigh down, but am willing to give it a try.
Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points? I'm too inexperienced to know the answer to this one.
Low dew point combos:
Normal dew point combos:
High dew point combos:

HG/Go-to Products: BHRG over gels/ AVG under a stronger hold gel. CIAB over anything.
Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair? Supersoaker and applying products to soaking wet hair. Scrunch like crazy w/ tshirt and diffuse until 80%dry/ airdry for remainder. I like volume, so I pick out slightly and spray for definition. I know, many are gasping right now!!! I don't have a frizz issue, or I wouldn't touch it with a pick (ha)
2b/3a fine/med-hi density/high porosity (I think)/ highlight-no silicones/sulfates
Lo-poo - ABBA Gentle Shampoo/ Shea Moisture Curl & Shine
Conditioner: GVCB (love it!)/ Regis OO
Leave in
: As I Am
Co-Wash: Tresemme or DevaCurl NoPoo
Stylers: As I Am Curling Jelly/GF Pure Clean/ LALCurl gel - all with BRHG added
Style: scrunch/ diffuse, then air dry. I don't Have much frizz at all

Last edited by NocurlB4babies; 04-23-2012 at 07:55 AM.
Curl Pattern: 3a
Density: not sure of density, but gauge is very fine
Elasticity:
Characteristics: easily weighed down, not much volume (unless I go completely no CG), flat top that clipping does not help

CG/ModCG/not CG: mod CG-i use a shampoo bar
Hard water or soft water: hard
Average climate/dew points:

Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often? once every 6 months, but should do more often
How long? 5-10 mintutes
PT with heat or steam? while in shower
Favorite PTs: AI's recipe
Favorite products that contain protein? don't think I have any products that contain protein
Proteins your hair likes? seems to like them all
Proteins your hair dislikes? nope

Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often? yes, about once a year
How long? 1 hour
DT with heat or steam? no
Favorite DTs: don't have any favorites
Favorite products to moisturize your hair: suave conditioner, honey
Ingredient likes: honey and protein
Ingredient dislikes: oils
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal? just tried this for the first time, i used herbal essences "all that shine"

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points? no

Low dew point combos: i use the same products no matter the dew point
Normal dew point combos:
High dew point combos:

HG/Go-to Products: Suave conditioner, KBB milk, honey, ACV
Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair? argh...idk, my hair is well moisturized and healthy looking, but I have no idea how to style it so it looks neat, it just hangs in my face, so i always end up pulling it back, but could not live without plopping
Spritz and condish, prewash treatments, sealing, etc....nope
CurlyFireHorse
Hair: 2a or 3a (not sure), very porous and fine as frog hair
Day 1: Cowash and condition with AO GPB, ACV Rinse,
Co-Kra gel (this stuff is fantastic)

Day 2: KCKT, KCCC, plop, KCCC, plop again, air dry
Day 3: Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Coil Jam
Day 4: IAGirl's PT, KBB DT, FSG

Co-Kra gel is my own concoction of okra boiled in coconut milk. It is a cross between FSG and KCCC and leaves my hair very soft and shiny

Last edited by CurlyFireHorse; 01-13-2012 at 08:14 PM.
I thought for sure I'd done this, but maybe I was waiting for more information about my hair?

Curl Pattern: 2a/3a (nc.com), 2c/3aFi (Fia)
Density: thin
Elasticity: not sure yet
Characteristics: easily weighed down, lots of shrinkage (well, more than the stylists expect, anyway), short growing phase

CG/ModCG/not CG: Modified CG, with some discoveries that I missed a 'cone in an ingredient. I lo poo, rather than no poo.
Hard water or soft water: hard
Average climate/dew points: low (it's a desert out here!)

Protein section:
Do you PT? If so how often? Just started PT, so... once?: But I plan on doing it about once a month
How long? 30 minutes
PT with heat or steam? not really... some steam
Favorite PTs: SS RPT
Favorite products that contain protein? Nature's Gate Tea Tree conditioner seems to have a lot of protein. My hair goes through that really quickly.
Proteins your hair likes? Everything so far
Proteins your hair dislikes? Nothing that I know of, so far

Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often? Just started, so once, but plan on doing it after every PT
How long? 30 minutes
DT with heat or steam? no
Favorite DTs: SS deep treatment
Favorite products to moisturize your hair: Again, Nature's Gate Tea Tree conditioner seems to work for me.
Ingredient likes: shea butter (in very small amounts), argan oil (at least, it doesn't make me greasy)
Ingredient dislikes: can't stand coconut oil!
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal? No sealing

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points? Don't avoid humectants yet, but it's on my list of things to pay attention to.

