What do you use instead of a pomade or serum?

I find that if I use a pomade, serum (or oil) I can't do a successful conditioner wash, even though the pom. or serum is supposed to be water soluble. I've tried several including John Masters and KinkyCurly. Plain water or conditioner with water doesn't penetrate because the hair is "sealed." So using the pomade or serum makes the hair look good but the next day when I co-wash - yuck.

To give a slightly neater, more finished look, calm frizz or add shine, what do you use instead of a pomade, serum or oil? I also tried Donna Marie Moisture Mist which I didn't like either. I might try that again - or else I will have to use a lo-poo whenever I use any pomade or serum.

One product I'm meaning to try for this is LOOB. Anyone have ideas? Thanks for responses.
(cross-posted in general thread)
2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Protein sensitive
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers: Mix Curls in a Bottle into everything for shine. Terrible pj
Sometimes try roller sets - classic glamor but I prefer my curls.
Every day is a gift
I use an oil/water mixture to add shine-equal parts. One oil that I use undiluted is the Shima oil. I use about three medium size drops, spread on my hand first, then place on my hair. I don't know why the Shima oil works well undiluted, but in small amounts it does give me shine without the greasiness.
Mod CG-Naturally Highly Porous and Dry
This list is not exhaustive...
Pre-treat:various oils

Shampoo:
Schwarzkopf Gliss Kur Ultimate Oil Elixir
Clarifier:Malibu Hard Water Wellness Shampoo
PT: Gold Medal's Herbal Tame
DT:
Smooth Sexy Hair Sulfate-Free Smoothing Conditioner
LI/Detangler/
:Stylers: Lush Zeste Hair Gel, MJ Multicultural Curls

*experimenting and loving it!


I'm a huge fan of LOOB and it's on sale at Walgreens this week! Or maybe you could try some of your gel - after your hair is dry, rub your hands together with just a tiny bit of gel (you could even put just a drop of LI with it to prevent the crunchies) and ever so gently pat/rake it over your hair.

What do you use for co-washing? I rotate products and yesterday I used V05 Clarifying Conditioner Kiwi Lime Squeeze. It made my hair feel really clean and I use the water soluble cones.
2c/3a, fine, low-med porosity, below BSL, mod CG since 9/09

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Kasden and GreatCurls thanks a lot for answering! I cross-posted in general and nobody answered, so I was feeling there aren't any answers to my question.

Kas, I'm going to get the LOOB today.

For co-washing right now I'm rotate Curl Junkie Curl Rehab, Mop Top Daily Conditioner and L'oreal Silky Smooth. I actualy prefer the L'oreal - it gives me the most slip but it has the a-cone (amodimethicone) so I'm afraid to use it too often although I don't seem to have buildup.

Greatcurls, I never heard of Shima oil. Where do you get that? Do you find it washes out with a conditioner wash? That's my big problem.

Thanks again ladies. I'm having good hair days for the first time in my life, but if I use a serum or pomade on the 2nd day and then try to co-wash it's no good.
2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Protein sensitive
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers: Mix Curls in a Bottle into everything for shine. Terrible pj
Sometimes try roller sets - classic glamor but I prefer my curls.
Every day is a gift
Hi Curlypearl, I also have been a serum/pomade fan, which I personally used as a finishing product to tame any frizz/flyaways to my hair, but most of them contained 'cones, and the serum I have found in the UK which is 'cone free doesn't really have that 'oomph' factor to control my frizz. What I've tried today after washing my hair, which is working for me (so far, as the day is wearing on, and my hair is still looking pretty good), is, as Kasden said, a pea sized blob of my leave in conditioner which I smoothed over my locks once it was dry. It has calmed my frizzies considerably, so I am hopeful (at this moment in time!).......
UK Curly
Curl type : Boticelli, 3a, loose curls
Porosity : High
Texture : Fine/medium (I think!)
Co-wash/rinse out/leave in : L'oreal Full Restore 5, GFR&S, Schwarzkopf Bio Pomegranite
Gels : Umberto Giannini Flirty Curls Scrunching Jelly
Finish product : Boots Naked Style Frizz Fighter Serum or a pea-sized blob of condish smoothed over canopy
CG since Feb 2011
Proudcurlygirly - that sounds promising! I hadn't thought of that. I'll try it! Let us know how it holds up for you as the day progresses. Cheers!
2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Protein sensitive
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers: Mix Curls in a Bottle into everything for shine. Terrible pj
Sometimes try roller sets - classic glamor but I prefer my curls.
Every day is a gift
@curlypearl:

Here's the link for Shima hair products:

Order Shima Hair Products Here!

When I use it, I only use about 3 medium size drops, so it does easily wash out for me.
Mod CG-Naturally Highly Porous and Dry
This list is not exhaustive...
Pre-treat:various oils

Shampoo:
Schwarzkopf Gliss Kur Ultimate Oil Elixir
Clarifier:Malibu Hard Water Wellness Shampoo
PT: Gold Medal's Herbal Tame
DT:
Smooth Sexy Hair Sulfate-Free Smoothing Conditioner
LI/Detangler/
:Stylers: Lush Zeste Hair Gel, MJ Multicultural Curls

*experimenting and loving it!


I'm a huge fan of LOOB and it's on sale at Walgreens this week!
Originally Posted by kasden
I have to second the LOOB. I LOVE this stuff on dry hair. Today is muggy and warm, plus I was working up a sweat for 4 hours. My hair looks almost exactly the same as it did when I left the house this morning. This.never.happens. Or not in the summer, anyway. This time I used a bigger blob than normal (between a nickel and a quarter), spread it on my hands, and then lightly smoothed it over my canopy. You have to move quickly though before it gets too tacky and sticky.
2C/3A, fine, higher porosity.
Thanks for the link, GreatCurls. I will look into that. It might be better than LI which I am using now.

I was told by my local CVS that LOOB is no longer being made! Hmmmm.

Meanwhile, I am getting good results using ProudCurlyGirls method (tiny amount of leave-in - KCKT) after hair is dry.
2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Protein sensitive
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers: Mix Curls in a Bottle into everything for shine. Terrible pj
Sometimes try roller sets - classic glamor but I prefer my curls.
Every day is a gift
Yes, I'm still getting good results using a tiny drop of condish to smooth my hair Curlypearl. So far so good!
UK Curly
Curl type : Boticelli, 3a, loose curls
Porosity : High
Texture : Fine/medium (I think!)
Co-wash/rinse out/leave in : L'oreal Full Restore 5, GFR&S, Schwarzkopf Bio Pomegranite
Gels : Umberto Giannini Flirty Curls Scrunching Jelly
Finish product : Boots Naked Style Frizz Fighter Serum or a pea-sized blob of condish smoothed over canopy
CG since Feb 2011
Thanks for responding Proud. I've had a few bad hair days - I have to keep a hair journal to figure out what works best, but I'll remember that tip.

The LOOB seems to be discontinued! Eeeps!
2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Protein sensitive
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers: Mix Curls in a Bottle into everything for shine. Terrible pj
Sometimes try roller sets - classic glamor but I prefer my curls.
Every day is a gift

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