Low dew point combos: We only have low dew points out here, even when it's raining Jessicurls and Spiral Solutions are what I use
Normal dew point combos:
High dew point combos:

HG/Go-to Products: John Masters Organics Sea Mist, BioSilk Rock Hard Gelee, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly, Jessiculs Rockin Ringlets

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair? Scrunch and pump all the way. (Plopping doesn't work for me at this time)

Hair: Very fine, normal porous (Finally! Yay!), normal elasticity, loves high dew points.
Daily: Nature's Gate Tea Tree shampoo, GVP CB, Cure Care conditioner, aloe vera gel, Jessicurls products, Spiral Solutions products.
Monthly: Henna
As needed: John Masters Organics Sea Mist
HG Product: BioSilk Rock Hard Gelee (aka BRHG. It even has HG in the name!)
Last perm: 12/10/10
CG since: 3/9/12
Last haircut: 4/17/12
Gossamer Fringe (my blog)

Curl Pattern:
2c/3a, some 3b underneath
Density: thick
Elasticity: normal
Characteristics: root curl and volume can be an issue. Curls tend to droop throughout the day.

CG/ModCG/not CG: Mod CG - I low poo as needed. Use some hairspray.
Hard water or soft water:
Hard water

Average climate/dew points: not sure... I live in the mid-west, so it ranges.

Protein section:
My hair LOVES protein.
PT? I do weekly PT's (sometime more), and I use a lot of products with protein.
As for how long I PT - usually about 5 mins, I guess. More occasionally. I like to plop during the long ones!
PT with heat or steam? heat
Favorite PTs:. AIgirl's gelatin, or CNPF mixed with Suave Nat coconut.
Favorite products that contain protein? Conditioners, leave-ins, styling products, etc. everything should be in my sig - but really anything with protein is good by me!
Proteins your hair likes?
Wheat protein, collagen, keratin protein, etc.
Proteins your hair dislikes? it's never met a protein it didn't like!

Moisture section:
Do you DT? If so, how often?
How long?
yes! I do a weekly DT after my PT's for at least 5mins, sometimes longer. Again I like to plop on the longer ones when possible.

DT with heat or steam?. Heat when possible.
Favorite DTs:
SM masque, GVPCB, adding some honey and EVOO and/or coconut oil to them for a DT.

Ingredient likes: protein!! Glycerin, magnesium sulphate, AV, oils.... I'm sure there's more, but nothing springs to mind!
Ingredient dislikes: nothing jumps out at me...
Do you seal? If so, what do you use to seal?
Yes - usually jojoba, or SM elixir

Do you avoid humectants? If so, which humectants do you avoid? Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points?
I like humectants, but in the winter I cut back slightly in my LI's or stylers.

HG/Go-to Products:
GVPCB, gelatin PT, my FSG, BSRG.... Probably more

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair?
Spritz and condish, pre-poo with oil or condish, sealing, PT/DT, scrunch and pump, mod supersoaker, plopping, air drying or diffusing, triangle net plopping.
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
Whoops! That should read "BRHG" under HG's, not "BSRG"!! (and I can't edit it from my phone!)
2c/3a/3b, Fine/med, Dense, high porous, & normal elas.

Lo-poo - Renpure Keratin, SMR, Giovanni SaS
clarifying - mix Johnson's H2T with low poo
Co-wash - Suave Nats. clar. or coco.
RO - GVPCB, Ion Eff. Care, TN.
LI - SMR, Cure Care, or RO
Seal - MO or Jojoba
DT - + honey, ACV, & EVOO to SM masque & GVPCB
PT - Gelatin!, CNPF
Styling - FSG, AIF, BRHG, LALS/PS, GF curl spray gel, SM Souffle/Smoothie, LOOB
Oils - MO!, EVOO, jojoba, GSO, SM Elixer, EVCO, VO5 Hairdressing
This might sound strange, but.. how do you know if you have fine hair?

CG since 3/11/2012

Type 2C (Botticelli according to Curly Girl: The Handbook)
iii Density
Medium-Coarse Texture
Normal Porosity
Normal Elasticity
HATES: Traditional sulfates/cones.
LOVES: Lots of moisture and homemade FSG!
(Many thanks to
http://www.livecurlylivefree.com/ for helping me figure out my texture, porosity, and elasticity properties! Check them out sometime!)
This might sound strange, but.. how do you know if you have fine hair?
Originally Posted by whirlyhair
Take just one strand of hair. If you hold it up to the light, is it almost invisible or hard to see? Compare you strand to other people (not related). Is a strand of hair from their head obviously thicker? Or is it thinner? When you get a stray hair caught in your eyelashes or on your hand, do you feel it more than see it?

Or, just get a hair analysis done
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Hair: Very fine, normal porous (Finally! Yay!), normal elasticity, loves high dew points.
Daily: Nature's Gate Tea Tree shampoo, GVP CB, Cure Care conditioner, aloe vera gel, Jessicurls products, Spiral Solutions products.
Monthly: Henna
As needed: John Masters Organics Sea Mist
HG Product: BioSilk Rock Hard Gelee (aka BRHG. It even has HG in the name!)
Last perm: 12/10/10
CG since: 3/9/12
Last haircut: 4/17/12
Gossamer Fringe (my blog)
Curl Pattern: 2b
Density: medium
Elasticity: normal
Characteristics: Impossible to straighten (humidity just causes too much frizz), weighed down easily, fine line between not enough product and too much, waves need lots of encouragement, protein-sensitive

CG/ModCG/not CG: modified CG- I use a low 'poo as needed (once a week or bi-weekly)
Hard water or soft water: hard
Average climate/dew points: hot and very humid; high dew points mostly year round

Protein section:
Do you PT? yes If so how often? once a month
How long? 10 minutes
PT with heat or steam? no
Favorite PTs: My hair seems to tolerate soy protein once in a blue moon, so I use Giovanni's Nutrafix Reconstructor about once a month.
Favorite products that contain protein? Giovanni's Nutrafix Reconstructor
Proteins your hair likes? soy and silk
Proteins your hair dislikes? wheat and collagen

Moisture section:
Do you DT? yes If so, how often? 3 times a week
How long? 5 minutes
DT with heat or steam? no
Favorite DTs: GVP CB
Favorite products to moisturize your hair: Tresseme Naturals Nourishing Conditioner, GVP CB
Ingredient likes: Grapeseed Oil
Ingredient dislikes: glycerin, alcohol
Do you seal? yes If so, what do you use to seal? I tried EVOO, but it was too heavy for my hair. The grapeseed oil works wonders for my hair!

Do you avoid humectants? I try, but it seems the only anti-humectants are silicones which I'm avoiding. If so, which humectants do you avoid? glycerin, aloe vera and panthenol at least, it seems impossible to avoid them all Do you avoid them at all dew points or only certain dew points? I avoid them in low and high dew points.

Low dew point combos: n/a
Normal dew point combos: n/a
High dew point combos: I'm still perfecting my routine, but so far this is what I use. Use GVP CB or TN as LI, seal with grapeseed oil, rake KCCC through hair, then scrunch and pump AIF with a dab of BRHG through hair.

HG/Go-to Products: Grapeseed oil, GVP CB

Name the methods, techniques, and tricks that work for your porous hair? Spritz and condish, pixie diffusing, SOTC, scrunch and pump
Fine 2b hair, medium density, high porosity, normal elasticity
High dew points every season except winter, but high humidity year-round
Modified CG since 5/26/12
Low 'poo: Nature's Gates Herbal Shampoo
CO wash: V05 Kiwi Squeeze Clarifying Conditioner
RO: GVP CB
DT: GVP CB
PT: ION EC twice a week; IA Girl's Gelatin PT once a week
Styler: Just 4 Us Naturals Spring Back Curling Custard, HETT gel, and Ecostyler Krystal
Methods: diffusing for volume, SOTC
HG Products: Just 4 Us CC, GVP CB

Last edited by ladybug8412; 07-18-2012 at 11:14 AM.
What a great thread! I'm bumping so I can do this on the computer later.

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